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  1. Risingflame12

    Final Fantasy XIII tier 1, explanations and other things

    So is this an upgrade yes or no..?
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    Why isn't DB Kai used for scaling DBZ and Super?

    @Antvasima Again just because its your standard doesnt mean its correct.
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    Why isn't DB Kai used for scaling DBZ and Super?

    It seems most of the arguments can be boiled down to , well it has filler and parts arent in the manga so we jump to the conclusion that its diverting from the show. Even though again as I touched up on some of these fillers explain key plot points in the show that the manga didnt even touch up...
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    Why isn't DB Kai used for scaling DBZ and Super?

    When I already addressed the filler not even diverging from the anime. The only one that diverges was Hell but that was retconned. As these so called fillers do contribute to the canon story as stated before gohan going SSJ2 and vegeta going SSJ offering an explanation on how they achived these...
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    Why isn't DB Kai used for scaling DBZ and Super?

    Could you explain how it diverts from the main storyline.I already pointed out how hell was retconned anyways.
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    Why isn't DB Kai used for scaling DBZ and Super?

    @Dust Collecter No they retconned that, I mentioned that piror. Hell was also changed in DBS as well. Its a simple retcon,I mentioned it in my piror points. Nobody seemed to even read it.
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    Why isn't DB Kai used for scaling DBZ and Super?

    Did you not read my point? The filler DB kai is canon to the story line, you also unironcally scale DBS which is connected to the DBZ manga, and it mentions kai in its flash backs. I don't think you really read my points. Hell you can arguement sums up to its not in the manga so its non canon...
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    Why isn't DB Kai used for scaling DBZ and Super?

    Again, doesnt matter its still canon to the storyline that is present. I think you're missing the point any filler that is present is canon to the present story line. https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2009-03-02/toei-confirms-dragon-ball-kai-is-edited-to-follow-manga Like its purpose is...
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    Why isn't DB Kai used for scaling DBZ and Super?

    Kai is also following the orignal manga as well..so why would only certain clips be canon to super when DB kai follows the orignal manga entierly.
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    Why isn't DB Kai used for scaling DBZ and Super?

    Again the arguements stems form the illogical reason to dismiss kai as a source for scaling, cause its canon to super which Super is connected to the main timeline. I mentioned the vice shout as an example of filler being canon to the storyline that is present.
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    Why isn't DB Kai used for scaling DBZ and Super?

    That would only be for DBS manga and Anime as the events are radiaclly different compared to eachother. Kai's filler merely support the arc as Buu was stated that he would destroy the universe and the vice shout supports the arguement as it gives us a solid feat. We have goku admitting that...
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    Why isn't DB Kai used for scaling DBZ and Super?

    @Pachi2 When Kai adapts the manga, its illogical to dismiss kai for no reason as we have the manga. Dbs is part of the main story line ans it uses kai so no. Its just as relevent as a source as the manga
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    Why isn't DB Kai used for scaling DBZ and Super?

    Yet DBS uses clips from kai. The differences in the manga are merely canon filler. Asides hell and pikkon they all just serve a purpose. Dbs is part of the main continuity it pretry much references kai by using it scenes as flash backs. So.. it would be connected to the manga
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    Why isn't DB Kai used for scaling DBZ and Super?

    https://youtu.be/a7R3jvV3FwM Uhhh...No its the same clip.Voice acting is the same, GT is the only one that changes dialouge from the orginal.
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    Why isn't DB Kai used for scaling DBZ and Super?

    So, I just wanted to know why DB kai isnt used as a source for scaling DB characters like even super uses kai clips and DB Kai is also edited to follow the original DB Manga as all the filler was cut out sides the filler that is cannon to the storyline I.E Buuhan vice shout. Hell was also...
  16. Risingflame12

    Sonic (Archie) Vs Thanos (Marvel + Infinity gauntlet)

    Theres no evidence that its an outlier.
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    Sonic (Archie) Vs Thanos (Marvel + Infinity gauntlet)

    Im pretty sure thanos negged eterinity with the IG. Im pretty sure Eternity>the entire archie sonic verse.
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    Jiren, UI Goku, ASSJB Vegeta and Hakaishin Toppo Upgrade to 2-C?

    Pretty much, I misread something lel
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    Jiren, UI Goku, ASSJB Vegeta and Hakaishin Toppo Upgrade to 2-C?

    All I am arguing that Jiren overall is stronger than any version of astral zamasu.
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    Jiren, UI Goku, ASSJB Vegeta and Hakaishin Toppo Upgrade to 2-C?

    @Megamangohan Understandable. Misread that breh.
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    Jiren, UI Goku, ASSJB Vegeta and Hakaishin Toppo Upgrade to 2-C?

    I just noticed that Merged Zamasus Page has him at 2-C just wanted to add in that characters that scale directly above Merged Zamasu should be upgraded to 2-C. So looking at Zamasus page this is what makes him around 2-C.. would eventually become Low Multiverse level (As stated by both Gowasu...
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