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  1. RenamaticFury

    Lapis Flight Speed Upgrades

    That's not what I meant. I mean the second mods usually even say anything on these threads, they get backing usually. I don't need sarcastic remarks. I'm not attempting to detail either. Just focus on the upgrades and don't mention me again.
  2. RenamaticFury

    Lapis Flight Speed Upgrades

    Not even going to bother with this thread. It's quite clear that regardless of what I think or use to prove what I'm saying, the upgrade is going to go through either way.
  3. RenamaticFury

    Lapis Flight Speed Upgrades

    You must not be have read what is being discussed then because it's not that simple
  4. RenamaticFury

    Lapis Flight Speed Upgrades

    It's stated several times beyond just the one episode. I've literally given another link above to prove this. You have made and argument from ignorance clearly. You also dodged my mention on how it has been literally displayed how it works. You are cherry picking like the last person. Fallacy...
  5. RenamaticFury

    Lapis Flight Speed Upgrades

    >"Only" two MFTL+ feats. Lmao. Again, you're displaying that you are being close-minded. I get you may not accept the view, but you mocking what I'm saying literally doesn't help you get your point across of MFTL+ Lapis. This is off topic, but you get the point you literally aren't making a...
  6. RenamaticFury

    Lapis Flight Speed Upgrades

    That legit means nothing if we see Lapis do it twice compared to going over gem composition, display of what happens, and statements throughout the episode. Lapis' feat is literally just going from one location to another then back. They are practically the same feat in itself. The upgrade also...
  7. RenamaticFury

    Lapis Flight Speed Upgrades

    Except Lapis only has two MFTL+ feats which is literally just performing the same thing. They are literally stating they can't accelerate faster than what they are made of as it would mess up their composition. You are regurgitating points that have little to no validity for this discussion.
  8. RenamaticFury

    Lapis Flight Speed Upgrades

    Are you going to continue to make the same comparison? We've been over this. This is a simple instance of a writer forcing this maybe once but gets contradicted by MANY other feats. The case is very different from Lapis'.
  9. RenamaticFury

    Lapis Flight Speed Upgrades

    Incorrect. It's literally been stated in a minisode (mini episode) that gems are the physical manifestation of their gems. As they are legitimate light composed beings, it is outright implied they can't accelerate faster than what they are made out of (obviously being light). Again, it is...
  10. RenamaticFury

    Lapis Flight Speed Upgrades

    It's not just "one instance". It's a recurring thing brought up throughout the show. We only need that one confirmation scene to literally back up all of the statements. It's not 2 > 1 either. That's horrible logic. You are legitimately disregarding anything else that isn't that one scene. If...
  11. RenamaticFury

    Lapis Flight Speed Upgrades

    Except Kirby was never stated to have that as his limit, referenced several times, and consistently implemented throughout the entire series to the point we see actual displays of what happens when you attempt to test it out?
  12. RenamaticFury

    Lapis Flight Speed Upgrades

    I never said the feat itself was incorrect. Given the timeframe, it is indeed MFTL+ as a feat. I'm not debating that. I said we should treat it as an outlier as I even posted a video above on how it literally shows that gems can't perceive or accelerate at lightspeed as they weren't even...
  13. RenamaticFury

    Lapis Flight Speed Upgrades

    Are you mocking me? That doesn't get your point across whatsoever. Size only determines a tier in some cases. The logic of your comparison because it doesn't even correlate with what I am saying. Otherwise characters the size of average humans like Goku shouldn't be able to bust planets. I am...
  14. RenamaticFury

    Lapis Flight Speed Upgrades

    Again did you read my comment? They have actually been treated to not be able to go above lightspeed. It is not just a statement. We literally see this in action. That literally contradicts the entire premise of MFTL+ Lapis.
  15. RenamaticFury

    Lapis Flight Speed Upgrades

    You are ignoring the fact gems have literal been shown not to be able to even percieve lightspeed as they are just the gem as they can't withstand traveling at the speed. Author intent here and legitimate properties established in canon take priority over the feats because it goes against one of...
  16. RenamaticFury

    Lapis Flight Speed Upgrades

    You ignored most of my reasoning and hardly touched it. Legitimately, the point of her being tagged is if we're applying it by on planet standards. My reasoning still stands. My point was that it's pretty much the same feat. She went back and forth to the same two locations. It's not like a...
  17. RenamaticFury

    Lapis Flight Speed Upgrades

    Did you not read above? Characters have shown realistically they can tag Lapis during her Flight Speed. The feat is not the problem in the sense of what it clearly is. Reacting to Lapis' flight speed would logically scale to the other characters if we allow this. That literally would defy what...
  18. RenamaticFury

    Demigra Ability Revisions

    Prove it is wank other than making a statement with no foundation
  19. RenamaticFury

    Question

    Can Death Manipulation work on ghosts even though they're dead or no?
  20. RenamaticFury

    Question About High Universal and Universal+

    I've seen people say that destroying the Hyperbolic Time Chamber is only High Universal even though Vegeta's feat is affecting space-time. I'm not trying to upgrade Vegeta, but I am asking how do you determine what level the feat is? Space-time shouldn't be determined on what size the material...
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