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He didn't say anybody would for sure win. So still, what's your point. Oh also, as I mentioned in the other thread. Your arguments are running thin. So I'm ending it here.
??? Once again. How many times do I have to tell you you're just wrong. Sans does not inherently ignore durability. I don't know why you think his bones alone ignora durability, otherwise, Papyrus would probably be able to do the same. Karmic retribution ignores dura and gives soul poison. Look...
I'm going to stop here since the only argument is "make a crt" and none of my other arguments have been disproved except for kr doing damage regardless of sins. I won't exactly make a content revision, rather then a topic questioning it. Final vote is for Smeargle.
@Risci-viragosi
No. Karma is what LET'S HIM DO 40 HP. Karma is literally what Sans attacks with. It lets him ignore dura and leave a soul poison. Simple.
@Noahkaismith
Still a strawman as you didn't even respond to my argument, and brought up a completely different soul manipulation for no...
How to prove my point:
"Omnipresent (This is technically a state of being, rather then a speed statistic, but have consequences to combat similar to that of a speed statistic.)
@Risci-viragosi
..... No. Kr is literally what lets him ignore duability and poison your soul. Why do you think he can do 40 (actually 30) hp a second?
@Noahkaismith
Strawman argument. You said karma is irrelevant and then bring up soul manipulation for some reason.
"make a crt" is not an argument, and obviously it hasn't been discuseed here. You can't just say "Oh, well it's been discussed several times in ALL arguments regarding this character" and expect that to be enough. If you don't feel like repeating them, then why are you even here.
How do you equalize being everywhere at once. You can't. Omnipresence isn't speed. It's just treated as speed due to how it's used in combat. You can't equalize a state of being. Sorry.
Yeah, but you haven't disproved anything. Your go to argument is "make a cr if you disagree", since you can't seem to disprove it yourself. You don't even have an argument in this post. You didn't debunk anything in my last comment. Even if I am wrong, if you can't disprove what I say, what...
I'm cool with that, but it's not like the fanmade concept doesn't have some weight, seeing as even the game makes KR stronger the higher your LV is. I probably have to make a CRT to go any further with it though.
I'm done here. I'm just repeating myself at this point. If ditto didn't have at least some knowledge of the powers he had, a training having his ditto transform into an "Arcanine" and having it use "Flamethrower" wouldn't work at all.
Also Sans with more hp>Sans.
I've clearly explained why...
I'm cool with the wiki thing, but that's no reason for my vote to be ignored because I've presented other perfectly valid points that you're just ignoring at this point.
Also. What are you talking about? Omnipresence isn't actually speed, it's just treated as speed in combat since it's used...
1. Do you not understand context? "our reports showed a massive anmaly in the timespace continuum, timelines jumping left and right, stopping and starting, until suddenly everything ends"
If everything ended, Timelines wouldn't be able to start and stop, or jump left to right. He's saying...
Wrong. Literally look up the wiki. Kr is the poison and the ignoring invincibility frames. KR is literally what Sans attacks with. So if his kr is low, then he's not doing shit. Also, once again, Quick Attack isn't speed per se, as it is a movement. Also, like I said, he'd be able to blitz...
Did you not read my comment? He started off with that attack because it worked. He had long since came up with a strategy to fight Frisk. He's just put into a vs battle vs Ditto, so starting off with his strongest attack could very well be the death of him. Once again, there's no reason to...
Okay, I'm not one for cheap shots, but please grammar and spell check. Now hopping into it; what exactly was this reply?
"He wasn't trying to stop you. He only fought you because all the timelines came to a stop and he couldn't let that happen."
This is just wrong. First of all "all" the...
Dude, this is not his fight vs Frisk. He's fighting an enemy he's knows nothing about. There's NO reason to believe he'd start off with that EXACT same attack in a fight. By your logic, he'd start off with the same attack EVERY fight. Which is absurd to believe. I think you're imagining the...
Um, I don't think you understand. Quick attack is an attack that is very fast. It's a technique, it doesn't actually increase Pikachu's speed. Otherwise, quick attack let's him blitz Arceus and would give him immeasurable speeds. Besides, by your logic, teleportation wouldn't matter since speed...
This is just wrong. Why else would it be called Karmic Retribution? Is hot sauce called hot sauce because it's cold? Is Papyrus called Papyrus because he's Asgore? Karmic retribution is dependant on the sins you've committed. That's the absolute ONLY reason it did so much to Chara. What you...
Sans only really uses two forms of combat, Gaster Blasters and bones. So as long as Smeargle can lock one down he's good, although he'll probably have better luck with Gaster Blasters.
Dude, what don't you understand about something called karmic retribution. His damage is literally dependant on the sins you've committed, and as I explained earlier, Ditto doesn't committ much, if any. Also, why are you applying his game here? This is a Vs. battle. So why would you think he's...
Uh? Speed blitz via quick attack? Did you not read? I'll give you that point on Sans Teleporting, but how is he one shotting Pikachu at ALL. Kr literally is KR. It acts as poison to anyone who sins a lot. That's the only really he was able to beat Chara, but ignoring durability. So he's barely...
Just noticing I see you a lot. But no, it actually wouldn't even take a long time. In a fight I imagine this would take around 30-45 seconds at the absolute wanked max. Besides, how is Sans doing any damage to Smeargle? Smeargle isn't a sinful Pokemon. I'd like to remind you Chara was a being of...
I'm going with Smeargle. Smeargle can literally just sketch+imprison and Sans is done. The only way Sans wins is if we use "it's a wild animal" argument, which has never been used for battles put on its profiles, so I don't see why this is different. Sans usually loses battles vs Pokemon because...
Pikachu via speed blitz by quick attack and discharge which likely has enough range to hit. We don't know how much Sans damage would do, but according to ingame dex entries, Pikachu is a social Pokemon. So it's probably not dangerous/evil, and even if it was, that would just be it's natural...
@Ricsi-viragosi
It doesn't really matter if it gets technique. It's not like Sans has godly techniques or anything. His attacks literally just him throwing bones at you, him throwing you at bones, and then dragon things attacking you. Besides, Ditto gets his stats + keeps his hp, so as long as...
If it's too much to read my bad. But in my defense it takes about a minute a most. But if you're physically angered by text then I'll stop. (Seriously.)
Calm down buddy. Just a debate on fictional characters. Regardless, I'll admit my mistakes with the speed equal and the better time stop. The Time stop thing does apply to both characters.
"Yeah do know Reality Overwrite has multiversal+ range that-" Stop. "Multiversal+ range" is not enough to...
"Half that hax is utterly useless". Gonna have to disagree for reasons below.
"No that's not how that works. Dio has time travel and attacking through time too, moot point. And time paradox immunity (which is current acasual listing was covering.)"
??? I think you missed the point. My point...
I'm still leaning towards AoC because of the amount of hax he has. Also, doesn't AoC being omnipresent negate Reality Overwrite as going back in time wouldn't really matter? Even if it doesn't, the only argument I received against Power Null was ">Power Null" which explains nothing at all. HA...
When Ditto transforms he acquires all of the enemies techniques and powers. He might not be able to use them as well, but as seen in the manga, anime, and if you want to include it, game, Ditto is more then capable of landing at least one hit on Sans. Also, what's to say that Ditto can't...