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  1. Luck100

    Marvel 1-A Scalling Chain.

    That's not the case here, the archytipe of fiction itself exists in Eternity and nigthmare almost conquerer it in Fantastic Four true story.
  2. Luck100

    Marvel 1-A Scalling Chain.

    There are the mystical realms, divine realms (home of gods and fountain of creation) and even splinter realms who could scale with dreams realm.
  3. Luck100

    Marvel 1-A Scalling Chain.

    Well, Dreams and fiction exist in the same sphere of higher plans in Marvel and inside eternity. So ... TOAA > Thanos cosmic regulator > Thanos again (HOTU) > Obvilion > Beyonders = Owen Reece > Above all others and aspects of the same = One below All and World breaker > First Firmament and...
  4. Luck100

    Dormammu vs Darkseid

    Yes, I know, but that is not accepted, I think, and the DC universe is infinitely large materially. But didn't DC universe size been retconeed nowdays and the material universe is limited by the speed force ? While space and time limited by the source wall ?
  5. Luck100

    Dormammu vs Darkseid

    I'm not saying of infinity dimensions just space in the universe itself
  6. Luck100

    Dormammu vs Darkseid

    The space of a Marvel universe are infinity so good luck comparing them to our observable universe.
  7. Luck100

    Hecate Vs Thanos with HOTA

    Thanos should stomp and win even with his low 1-C key.
  8. Luck100

    What's the marvel tier list look like.

    1- The One Above All (as writer) 2- Obvilion 3- Thanos Astral Regulator 4- Thanos HOTU. 5- Above All Others - Divine Creator 6- One Below All - World Breaker 7- Beyonders / Molecular Man 8- Eternity Omniverse (and his sons) and first firmament. 9- Living tribunal 10- Elders Gods and...
  9. Luck100

    Marvel Comics: Possible Yggdrasil Upgrade - Part 4

    Now I noted that celestials are just 5-D even being superior to pre retcon Beyonder and phoenix force. Stonks. Anyway upgrade RTK above them.
  10. Luck100

    Marvel Comics: Possible Yggdrasil Upgrade - Part 4

    I agree with Driger after all this discussion is better put RKT low 1-C and above Odin.
  11. Luck100

    Marvel Comics: Possible Yggdrasil Upgrade - Part 4

    Well, a pale imatipation of their powers absorved red hulk life force ... so you're wrong about this.
  12. Luck100

    Marvel Comics: Possible Yggdrasil Upgrade - Part 4

    But the citation of higher realms automatically upgraded beings in others verses to be infinitily above beings that are from lower dimensions (like Superman punch in world forger or in new gods and both verses have the same rules).
  13. Luck100

    Marvel Comics: Possible Yggdrasil Upgrade - Part 4

    If a scan from 2014 is not adequate to knowing when Odin got nerfed I don't know what would be more appropriate. Himself saying that his powers is not what used to be. And the existence of higher planes was not refucted but actually proved with scans, all pantheons of earth have realms that...
  14. Luck100

    Marvel Comics: Possible Yggdrasil Upgrade - Part 4

    The upgrade of skyfathers was not accept because some people actually complained about Jane Foster (Thor) agaisnt Odin and use it even Odin claiming being nerfed . And some people was against Yggdrasil being eternity or have infinity universe but they don't even complain about spatial...
  15. Luck100

    Marvel Comics: Possible Yggdrasil Upgrade - Part 4

    @Overlord775 Would be better if yggdrasil was accepted as at least 1-C or 1-B and RTK trascending this tree ... I and Driger have posted proof to 1-C statement.
  16. Luck100

    Marvel Comics: Possible Yggdrasil Upgrade - Part 4

    And ignore yggdrasil statements of reaching higher realms of pantheons ? How can we upgrade RKT as 2-A if yggdrasil scales above 2-A and RKT transcend such structure ? But even regular Odin have 2-A feats if you try to upgrade destroyer i wouldn't mind ...
  17. Luck100

    Marvel Comics: Possible Yggdrasil Upgrade - Part 4

    They protect the core of all creation and sme of them exist in the highest planes of reality and even know the plane of the TOAA. But they don't know about "omniversal" eternity ?
  18. Luck100

    Marvel Comics: Possible Yggdrasil Upgrade - Part 4

    There are more. The celestial Axis exist in different forms for all pantheons of gods and it's exist in all their realms. For the nordic gods is Yggdrasil but for greeks in the Axis mundi and go on ... if all gods have a representation of the celestial axis in their realms it's suggest that...
  19. Luck100

    Marvel Comics: Possible Yggdrasil Upgrade - Part 4

    Very security indeed specially when they connect Morrison cosmology to Vertigo universe and Snyder new one. I don't know why be blind to dozens or hundreds of citations in Marvel cosmology but upgrade all other franchises with one citation ... I have post arguments above that would be 1-A in...
  20. Luck100

    Marvel Comics: Possible Yggdrasil Upgrade - Part 4

    DC dont lack of inconsistency actually DC have pass Marvel by miles in this matter. But they have more biased "important" members so ...
  21. Luck100

    Marvel Comics: Possible Yggdrasil Upgrade - Part 4

    There are a lot of 1-B and 1-A beings in others verses in the wikia with less evidence and cosistancy than Yggdrasil upgrade why only this upgrade is barred while others can pass ?
  22. Luck100

    Marvel Comics: Possible Yggdrasil Upgrade - Part 4

    No. I stand with Alonik. Yggdrasil coming from a time before time, with her seed being the gearth of the supreme god of a preview existence and the tree reaching higher realms is more than enough to be higher than 1-C. Even some minor gods have better feats than 1-C and they scale with Odin.
  23. Luck100

    Marvel Comics: Possible Yggdrasil Upgrade - Part 4

    Did you read the thread ? Especially the part that Obvilion itself confirms that chaos king almost destroyed the whole multiverse. The divine dimensions where the creation was give birth was absorved by him , some of these dimensions are Otherworld (Celtic gods home and where Roma monitore...
  24. Luck100

    Marvel Comics: Possible Yggdrasil Upgrade - Part 4

    I don't know why say that gods don't know nothing about eternity. It's illogical because they protect the source of all creation from mikaboshi in chaos war.
  25. Luck100

    Marvel Comics: Possible Yggdrasil Upgrade - Part 4

    Since when he's part of it. Gods have a great influence in eternity.
  26. Luck100

    Marvel Comics: Possible Yggdrasil Upgrade - Part 4

    Loki says that silver surfer was in the same plane that is confirmed by the shaper of worlds to be Obvilion.
  27. Luck100

    Marvel Comics: Possible Yggdrasil Upgrade - Part 4

    In the worst case is low 1-A and in the best case 1-A too.
  28. Luck100

    Marvel Comics: Possible Yggdrasil Upgrade - Part 4

    In the final strory of Loki: Agent of Asgard Loki meet TWSAIS outside all things (eternity).
  29. Luck100

    Marvel Comics: Possible Yggdrasil Upgrade - Part 4

    There are some gods who scale with Odin but some of them should be even above by feats.
  30. Luck100

    Marvel Comics: Possible Yggdrasil Upgrade - Part 4

    I think that the skyfather's upgrade would only futher upgrade celestials and cosmic cube to a scale even higher than they are now. But this isn't the rigth place to upgrade them. There are already a lot of discussion about other upgrades now.
  31. Luck100

    Marvel Comics: Possible Yggdrasil Upgrade - Part 4

    Same with ReshRech 2. And there are a lot of things to futhers upgrades now.
  32. Luck100

    Marvel Comics: Possible Yggdrasil Upgrade - Part 3

    Fortunately, it's only a matter of time before Thor has his 1-A key. There are already futher information about the nauture of the Gods that's scale to Yggdrasil (Axis mundi) and many more to come in this thread.
  33. Luck100

    Marvel Ares Upgrade

    Didn't Ares beat Nate Grey one time ?
  34. Luck100

    Jane Foster Thor vs Galacta

    Mighty Thor (2016) #12.
  35. Luck100

    Jane Foster Thor vs Galacta

    It's a cosmic level storm that Odin sealed in Mjolnir. That storm was strong enough to fight Odin for one week and slow down the phoenix force.
  36. Luck100

    Jane Foster Thor vs Galacta

    But Jane Foster have one advantage. The motherstorm that can fight skyfather levels.
  37. Luck100

    Marvel Comics: Possible Yggdrasil Upgrade - Part 3

    The upgrade will be accept ? We are discussing this upgrade for 3 weeks by now.
  38. Luck100

    Marvel Comics: Possible Yggdrasil Upgrade - Part 3

    Is better upgrade skyfathers later. This upgrade is already full of text.
  39. Luck100

    Eternity Seventh Cosmos 1-A upgrade

    Seems right the upgrade to me. Eternity and everybody that scale with it too.
  40. Luck100

    Marvel Comics: Possible Yggdrasil Upgrade - Part 3

    There are the statement of the shaper of World's about the events of silver surfer's and how he fell into obvilion (by the same writer of loki agent of asgard).
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