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Yeah, that seems about right.
How much power Karn may have lost in the Mending isn't really something I know (I'm not sure if we ever go into detail about it).
Then again, since Karn absorbed part of the Weatherlight, shouldn't the collapsed Serra's Realm still be inside of him? Would that...
From what I can tell...
We're reaching levels of Waifu close to the levels of Cinnamon Swirls in every bite of Cinnamon Toast Crunch. This shouldn't be possible...!
That's the vibe I'm getting from this thread
Too many unknowns, and I think it really just boils down to Asriel's mental integrity (thus his resistance to Bolas's Touch).
Also, yeah. Bolas uses 3 Black Lotus, Hardcasts himself, then uses his -2 on Asriel, taking control of him. Duh.
I'm not referring to the meditation plane with Tetsuo. I'm referring to the place he retreated to during the madaran rift.
Bolas said that he created a place where to go in case of the Multiverse collapses. He left there after closing the Madaran rift. This place thus must have been outside the...
I don't know about Jace being able to access anyone's mind in the multiverse, and I don't know about Jace being on Prime Bolas's level either.
Prime Bolas far outclasses Jace at any point in his history. To compare him to Jace would be an insult... to Bolas. ;)
Regardless, having the body and...
Keep in mind, too, that even after this, Bolas eventually came back to life. (Thus, Prime Bolas does have a Regenerationn feat.)
[Keep in mind that "keep in mind" is something I overuse :p ]
Also, "that gem" keeps getting thrown around. Are we talking about the Gem of Becoming that Bolas has...
I'm pretty sure Asriel didn't annihilate Frisk, considering that, despite dying during their fight, they just immediately revived.
Keep in mind this is PRIME pre-mending Bolas, not post-mending or post-Conflux Bolas. Pre-mending Bolas was very powerful.
Nicol Bolas has plans for everything...
I think we've reached somewhat of a conclusion.
Some High 2-As (given proper hax) and most 1-Cs should be able to perma-defeat Frisk with Max DN.
Any objections to that?
The issue is tha all of the Unsealed PokeGods are at least Low 2-C. We don't know for certain how for up or down they are the multi-dimensional ladder simply because, for what they are, they have a relative lack of feats.
Ugin and Bolas, when they fought, were/are approximate equals. Bolas just happened to win their fight.
The more I think about it, the more I think Prime Bolas could stand a chance. It depends on how much Bolas's touch can do to Frisk.
Perhaps Phyrexia as a whole could defeat Frisk over time by...
Bolas having his gem now doesn't matter because technically, now-Bolas is post-mending Bolas, which isn't Prime Bolas (thoug he did regain some amount of power thanks to his Conflux shenanegans).
Bolas and Asriel are both somewhat good at the whole Time thing, yes - Bolas was good enough at...
The fact that there was still a brood for Gideon to fight should be evident enough (if we go by Ugin's hand metaphor - it should tell us pretty handily that they weren't dragged all the way into the pond of Zendikar), but not even that can overcome bad writing.
That being said, yeah, maybe...
Though one of the verses I'm better-versed in is the MtG-verse. Through that, it's *possible* that Kozilek proper, or Emrakul Proper would be able to defeat them by virtue of warping reality (in the sense that their presence disorts the natural laws of the world a la Bill Cipher) - Emrakul and...
I don't really know, I'm not that well versed in all of fiction. I just know a few things here and there... and decided to post a bit after being just a lurker for a little while.
I assume that, to defeat Frisk (for good), a High 2-A would need to find a way to override Frisk's de facto...
Logically anything six-dimensional or higher should be able to defeat Frisk, given that Frisk tanked attacks from Asriel (implied to be 5D) but couldn't hurt him back - implying that Frisk against most 2-As results in a stalemate of some sort.
Thus, low 1-C, in order to be higher-dimensional...