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  1. Warlock13579

    The Tier Allocation of Ultimate Kars

    Ok, thanks, I will ask one
  2. Warlock13579

    The Tier Allocation of Ultimate Kars

    How can I tell they are staff?
  3. Warlock13579

    The Tier Allocation of Ultimate Kars

    If that information is readily accessible just tell me where in the rules I can find it.
  4. Warlock13579

    The Tier Allocation of Ultimate Kars

    Seeing as I'm new, I would like to know what the requisites for this thread reaching a conclusion is.
  5. Warlock13579

    The Tier Allocation of Ultimate Kars

    I concur, this is a reasonable limitation
  6. Warlock13579

    The Tier Allocation of Ultimate Kars

    I agree with that at least, Kars cannot insta use spells because they are knowledge based although I would say he may just gain it offhand if in that universe he is given prep in a vs thread.
  7. Warlock13579

    The Tier Allocation of Ultimate Kars

    Again, black clover, magical skill is genetic, nothing says he cannot use it if the universes rules apply to kars
  8. Warlock13579

    The Tier Allocation of Ultimate Kars

    From that, if both verse rules are neutral, then anything hereditary may be gained by him and he may learn it if there is no explicit meta restriction
  9. Warlock13579

    The Tier Allocation of Ultimate Kars

    The above is especially true if you use the overlord example where magic skills are explicitly stated to be gained through genetic predisposition to the power
  10. Warlock13579

    The Tier Allocation of Ultimate Kars

    Also since cross verse neutral rules apply, those are genetic and biological rules in the verse in question, by that logic Kars can copy it as a skill creatures in that universe may gain.
  11. Warlock13579

    The Tier Allocation of Ultimate Kars

    Hamon does deal with soul/lifeforce and he copied that
  12. Warlock13579

    The Tier Allocation of Ultimate Kars

    Midichlorians have an inconsistent place in star wars canon, I have no idea
  13. Warlock13579

    The Tier Allocation of Ultimate Kars

    That said I said hypothetical because I don't know how the fate system works, I would have to defer to you on this one
  14. Warlock13579

    The Tier Allocation of Ultimate Kars

    No, I'm saying if he hypothetically copies genetics and it's hereditary, who says wether the system may recognize him as a family member or that he may gain all souls by extension? This is why Kars becomes a headache when you get to the idea of souls and why it has been a common inconclusive...
  15. Warlock13579

    The Tier Allocation of Ultimate Kars

    That is a hypothetical boundary but it depends on how that inheritance is allocated I guess
  16. Warlock13579

    The Tier Allocation of Ultimate Kars

    I'm not sure how divinity would work, for example in the Seven Deadly sins the gods are a race of creatures that happen to be more powerful than any others. On the other hand I would say that any beings that are outside the physical realm or are anomalies like Haruhi Suzimiya would be strictly...
  17. Warlock13579

    The Tier Allocation of Ultimate Kars

    I actually think in certain scenarios that things like magic can be argued on a case by case basis if it is naturally passed down in universe, an example would be the Overlord verse
  18. Warlock13579

    The Tier Allocation of Ultimate Kars

    Reviewing the videos I think that while it is related, the arguments used here are better applied here, so I changed my mind i won't use the videos.
  19. Warlock13579

    The Tier Allocation of Ultimate Kars

    And for the last time, I am new... may you please tell me if I can post links to the videos providing evidence to my point. I don't see why I shouldn't and I see nothing in the rules against it, I am just being careful.
  20. Warlock13579

    The Tier Allocation of Ultimate Kars

    Saying that we may assume for that universe 120% is the greatest multiplayer in such a hypothetical and as far as Kars May realistically go.
  21. Warlock13579

    The Tier Allocation of Ultimate Kars

    I see what your saying and while it would be limited by what it can copy I would say that it could most likely be over 120% because we don't know what the fittest being could theoretically extend an ability outside the JoJoverse, which may not be a NLF, but rather presents a calc and exact AP issue.
  22. Warlock13579

    The Tier Allocation of Ultimate Kars

    @DMB1 I get what your saying and I understand how what I mean can be misinterpreted, but composite human has to prep to make equipment, on the other hand I'm saying that Kars comes pre equipped to gain that equipment due to the specifics of his ability which on the other hand a composite human...
  23. Warlock13579

    The Tier Allocation of Ultimate Kars

    @Creaturemaster971 depending on what is decided, woulden't his genetic power mimicry as the fittest being upscale any power he copies making it a different than pure power mimicry?
  24. Warlock13579

    The Tier Allocation of Ultimate Kars

    Again, I wish to know If I can source the videos because they may provide better understanding and give more points than what is layed out.
  25. Warlock13579

    The Tier Allocation of Ultimate Kars

    Yes but by the standard battle system he should have the genetics of anything within other universes so it would apply to anything they can do as well
  26. Warlock13579

    The Tier Allocation of Ultimate Kars

    Don't know how to @ people but creaturemaker essentially said exactly what I mean, although I don't think it breaks NLF as long as it does not violate the rules of the other universe in him using such a hack.
  27. Warlock13579

    The Tier Allocation of Ultimate Kars

    Last thing, taking OPM as an example, anything considered a biological mutation at the cellular level may be able to be copied by ultimate Kars... so if a verse has a monster cell equivalent or something else that mutates, could he gain the abilities of any monster or other mutant, or is that...
  28. Warlock13579

    The Tier Allocation of Ultimate Kars

    The fittest thing is again due to adaptability, I don't know if I can get outside help by linking YouTube videos on this exact topic, which had prompted this thread when I had noticed many of the points I and the video brought up were not taken into account in many vs threads as I do not think...
  29. Warlock13579

    The Tier Allocation of Ultimate Kars

    I don't see why it shouldn't vary seeing how he gets superior Hamon automatically since he is the fittest creature, shouldn't he become the fittest in any universe. I mean, you can say power syetems require training... but so does Hamon and he just becomes the most powerful being because he has...
  30. Warlock13579

    The Tier Allocation of Ultimate Kars

    Correction, at the end of the thread I mean his tier should be dependent on who he is fighting if going by standard battle rules
  31. Warlock13579

    The Tier Allocation of Ultimate Kars

    This seems like a issue that has come up and settled before. However, I do believe that these are points that many miss in how he should be scaled to other universes. I am new and while I have read the rules somewhat throughly, I cannot figure out if these ideas can be supported depending upon...
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