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  1. Gogogozoom7

    Cole Macgrath vs Alex Mercer

    Cole speed amps then vapes him due to having a massive ap advantage.
  2. Gogogozoom7

    Characters as Servants/Heroic Spirits! NEW!!!!

    Suprised this hasn't been said yet. Servant Berserker:The Doom Slayer
  3. Gogogozoom7

    Part II: Naruto LS statements

    Then dont be the one that decides to be illogical because of it.Let's argue within the bounds of this verse,and once again,leave other franchises out of this.
  4. Gogogozoom7

    Part II: Naruto LS statements

    Sigurd ''does'' have a point.But i'll unfollow this thread for now and just watch.
  5. Gogogozoom7

    Part II: Naruto LS statements

    Does someone really have to say it again?Leave other franchises out of this.
  6. Gogogozoom7

    Naruto's lightspeed statements and their consistency

    @M3X,if the attacks are launched at similar times,and hit the target at similar times,would that not mean the attacks are similar in speed?I thought you stated this thread wasn't for scaling before.Nonetheless,I have no need to state that to Damage because people have actually provided examples...
  7. Gogogozoom7

    Naruto's lightspeed statements and their consistency

    To add a bit onto my post,I don't doubt that(if accepted) the Lariat is near lightspeed.
  8. Gogogozoom7

    Naruto's lightspeed statements and their consistency

    @M3X 1)Calm down. 2)The key words here are,other works,and magic.It's been repeatedly said to keep other franchises out of this thread,yet you insist on "they do it,so it applies here too".I don't know the context concerning what you've stated with Dragon Ball,it doesn't matter to this thread...
  9. Gogogozoom7

    Naruto's lightspeed statements and their consistency

    Ah,then it seems I was confused.It'd be best if it was removed from the OP then.
  10. Gogogozoom7

    Naruto's lightspeed statements and their consistency

    1)That hasn't been discussed much.At all. 2)Odd,I thought the anime was the secondary canon,and the databook was simply there to provide a bit of info on characters and techniques within the story.Along with some hyperbole and "hype text" here or there. 3)Did Damage's post just get completely...
  11. Gogogozoom7

    Naruto's lightspeed statements and their consistency

    @Rocker1189,Damage's post was meant to summarize the points.It makes it easier than having to scour the entire 300 post thread. I support @BlackeJan's proposal,as it seems were just moving in circles.
  12. Gogogozoom7

    Naruto's lightspeed statements and their consistency

    @BlackeJan,I suppose that's fair.Some staff do indeed have yet to add their input.
  13. Gogogozoom7

    Naruto's lightspeed statements and their consistency

    @M3X No offense intended,but this really sounds like your the only one getting personal about it.Take a bit of a break to calm down.
  14. Gogogozoom7

    Naruto's lightspeed statements and their consistency

    @Jvando 1)Yes,exactly,they were suprised by their sudden arrival.Although,it really isn't out of the question to assume they were,or atleast KaMuto,was blinded by the light of the transportation,which would provide reason enough for Ay to be capable of suprising KaMuto.Madara reacting to...
  15. Gogogozoom7

    Naruto's lightspeed statements and their consistency

    Were still on the topic concerning whether or not Madara reacted to Mabui's teleportation?While i've read through the heap of new comments in this thread,I was unaware of some information.My argument may seem a bit rushed,I just woke up. 1)Kabuto being inside Mu's body.Despite Kabuto being a...
  16. Gogogozoom7

    Naruto's lightspeed statements and their consistency

    We already know that Mabui moves things at lightspeeds with her teleportation.No need for a calc,I presume we'll just assume it's baseline.
  17. Gogogozoom7

    Naruto's lightspeed statements and their consistency

    Geryuganshoop's attacks were also stated to be near light speed.It got an atleast,which means above baseline to an unknown degree,but it still counts as baseline in that case.
  18. Gogogozoom7

    Naruto's lightspeed statements and their consistency

    Ah yes,quite the explanation.I must admit defeat in the face of such.
  19. Gogogozoom7

    Naruto's lightspeed statements and their consistency

    Well,may you explain your reason for agreeing?I assume you've been paying attention to the thread.
  20. Gogogozoom7

    Naruto's lightspeed statements and their consistency

    @Dzhindzholia Which feat are you referring to?
  21. Gogogozoom7

    Naruto's lightspeed statements and their consistency

    Then going off of the same standards,that would make the Lariat baseline Relativistic as well.To be specific on my stance,this is the only feat among the OP's listed that i'm agreeing towards.
  22. Gogogozoom7

    Naruto's lightspeed statements and their consistency

    If so,then I guess i'm ultimately neutral on this topic,leaning towards agreeing.
  23. Gogogozoom7

    Naruto's lightspeed statements and their consistency

    Really?No supporting feats or anything,just Murata saying they were near lightspeed and bad jokes in Saitama's eyes?
  24. Gogogozoom7

    Naruto's lightspeed statements and their consistency

    @TataHakai,thanks for the clear up.Would near lightspeed mean Rel or Sub-Rel? @Rocker1189,my general point is no feat at or near that time is near-light speed.It's an outlier among the other feats,even compared to some later feats,which is why i'm against using the statement of it being near...
  25. Gogogozoom7

    Naruto's lightspeed statements and their consistency

    @Rocker1189 Kirin comes one arc before the use of lariat,which is supposedly light speed.Quite a massive jump.And the only supposedly lightspeed "feat" for some time.The massive boosts of power occurs about four arcs after the use of Kirin.The characters feats displayed at this point don't...
  26. Gogogozoom7

    Naruto's lightspeed statements and their consistency

    Well,should a poll be made for,agreement or disagreement?
  27. Gogogozoom7

    Naruto's lightspeed statements and their consistency

    I'd appreciate it if you'd explain that.
  28. Gogogozoom7

    Naruto's lightspeed statements and their consistency

    @Rocker1189 I did not intend to nitpick you,but the "light-based-attacks" statement still stands. "what about placement",it comes a few arcs before the Fourth Great Ninja War,and even then,no lightspeed feats were explicitly shown.Minus the light fang,but that's a different story. "Also there...
  29. Gogogozoom7

    Naruto's lightspeed statements and their consistency

    "already reacted to light based attacks".The key words here are light-based-attacks.Not explicitly light-speed-attacks.
  30. Gogogozoom7

    Naruto's lightspeed statements and their consistency

    Admittedly,scaling would probably be fine. Nonetheless,what about it's placement in the story.What about Sasuke's Kirin?It's a single statement about a Jutsu being lightspeed,among several other much lower feats.
  31. Gogogozoom7

    Naruto's lightspeed statements and their consistency

    @DarkDragonMedeus Agreed.What i'm refuting currently is lightspeed lariat. Maybe there's some other way to calc lariats speed,rather than relying on a statement from a dubious source.Said statement would mess with scaling,it's also contradictory for it's place in the story.
  32. Gogogozoom7

    Naruto's lightspeed statements and their consistency

    Then why does ichigo take nine hours to travel to SS from SK palace deposited being relativistic. It is called travel speed Vs combat speed. As you know. It does not matter how they do it. The point is one is consistent long distance movement the other one is short distance combat based...
  33. Gogogozoom7

    Naruto's lightspeed statements and their consistency

    Ah.I was unaware we were still on the Raikage's supposed light-speed lariats.I had refuted that in my rundown,so i'll repost it. "Your quote of Ay's lightspeed lariat is from the guidebooks.A source from which we got quotes such as Universal Temari,Universe slicing Susanoo,or Planet-Cleaving...
  34. Gogogozoom7

    Naruto's lightspeed statements and their consistency

    Do explain which feat you are referring to.
  35. Gogogozoom7

    Naruto's lightspeed statements and their consistency

    Yes,exactly that.Which would warrent somwhat of an upgrade for Ay and Tsunade.If so,they scale towards Muu and this version of Madara's speed. If you meant rushing towards the enemy as in they knocked the two back mid transport,im afraid that's gonna be a no.
  36. Gogogozoom7

    Naruto's lightspeed statements and their consistency

    "Travel Speed=/= Combat Speed".This is correct. "It is impossible for Tsunade and Ay to suprise Madara and Muu.Mainly because they are sensors.This is a legitimate feat." This is also correct,yet,that's what they did.Instead of it being proof for Light speed or so Madara,this would rather be a...
  37. Gogogozoom7

    Naruto's lightspeed statements and their consistency

    1) and 2)Do note,Ay is no slouch when it comes to speed in his base form.No,Ay doesn't need an upgrade in my opinion,seeing as Mu was simply suprised.Mu was capable of reacting to KCM Naruto,yet he was blindsided by Ay.Might this scene be capable of being chalked up as Plot-Induced Stupidity?Muu...
  38. Gogogozoom7

    Naruto's lightspeed statements and their consistency

    Ah,I see.So they were sent towards the battlefield some short ways away from Madara and Muu.Thank you,i'll give my input on your post soon.
  39. Gogogozoom7

    Naruto's lightspeed statements and their consistency

    Doesn't the jutsu send them towards the ground?Is it that farfetched to assume that the moment they landed,and going off of the sudden light it appears that they landed quite close,they simply jumped off of the ground and towards Madara and Muu?I'm not against the Jutsu being lightspeed as of...
  40. Gogogozoom7

    Naruto's lightspeed statements and their consistency

    Wait-not hype text?I thought the presence of exclamation points within the showing made it clear to be some form of hype or hyperbole.There's even the giant hype text of it on the side of the page.
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