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  1. Elizio33

    An upgrade for The Presence

    Also. Come to think of it, The Voice being an aspect of God is clear in DeMatteis' stories, but what about the main cosmology? The Voice has been stated several times to be the true God and there has been no mention of him being an aspect of God outside of DeMatteis' works, unless I am mistaken...
  2. Elizio33

    An upgrade for The Presence

    This would be added.
  3. Elizio33

    An upgrade for The Presence

    @Ultima_Reality In these scans, Swamp Thing broke through the barriers of his own ignorance to roam as free as the purest thought, beyond all obstacles (opposites) to a point where time is no time and space is no space, and become one with the symmetrical nature of God.
  4. Elizio33

    An upgrade for The Presence

    Swamp Thing Vol 2 75
  5. Elizio33

    An upgrade for The Presence

    I break through the barrier of my own blind ignorance... Into a warm sunshine of understanding. To roam free... As free as the purest thought... As pure as the symmetry of nature. Beyond all obstacles. To a point where time is no time... And space is no space... Where one may silently observe...
  6. Elizio33

    An upgrade for The Presence

    @Antvasima most agree with this thread, can the changes be applied?
  7. Elizio33

    An upgrade for The Presence

    I think at this point most were in agreement with the thread.
  8. Elizio33

    An upgrade for The Presence

    Here's how the apexes of the Crisis Cosmology aside from The Presence should be ranked: The Great Darkness is 1-A. Is the font of nothingness that precedes all, its scope more all-encompassing than the Light of Creation that was born in defiance of it and yet dwindled out of its memory. Is the...
  9. Elizio33

    An upgrade for The Presence

    Yes.
  10. Elizio33

    An upgrade for The Presence

    I don't think so. The Great Darkness is the dualistic opposite to the Light of Creation, both locked forever in endless struggles. It should stay 1-A.
  11. Elizio33

    An upgrade for The Presence

    The Presence (Crisis Cosmology) Tier: High 1-A+ | 0 Keys: The Voice | The Creator Attack Potency: High Outerverse level+ (The Voice is the word through which God commanded the Light of Creation to shine through the Great Darkness when he sang everything into existence, and by which God acts...
  12. Elizio33

    An upgrade for The Presence

    Basically Yes since an aspect of The Presence spoke everything into existence.
  13. Elizio33

    An upgrade for The Presence

    Sure. What about "The Voice" | "The Creator"
  14. Elizio33

    An upgrade for The Presence

    Think of it this way, the writer wanted to focus more on the Great Darkness by bringing back the origin story told in Crisis on Infinite Earths when all was darkness until the burning light came, but who shaped the Multiverse? There was indeed a time gap between the flaw and the creation of the...
  15. Elizio33

    An upgrade for The Presence

    The Light of Creation was born in the Great Darkness, and it has been confirmed that The Light is The Source. This corresponds to John Byrne's Fourth World when it says that The Source was born in the void. The Light (or Source) grew and when everything was no longer nothing, the Great Darkness...
  16. Elizio33

    An upgrade for The Presence

    I break through the barrier of my own blind ignorance... Into a warm sunshine of understanding. To roam free... As free as the purest thought... As pure as the symmetry of nature. Beyond all obstacles. To a point where time is no time... And space is no space... Where one may silently observe...
  17. Elizio33

    An upgrade for The Presence

    Yeah.
  18. Elizio33

    An upgrade for The Presence

    This thread is for the Crisis Cosmology part of the Presence.
  19. Elizio33

    An upgrade for The Presence

    Hello! 👋🏽 This thread will deal with the topic of god tiers of Crisis Cosmology, starting off with Monitor-Mind The Overvoid. The above name was used more exclusively in Grant Morrison's Final Crisis and Multiversity and in some of Grant's interviews, but was not mentioned elsewhere, but the...
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    • Forum: Content Revision
  20. Elizio33

    Creating a profile for Chronicler and Pariah (DC Comics)

    Bump.
  21. Elizio33

    Creating a profile for Chronicler and Pariah (DC Comics)

    Bump.
  22. Elizio33

    DC/Vertigo Cosmology Redo (Part 2 of 2)

    This seems fine to me for now.
  23. Elizio33

    Bionicle General Discussion Thread

    Most of DC's characters are either 3-C or 2-C though. A possible 4-C, up to 3-A rather than a straight 3-A tier seems reasonable and not too far-fetched.
  24. Elizio33

    Bionicle General Discussion Thread

    You should send this video to any calc member of this wiki for review. This might potentially upgrade the characters, who knows.
  25. Elizio33

    Bionicle General Discussion Thread

    The first image is the one where Teridax claims to have enough power to decimate entire universes and rule all of reality, and the second suggests that Teridax can conquer a real universe of planets, suns and stars. Basically, in the story: Journey's End, Teridax claimed that the Great Spirit...
  26. Elizio33

    Bionicle General Discussion Thread

  27. Elizio33

    Bionicle General Discussion Thread

  28. Elizio33

    An Upgrade for Ignika, Vahi, and Mask of Creation - Bionicle

    All three legendary masks are equal, so this should apply to them as well.
  29. Elizio33

    An Upgrade for Ignika, Vahi, and Mask of Creation - Bionicle

    No, but it does prove that the powers of the mask can affect a planet the size of Spherus Magna.
  30. Elizio33

    Bionicle General Discussion Thread

    A proposal for Teridax
  31. Elizio33

    Bionicle General Discussion Thread

    Teridax (Great Spirit Robot) Tier: High 5-A, possibly 4-C up to 3-A Attack Potency: Brown Dwarf level (Can destroy Bara Magna with a single burst of gravity, and would have devastated the planet in his fight with Mata Nui, and can pull its moons in to recreate the even larger Spherus Magna...
  32. Elizio33

    Bionicle General Discussion Thread

    The size of Bionicle's islands is unclear, but I think it might be useful to review the calculations for their sizes. @Promestein
  33. Elizio33

    An Upgrade for Ignika, Vahi, and Mask of Creation - Bionicle

    The three fragments were reunited by the doings of Mata Nui and Makuta. After Mata Nui defeated Makuta, he used the Ignika to restore life on the reunited planet. The Ignika was essentially the glue for the fragments and also what restored Spherus Magna to its former glory before the shattering...
  34. Elizio33

    Bionicle General Discussion Thread

    Yes. What was really unnecessary was for the author to reveal the nature of the great beings, which completely ruined the whole mystery behind them.
  35. Elizio33

    Bionicle General Discussion Thread

    The Matoran are the working who (unknowingly) ensure the good working of the GSR, Turaga were the guides for the Matoran, Toa acted like the robot's white blood cells. The Makuta, Rahi and Rahkshi were viruses.
  36. Elizio33

    An Upgrade for Ignika, Vahi, and Mask of Creation - Bionicle

    Mata Nui in the prototype robot used the Ignika to restore Spherus Magna to how it was before it was shattered into three shards.
  37. Elizio33

    An Upgrade for Ignika, Vahi, and Mask of Creation - Bionicle

    The Mask of Life can restore the High 5-A Spherus Magna
  38. Elizio33

    Bionicle General Discussion Thread

    Yes
  39. Elizio33

    Bionicle General Discussion Thread

    Yes. Ignika, Vahi and Mask of Creation
  40. Elizio33

    Bionicle General Discussion Thread

    One question since GSP Makuta can apparently destroy a universe overtime according to his own claims and those of the author, shouldn't he be "High 5-A, possibly 4-C, up to 3-A" ???
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