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I'll wait for all the changes to be accepted to make them, then.
Makes sense.
This is good.
How's this?
Edit: The upload screwed with the pixelation around the edge of the render. I'll make a new one.
I guess this should be fine considering we have a literal statement.
This is good.
I'm just realising that both of those things (and Goku being in base) are also true of the Broly movie, which unequivocally takes place during the Cell Games gap.
**** these films.
We can establish that Vegeta is roughly equal to Goku in base/Super Saiyan, since they take down the first Meta Cooler and overload the Big Gete Star together. Both of these factors are more essential to the plot of the film than Dende being Earth's Guardian.
Add to that, Goku and Vegeta's...
I'm not going to say I disagree with this thread entirely, but I used this same Old King Piccolo logic years ago, and even I had to admit it didn't make sense after a while.
I'm just not going to bother addressing this anymore.
That's heavily out of context.
The Speed Force (and all the other forces) can't die while universes still exist, as it's an elemental, cosmological constant. Iris had a tiny spark of Speed Force remaining from her brief time as a Speedster...
Even if this is true (it's once again not supported), he had the durability to go toe to toe with Barry, who was equal to him, at a lesser power level. The amp is still a one-shot to characters at that level, and that's all that's relevant here.
Actually, that's another thing. Barry can curb...
Homie, his speed specifically is the thing that's being amped more than 20-fold. I was explicitly talking about the Speed Force there.
But, even then, he should not be dominating these characters with his Still, Strength and Sage Force abilities if each Force can only offer him a level of power...
You're actually just deconstructing your own point now. If Reverse Flash is equal to The Forces by virtue of being an avatar, how does he receive a >>>>>>20x amp to his Speed through The Forces? Also, this doesn't make sense because even the strongest avatars are no match for Nora even when The...
They empowered RF to the point where Flash absolutely didn't stand a chance against him, and you're talking about an incarnation of the Flash who was almost 20x slower than his Armageddon self being equal to The Forces in the OP.
Since when is the manifestation equal to the Speed Force? It's...
Firstly, Nora is just a manifestation of the Speed Force, and can exist separately from the realm itself, as we see at the end of Season 3 and in Season 7 when the avatars arrive in the Speed Force dimension before Nora. We don't scale her to the entirety of the Speed Force across the multiverse...
Saitama is stronger than (L)uffy👒 because Saitama is the One-Punch Man🤜 and (L)uffy isn't the One Piece☠️
Technically, I could've done it months ago. I'm just not very interested in OPM anymore.
This argument about who's the worse power scaler is like two homeless people arguing about who's more homeless.
If you asked, Oda's response would genuinely be something like '3 or 4, maybe 5'.
He genuinely doesn't give a shit about how powerful a character is in real terms because he's not...
He has a sordid history of this kind of stuff (albeit usually when provoked to some degree), so maybe a month or few month ban would work, especially given more recent behaviour.
What does everyone think of this?
I don't remember anything that suggests a Devil Fruit user immediately loses even a moderate amount of durability when they come into contact with Seastone, but I also don't remember anything that proves that Devil Fruit users don't.
We literally see them pierce his flesh/a wound on his chest in both versions. There's a piercing sound effect in the manga, meaning it's most likely that King isn't drained because Greenbull only just stabbed him.
I'm planning 2 larger threads down the line. This one is aimed at changes that have little bearing on the current scaling, and the next will probably focus on circular scaling.
Feel free to bring up any more small scaling changes that need to be made.
Smoker (Pre-Time Skip)
Has bested Luffy on...
I guess I can kind of concede to your point that it's inconsistent.
I'm making a small revision thread on Ulti and some other characters, so I'll just keep it a bit more vague there.
Same thing happens to her hair in the anime at this point.
What even is that cloud thing supposed to be? Maybe it's because I haven't re-read Whole Cake to Wano in a while, but I don't remember clouds being non-environmental/from heat sources, like they are in the very next panel.
You can see...
Actually, my bad on this one. My tired ass brain and mandela mind registered the scene as Luffy having pierced the blade in order to catch it, but he does catch it on the edge at first like I said he didn't previously.
You literally can't see her legs or the curvature of her back due to the...