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  1. Deagonx

    Infinite Multiversal Space Container Tier Discussion

    I think the existing standards pretty clearly don't allow for this to be 2-A, otherwise the distinction between 2-C, 2-B, and 2-A which is based on the amount of universes would become meaningless.
  2. Deagonx

    2A (Possibly L1C) Devil May Cry - A relevant closer to a CRT

    Yes, but the space that contains them simply being "infinite" isn't 2-A. It would need to either contain an infinite amount of universes or there would need to be a direct indication that it could contain an infinite amount. There isn't any and the OP isn't even alleging that there is, aside...
  3. Deagonx

    2A (Possibly L1C) Devil May Cry - A relevant closer to a CRT

    That would make it Low 1-C.
  4. Deagonx

    2A (Possibly L1C) Devil May Cry - A relevant closer to a CRT

    Superimposing text on a scan isn't merely a different translation. You should either be posting the raws and providing a translation, or posting the official English version of the scan. Ovens is right to point out that there is a very big issue passing off a scan with a dubious translation...
  5. Deagonx

    2A (Possibly L1C) Devil May Cry - A relevant closer to a CRT

    We have specific tiers based on the amount of universes. Infinite size is just Low 2-C. Containing 2-1000 universes is 2-C, anything finite above 1000 is 2-B and infinite universes 2-A. So I don't see how we would reach the conclusion of 2-A based on the phrase word "many". I'm not sure it's...
  6. Deagonx

    2A (Possibly L1C) Devil May Cry - A relevant closer to a CRT

    I will note, crucially, that his argument for 2-A is that the structure is Low 1-C. There isn't any evidence of it containing an infinite amount of universes. The premise of the upgrade is kind of farcical in that regard. OP is not arguing that it is stated within the verse that the DW contains...
  7. Deagonx

    Should flexible powers be indexed for each possible application?

    I think we can likely just close this. I don't really have the steam for it.
  8. Deagonx

    Yet Another Castlevania Thing

    Agreed on Dimensional Travel and Immersion, there's really just no basis for assuming literally anyone can do what Charlotte can do, and even for Charlotte it should be specified that this is a very specific circumstance. The situation with the painting acting as a wall for Dracula's magic...
  9. Deagonx

    Dante's Immeasurable justifications

    No idea.
  10. Deagonx

    Removal of 1-A Root.

    Yeah, based on this description I am skeptical that the Root qualifies. Many of these issues overlap with some of the issues with Tier 0, but for different reasons. @Ultima_Reality Your thoughts?
  11. Deagonx

    Dante's Immeasurable justifications

    It was a translation issue. The current immeasurable justification is based on Argosax having "instantaneous movement" but it's literally just teleportation.
  12. Deagonx

    Dante's Immeasurable justifications

    I'm sure there are better options, but we'll get bogged down debating the best replacement.
  13. Deagonx

    Dante's Immeasurable justifications

    Someone linked an accepted blog of an MFTL feat which I'm fine with in absence of a better option
  14. Deagonx

    Dante's Immeasurable justifications

    So what still needs to be done here?
  15. Deagonx

    2A (Possibly L1C) Devil May Cry - A relevant closer to a CRT

    Why would this pass when you are freely admitting that the premise of the upgrade is just not true, and what you're actually arguing for is Low 1-C, which has been rejected?
  16. Deagonx

    Dante's Immeasurable justifications

    I am fairly resistant to the idea that the phrase "that body of darkness" is sufficient to regard Mundus as being the void itself, given the litany of other descriptions during this fight scene that suggests the opposite, in addition to the inherently unintuitive nature of that idea
  17. Deagonx

    Dante's Immeasurable justifications

    It looks a lot more like he's just glancing around, like this:
  18. Deagonx

    Dante's Immeasurable justifications

    This should be the page those raws end on + the one immediately after it:
  19. Deagonx

    Dante's Immeasurable justifications

    I mean, I don't mind tackling both, it's just that it'll likely turn into a debacle. But I can make the case pretty easily. Dante's profile suggests that he has Immeasurable speed from dodging attacks from an Omnipresent Mundus: Crucially, however, the description of the attacks and the dodging...
  20. Deagonx

    Dante's Immeasurable justifications

    I think it'd be better to handle that separately. For now we just need to get this teleportation thing off the pages.
  21. Deagonx

    Soul Eater Verse CRT

    This looks good
  22. Deagonx

    Dante's Immeasurable justifications

    Okay. That seems fine for now.
  23. Deagonx

    Dante's Immeasurable justifications

    So, what do we change the speed to, if this teleportation ability doesn't cut it?
  24. Deagonx

    2A (Possibly L1C) Devil May Cry - A relevant closer to a CRT

    That would be better suited to a QnA thread, not a CRT. https://vsbattles.com/threads/yikes-i-suppose-even-fuji-may-cry-after-looking-at-this-upgrade-crt.168769/ I don't know what you're trying to communicate.
  25. Deagonx

    2A (Possibly L1C) Devil May Cry - A relevant closer to a CRT

    It's not something that can be visualized. Frankly I think the concept is basically incoherent, but some verses do use it. Regardless, that literally is what the tiering requirement is for scaling multiple temporal dimensions. It's a distinction without a difference. This was discussed at...
  26. Deagonx

    Dante's Immeasurable justifications

    So your theory is that Argosax can teleport and has immeasurable speed? Not that the "instant movement" ability refers to teleportation, which we can confirm with the other scan that phonetically calls it "teleporting?" Frankly I think this is an incredibly strained argument and I don't take it...
  27. Deagonx

    Dante's Immeasurable justifications

    There is another scan about Argosax which literally spells out "teleport" phonetically with katakana.
  28. Deagonx

    Dante's Immeasurable justifications

    I'll add, I am skeptical of that reasoning. Absent more specific information, I wouldn't assume the attacks are anything more than physical manifestations within the realm that are being dodged, rather than some bizarre "dodging" of the realm itself. However, that can be hashed out in a separate...
  29. Deagonx

    Dante's Immeasurable justifications

    I thought Mundus wasn't a teleportation related feat, but supposedly dodging an "omnipresent" attack
  30. Deagonx

    Dante's Immeasurable justifications

    More importantly, the situation here seems overwhelmingly clear. Not only is teleporting not immeasurable speed, but the upgrade was never approved in the first place.
  31. Deagonx

    Dante's Immeasurable justifications

    Yes, which is not sufficient to pass.
  32. Deagonx

    Dante's Immeasurable justifications

    No, the correct link only had 1 agree.
  33. Deagonx

    Dante's Immeasurable justifications

    It was applied in October of 2023, citing this thread which doesn't directly address speed, but in some of the replies they talk about the Argosax feat being brought up in the general thread, which seems to refer to the one you pointed out, so it does seem like it was applied without actually...
  34. Deagonx

    Dante's Immeasurable justifications

    Jesus christ.
  35. Deagonx

    Dante's Immeasurable justifications

    What does that even mean
  36. Deagonx

    2A (Possibly L1C) Devil May Cry - A relevant closer to a CRT

    For a hyper timeline to be relevant for tiering, it's concept of past/future must be orthogonal from the typical time axis. It can't just be a "bigger" or "separate" time axis, it needs to be directionally distinct, which is a very abstract concept that you can't just stumble your way into by...
  37. Deagonx

    Dante's Immeasurable justifications

    I don't think the phrase "quick movement" is incompatible with teleportation, FWIW. I'm leaning towards agreeing with the thread, but I am open to better evidence of actual infinite or immeasurable speed.
  38. Deagonx

    2A (Possibly L1C) Devil May Cry - A relevant closer to a CRT

    Low 2-C is a single 4-D structure. 2-C is multiple (2 - 1000). Can you use scans? I don't know what evidence you're referring to. I don't know what you believe I am admitting to. Was it not already clear that I disagreed? That was the subject of discussion in his last thread. It was...
  39. Deagonx

    2A (Possibly L1C) Devil May Cry - A relevant closer to a CRT

    Can you be specific? I already explained this. It's normal to refer to 2-A structures as "infinite" despite them having a 5-D axis which is not infinite, and there's no evidence that the Demon World's 5-D axis is infinite. Okay, your stance on the matter is noted. I don't share it. That's not...
  40. Deagonx

    2A (Possibly L1C) Devil May Cry - A relevant closer to a CRT

    Okay, I am more than happy to review them. Where are they? The Demon World being called infinite "on its own" does not necessarily refer to its 5-D axis. That was one of the main arguments of the earlier thread. That argument was hashed out extensively in this thread. Also the Darkness was...
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