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I'm not sure if anyone ever said this. So sorry if someone has, but what about: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Standard_Battle_Assumptions
Does the verse equalization apply and allow Karmic Retribution?
Well, since someone is arguing. I guess there is something to say. Also, I apologize in advance that this is very long.
"For one thing, I will never agree to scaling the other spriggans off this...never. It's just not credible when it was always stated they were far below the top two and that...
I actually doubt the series will do anything this destructive again. Irene's feat might not be proven at all because the creator probably won't show something that destroys a country in one shot again.
As for your reasons, anything is up for debate at this point. Personally, a bunch of...
Actually possible prep time, we don't know for sure if she prepped for Universe One. For all we know, she was just excited to get the war moving along. Zeref even stated that she is trying to finish the war as fast as possible. It's because it's not explicitly stated to be prep that there is...
Are you sure about that? What does this mean then: "Also, kindly remember that Attack Potency is the measure of Destructive Capacity of an attack, and as such, is measured via its energy damage equivalent. Hence, characters that destroy mountains or islands are not automatically mountain or...
I'm still not certain if it was even prep to begin with. Also, several chapter =/= long prep. Besides, when Zeref asked what Irene was up to, she was already using a spell. That's probably what Zeref sensed.
http://www.**********.com/fairy-tail/486/13 (Irene did something to the ground)...
I still don't see the "prep" we are talking about. I don't think a few minutes or so is something to consider prep. For all we know, it might not even need prep.
4 chapters is not really a measurement, for all we know, it could have been a few minutes. Gajeel and Bradman's battle didn't seem that long anyways, and we saw her talking to Acno right after that. So it can't be that long.
I don't think the attack had to damage anyone. If it was an attack on them, a Country Level attack would have beaten almost everyone except Acnologia and a few other people. Irene didn't shrink the country though, that's the word Zeref used to describe what Irene did.
As for scaling, that has...
(Note: My opinion) From Irene's new feat, the rest of the Spriggan 12 should be scaled alongside August, Acnologia, BDKM Natsu, and Zeref.
It should be certain that atleast those 5 get upgraded. The Spriggan 12 and anyone they've clashed with are up for debate.
"Do we really know that Zeref is the same tier as these other guys when it comes to attack-potency and durability?"
He has to be, since he has to be able to put down August or Irene if they try to move on their own accord and disobey him or move out of line. Zeref admits it's hard to control...
Well, I doubt it matters. Igneel didn't have much of his strength against Acnologia (supposedly). They're on the same tier (High 6-B) now anyways. Not really much need for a debate. I mean we could argue whether FDKM Natsu would even match Weakened Igneel, but no point.
So, if Fiore is a very...
Even though that small portion matched Zeref and was able to damage him - possibly kill him? BDKM Mode Natsu and Zeref should also scale. We scaled Natsu to Zeref, who scales to Irene and August.
Yeah.... so? It doesn't matter that Natsu fought Zeref. He was still scared af when August transformed. It's already been proven, multiple times, that heat based attacks are useless against Natsu. So i don't see why that matters.
Also, it's not the speedblitz that negates GS's chances of being...
A speedblitz doesn't exactly mean that God Serena can't be Country level. Otherwise, we should start demoting other characters who got speedblitz in the same series.
I still don't believe that they should stay 7-B. The power difference is not that large. Brandish doesn't even know that Natsu fought Zeref himself. She's just made an assumption of that. Besides, Natsu is strong enough to eat August's attack.
(Brandish is 6-C by haxs, she casually shrunk an entire island. I forgot who told me, but they said it didn't count for scaling.) Your reasoning is not making much sense to me. In my opinion, just because some Spriggans are stronger than others doesn't mean we can just have such a large gap...
If you want to use other series to compare, fine. The entire team of RWBY is the same despite Yang being the strongest who was stomped by Neo and they are still the same tier: 8-A. Besides, Bleach made it clear that some Captains are above others vastly. This is also because Aizen, Gin and...
Just because the Spriggans have certain individuals that are considered stronger doesn't mean they get to move an entire tier up. The difference isn't that large. The Spriggan 12 are closely around the same power, just because August and Irene are stronger, doesn't negate the fact that they...
Base form? Was him turning a different colour considered a different form? Either way, I just think it's way too unreasonable for a difference in power. Besides, why is that difficult to accept? Brandish said the Spriggan 12 were of the same caliber herself. Perhaps August and Irene are stronger...
Wait, why can't the other Spriggans be upgraded to 6-B? Weren't they meant to be on the same caliber? Besides, 7-B and 6-B is too large of a difference. It kinda doesn't make sense too me. Maybe 6-C at the least.
She destroyed most of Fiore leaving 1/20th of what Fiore was. Her magic reconstructed locations, as well as people and realms. She brought back the dead using her ability. Her range effects beyond a country because of the dead thing, but she is definitely a country level.
It's not that they are not valid but they could have already factored that into his Durability already.
Acnologia's Dragon Scales are like One Piece's Logia Intangibility, except nerfed. Acnologia's Dragon Scales don't make him impervious to damage, it just shields him a bit more. That's why...
Galan is not almighty just because he can regenerate. Galan has his weaknesses - as stated previously. Besides, Acnologia may not be able to understand NnT Demons, but he's not dumb. He's killed several dragons and has been living for quite sometime. He has battle knowledge. Acnologia also has...
Why? Are the claims not valid enough? Dragon Scales are real. Dragon durability is different in FT. The fact there is a mention of it, makes it a durability weapon for Acnologia.
I'm pretty sure it is. They take all durability things into account when they make durability stats.
It's not written, so I'm not sure I can agree with you. For all we know, it's not been recognized.
Actually yes, I believe I can. Igneel has Dragon Slayer magic. His attacks were strong enough to penetrate through Acno's defences because Igneel's Slayer magic is effective against Acnologia and vice versa.