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Akuma's definitely more skilled (Mario's beaten expert martial artists but not really ones as specialized and with feats as clear cut as especially higher end SF people, although honestly I don't think there's anything too insane in terms of feats for the verse) but I think Mario can win here...
But there's no reason to assume it can buff him to its level of power if we know for a fact that there's a huge gap between how much AP and Durability it can give him. The Star Rod's own feat is completely dissimilar from statistics amplification so it's not like you can say "oh they're both AP...
To my understanding he's just using the platform in the first phase, or at least not going all out with the Rod. Otherwise it doesn't really make sense for him to be capable of buffing himself even further.
He literally says that he isn't using the Star Rod's power as its fullest outright, and the second he begins to Mario is no longer capable of hurting him. I'm not sure if I'm misunderstanding something but this seems really straightforward.
And I don't really agree with it. Mario can at best scratch through Bowser's defense with his strongest attack but still never really standing a chance to win before Bowser even utilizes his full power, at which point he's 100% invincible, that's not really evidence for scaling.
That's pretty...
I wouldn't be surprised, Nintendo's been testing the waters with the TTYD remake I feel. Then again that only sold half the copies of Origami King, so who knows.
It's not really a Mario subseries per se but I'd love a new Wario Land or DKC.
Bowser does just hit people with fire breath in Jamboree, idk if Bowser and his goons' intervention with the parties is something they're ok with. It definitely isn't in MPDS off the top of my head.
It's a bit tough, I guess you'd calc it like a bending feat for LS. But honestly knowing Penny's whole thing it's pretty likely this is just reality warping.
Requesting the deletion of this profile. It's indexing an extremely minor bad guy (literally has a single fight scene in which he throws a total of two punches) from a massive manga series that only appears in the very first chapter. It is being scaled to the protagonist Kiichi Miyazawa for...
I already recognized that there is a fair argument for the Shadow Queen scaling. Mario growing in power throughout his games is a fact but is also pretty inconsistent given how every power dynamic across the series remains the same despite that growth, so I wouldn't exactly rely on it too much...
No, you're correct. It is a pretty prominent bit of what he does so I dunno what our standards are in that regard, so maybe they wouldn't (though personally i'd think it's ok).
Yeah. Also something else is he can just, hurt bosses in 2 player mode so I guess he'd just scale to them.
Random thought but should Cappy have the various Odyssey captures as optional equipment? Also maybe Dimensional Storage given the fast travel animation where he seems to just, absorb Mario and move him around.
(Also I loved this DB, might be a top 5 one for me)
Don't get me wrong I agree, whenever I check a thread I try to read the whole thing and give my thoughts on arguments and counterarguments (and it's pretty annoying to see a staff member just FRAing when there's flaws nobody's pointed out) but what do you want me to do about it? Tag everybody...
I do not have any more control over how a thread goes than any other thread mod on the forum. If my points made no sense it would have simply been overruled by enough people voting against it and yet this has not happened. It may happen some day, clearly some people don't view powerscaling the...
Maybe it's a catch-all response because it makes sense and maybe the supporters gave up because they realized it made sense. What do you even want me to do, just stop saying it? If you don't think it's a "correct" argument disprove it.
Yes, and then people would have accused me of lowballing...
I mean, it can. But I don't think it's "stonewalling" to say that a character should not be a certain tier if there's many more anti-feats against it than feats for it. Sure I've made the argument a handful of times already but like... yeah? If multiple threads are made with the argument of...
Ehh
Like to be clear, if Brothership was like, one game in a small linear series I'd be fine with that (as I would be fine with High 6-A as a straight-up solid rating), but I think with looking at the bigger picture using a pretty questionable statement for such a big upgrade for a verse with...
Mario doesn't scale to the Shadow Queen in base. He literally cannot hurt her in any relevant way until he gets buffed by everyone's prayers. (If the claim is he could fight her while in Peach's body, she says it outright that she only suffered slight damage from his attacks even in that state...
I don't really have an opinion on the thread but if you do end up splitting it I'd recommend specifying that MFTL+ is travel speed, rather than only specifying what the combat speed is
I'd consider magic to be a canon limitation, the bosses not using it isn't really more reliable for canon than the player characters needing to. Otherwise I think this is good to apply, with the evidence that it's canon
Not commenting on the paper mario one cause it's something I'm not really sure about (there's been some talk on an Undertale thread about small clouds not really being viable for MHS+ lightning), but I wanted to inform you of an FTL calc I made for Rosalina a while ago, in case it's helpful to you.
I think removing a few decimals from the values probably would be for the better but I don't really care either way.
As for Blinding Speed I honestly don't think the 16.6% value is even correct, it's just sort of the way that the spell's mechanics intersect with its full attack, not really...
I dunno honestly I've just seen a lot of snarking like that from a few people since I did the downgrades and it's gotten very annoying. But I appreciate you extending an olive branch.
Agree with AD. As for Zone Speed it's definitely amplifying his speed in gameplay, the characters cross distances way faster than their opponents while using it and even leave afterimages. Now one could interpret that as just being a dramatized way to represent the perception amp, but given they...
Hi, typically I don't comment on this thread because I get the vibe that I'm not particularly welcomed here, but given that there's probably gonna be a few threads coming out from you guys with Brothership's release, I just wanted to give a reminder that just because I disagree with what you...
Alright fair enough. I guess you could say it's sort of like a light/electricity construct not moving at any particular speeds, but given it still basically shoots like a projectile I dunno if that should be the default assumption, I'd consider it acceptable if slightly questionable to say it's...
"We use" doesn't mean much to me. There's 35000 profiles and nearly a thousand editors active in the wiki's recent history, some people doing it (on fairly niche profiles especially) isn't really evidence of anything (I mean there's a LOT of things you can easily find even on recent profiles...
...like lightning does not in my opinion make you MHS+. To be very clear, this is NOT an argument about the realism of magic electricity in Undertale*, it's an argument about how the electricity is not actually created in a way that makes it analogous to real lightning specifically.
EDIT: To...