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  1. ZothythoTheNephalem

    Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

    Huh, maybe it was always there. Maybe it's the Mandala Effect playing tricks on me LMAO.
  2. ZothythoTheNephalem

    Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

    In the profile. Go check it out.
  3. ZothythoTheNephalem

    Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

    Eyup. Shadow Gens gave him a bit of touch-ups.
  4. ZothythoTheNephalem

    Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

    I didn't ask where it came from, but specifically how it's limited and what it's limit would even be. Also, I'm really just wondering about the entire common consensus on the Sonic Shuffle scaling, how Sonic was one of the people to beat Void in base. There's no longer the note of it being an...
  5. ZothythoTheNephalem

    Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

    It says limited, so I can't attribute an entire negation upon all acausals in general. Entirely depends on how the acausal negation works and how it would even fair. That and not much entirely convinced of Archie Sonic's "superior tiering" compared to Games Sonic. Not to say my word is law or...
  6. ZothythoTheNephalem

    Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

    I like the imagery of all comics and crossover-y stuff just having a shared super-multiverse in general LOL.
  7. ZothythoTheNephalem

    Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

    It's funny that they are similar, but in the opposite direction. Yet everyone in the Games Sonic verse easily scales to Sonic.
  8. ZothythoTheNephalem

    Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

    It's funny cuz a lot of what the Chaos Emeralds, Chaos Energy, and just Super Forms can do in the Games is just enough to deal with Archie Sonic's canon plot armor.
  9. ZothythoTheNephalem

    Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

    Archie's fate hax get completely negated by Game Sonic's casual fate defiance and general acausality (seen in Secret Rings and implied in Fronters). This is also something Games Shadow also has (in terms of acausality).
  10. ZothythoTheNephalem

    Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

    You just reminded me of MvC2. "I wanna take you for a ride!"
  11. ZothythoTheNephalem

    Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

    It'd be a huge mind-f, that's for sure. I'd consider it as crossover-y as its somewhat associated comic company crossovers like Image and stuff like that. But at the same time, it'd be both super funny. Also kinda cringe considering the tangled state comics are in rn with so many things packed...
  12. ZothythoTheNephalem

    Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

    Sonic Verse scaling to DCU is gonna be so funny, bro. Trust in the system LMAO.
  13. ZothythoTheNephalem

    Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

    I hope they add more Shadow 05 Levels since the game was super-lacking in it. Also it would be very funny if they added a Gotham Level. What Sonic Team really needs to capitalize on is the free update game. Just like how they did with Frontiers. If they keep that up, the game is replayable...
  14. ZothythoTheNephalem

    Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

    Oh, I've kinda been lurking around and checking the Sonic scene every so often. I've mainly been in the YouTube comment section powerscaling scene a lil. It's as exhausting as it sounds, there's little payout, people don't read, but but it's still so f-ing funny.
  15. ZothythoTheNephalem

    Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

    People won't believe me for my 5-D Base Sonic scaling via Sonic Shuffle and I'd prolly just get dragged for saying that cuz people like to believe the spin-offs are non-canon or that the feat's an outlier. Which is fine and all LMAO. Honestly, I just think that the Games just have more meat on...
  16. ZothythoTheNephalem

    Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

    And that's valid. I just wish people didn't just look at this wiki and turn their brain off afterwards. All it does is plague certain spaces with ignorance and I am tired of it specifically in the Sonic Fandom. I've said this before and I'll say it again, but Archie Sonic fans and Dragon Ball...
  17. ZothythoTheNephalem

    Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

    I already see Games as just objectively superior to Archie. Been superior for a long, long time imo. Especially due to the new Low 2-C scaling for Games Sonic that gave everyone a facelift. I don't think Games canon even needs atomic manip at all. Peeps in Games Verse can tank Antimatter and...
  18. ZothythoTheNephalem

    Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

    As DJ Smokey has once said "The lore runs deeper than I thought....".
  19. ZothythoTheNephalem

    Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

    I hardly count Ultra Sonic even having that varying power, anyway. It makes the scaling far too swingy for its own good and leads to this slippery slope that's just exhausting to have to walk on. Ultra Sonic just sucks all around, personally. The design sucks, the explanation of its power...
  20. ZothythoTheNephalem

    Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

    Cap-puccino. I'll be honest and say I hardly used VsBattles as my go-to source, to be real. Being complacent and relying on one place for info just rots the brain if you don't commit to your own research and study on a medium to come up with a conclusion. People gotta realized that VsBattles...
  21. ZothythoTheNephalem

    Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

    I agree. Ian Flynn is more of a suggestion, not the absolute rule. Sooner people realize, the better. This is why I typically use my own scaling rather than relying on one place or source.
  22. ZothythoTheNephalem

    Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

    I don't even consider it stronger than Super even then. Its feats and showings just don't line up at all and don't reliably make it anywhere close to the highs of Super Sonic, even when 7 Super Emeralds were present, yet they were ALL used to turn into Super Sonic.
  23. ZothythoTheNephalem

    Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

    Ian isn't known to be the most credible source of info. Bro says Sonic loses to Kid Goku. So funny.
  24. ZothythoTheNephalem

    Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

    I don't think that changes the answer, though you could much more reliably argue strength for Games than Archie shlock.
  25. ZothythoTheNephalem

    Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

    I mean, that's like asking how does a glass of water and a glass of water compare. If they both shared the same cosmology, they'd share the scaling. Thus, they would be equal or comparable. Arguably, Game Sonic as way more to work with than the vague and absurd stuff Archie tries (and often...
  26. ZothythoTheNephalem

    Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

    I think it looks fine as is since it serves its purpose considering the Spin Dash works as intended. However I will say that I don't much see a point in it having tiers, tbh. The pages for it are rather small and the unique tiering seems a little unnecessary. I dunno if I'm bugging, it just...
  27. ZothythoTheNephalem

    Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

    They definitely should. Else there'd be a tier of Spindash below Standard (which there isn't).
  28. ZothythoTheNephalem

    Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

    It's fine if you didn't know that, but people often don't talk a single Google-ing to fact check it.
  29. ZothythoTheNephalem

    Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

    The Chaos Emeralds. They typically rely on an emotional response and enriched by the heart.
  30. ZothythoTheNephalem

    Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

    I'M REALLY LIKE THAT! Literally I pull up to almost every video that pops up in my recommended of topics relating to Archie VS Games stuff on YouTube PURELY to detox the contagion that is the FRAUDchie glazers! Saying stuff like shit like "Archie Sonic has more hax" (despite the fact that Games...
  31. ZothythoTheNephalem

    Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

    What I'm SAYING, legit! I'm glad someone here actually agrees. Also in every instance it's shown, it's shown to burn out very quickly. Honestly, I see it as more of an "uninhibited mode" for Sonic more than an actual Super-level form. Even if he needs actual super emeralds or whatever to use the...
  32. ZothythoTheNephalem

    Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

    Chaos Rift has gotta be canon though lol. That's a cool-ass move. Shadow just Hollow Purpling (never watched JJK) people away outside of space-time or whatever is so funny to me. Wish that move was used in sprite animations LOL
  33. ZothythoTheNephalem

    Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

    Ken Penders (derogatory). The stuff in Chronicles was actually kinda cool. I wish Shade could actually be used. She's an interesting character.
  34. ZothythoTheNephalem

    Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

    Eggman (and Tails) are the HIM of the INT-Stat. Do NOT pull up to the function without a five-dollar foot-long or mints or else you're getting eggblasted/napalm bombed LMAO.
  35. ZothythoTheNephalem

    Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

    I've been saying this for a long time. Ultra Sonic is literally the 007 of Sonic forms. 0 feats, 0 showings, and 7 days a week glazing by dunderheads who don't know what they're talking about. I can only count on ONE hand how many times Ultra Sonic has actually been used, but zero of them...
  36. ZothythoTheNephalem

    Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

    No, I get that. I am often an advocate AGAINST the Archie glazing in the Sonic community, but some people who think they're first-rate powerscalers or something believe Archie is still on top. It's funny because they use some of the weirdest stuff like interpreting Sonic writing his own comic as...
  37. ZothythoTheNephalem

    Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

    Sorry if this is SUPER late, but it's so funny how this is happening considering the amount of "Archie is just stronger in everyway"-ism there is.
  38. ZothythoTheNephalem

    Pure hearts Vs Human souls

    One SOUL, from what we've seen from The Player in Undertale, could potentially survive a multiversal collapse. Especially since God Asriel was very sure that he can wipe Frisk clean from all timelines until they are reduced to zero and erased from existence. By that logic, one SOUL could...
  39. ZothythoTheNephalem

    Chara vs. Betty

    I never said that it was meant to restrain him but only put him in a position in which Chara was in their element and had the advantage. My vote goes to Season 1 Chara.
  40. ZothythoTheNephalem

    Chara vs. Betty

    It would obviously mean that, if Chara wanted the full effectiveness, 3 seconds of time are required. Any less wouldn't be as effective. Also, yes he did use it. In the fight against Asriel Dreemurr.
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