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  1. Narutouchiha95

    Mushoku Tensei Discussion Thread

    Kalman II was in the past, he currently beats Eris 7 times out of 10, the same Eris that Gal Farion says is at his level and she is capable of damaging, albeit slightly, the armor of the fighting god. And since we're talking about Atofe, Rudeus made a easy win of her with some of his stone...
  2. Narutouchiha95

    Mushoku Tensei Discussion Thread

    Even taking Orsted out of the equation, Rudeus can still damage with his magic at god levels (Kalman III, Kalman II, Reida, Randolph, etc.) Which already gives him god level.
  3. Narutouchiha95

    Mushoku Tensei Discussion Thread

    We already discussed this before and it just doesn't make sense since there are god-class that can't harm Orsted and Rudeus can. There is more evidence though, like Rudeus being able to damage other god-levels with his magic.
  4. Narutouchiha95

    Mushoku Tensei Discussion Thread

    Regular cannon of Rudeus can make something of damage to Orsted. This spell of the big meteor is stronger than regular cannon
  5. Narutouchiha95

    Mushoku Tensei Discussion Thread

    You mean the 1km boulder he threw at Orsted? If the author gave him a saint/imperial level or something similar, then the author is at it again with his scaling issues. As you can see in the scale, Young Man Rudeus is already a god level in his magic for damaging Orsted. No one outside of the...
  6. Narutouchiha95

    Mushoku Tensei Discussion Thread

    The calc is accepted? to add it to the tier scale
  7. Narutouchiha95

    Mushoku Tensei Discussion Thread

    Nothing says that emperors aren't close to continental level. Although I think continentals are the highest god levels and the average is quite a bit below.
  8. Narutouchiha95

    Mushoku Tensei Discussion Thread

    Where does it come from that Perugius is a saint level offensive magic? And we don't have anything to scale him physically beyond being a rival for Atofe or at first stronger than his spirits? Kalman I scales to the Atofe level
  9. Narutouchiha95

    Mushoku Tensei Discussion Thread

    Is it said at any point that Kalman II when he had the sword was superior to Kalman III when he had the sword?
  10. Narutouchiha95

    Mushoku Tensei Discussion Thread

    I'm back from my vacation and I've seen that no one has commented on the feats I posted. Well, I'm updating the tier now and with this I think I'll finish my contributions for now. Well people, I proceed to update the scale with the data from volume 23, 24, 25 and 26: TIER LIST Orsted FP =...
  11. Narutouchiha95

    Mushoku Tensei Discussion Thread

    Very sad I also think that there are some missing feats, but due to statements and the fight with Kalman III I have to put it above. Now I will update it with a small change regarding Atof, Eris, etc. What was previously commented Ok. In my headcanon es: MK1 = Orsted 10% MK0 = Orsted 20%...
  12. Narutouchiha95

    Mushoku Tensei Discussion Thread

    I'm back from my vacation and I've seen that no one has commented on the feats I posted. Well, I'm updating the tier now and with this I think I'll finish my contributions for now. Well people, I proceed to update the scale with the data from volume 23, 24, 25 and 26: TIER LIST Orsted FP =...
  13. Narutouchiha95

    Mushoku Tensei Discussion Thread

    Here are some feats and info from several volumes of Mushoku Tensei: VOLUME 23 Chapter 2 .- Sieghard very strong for a baby. Capable of breaking the finger bones of an adult by squeezing them Chapter 6 .- Gino is the current god of the sword Chapter 7 .- Rudeus obtains distant vision by...
  14. Narutouchiha95

    Mushoku Tensei Discussion Thread

    Well people, I proceed to update the scale with the data from volume 20, 21 and 22: TIER LIST Orsted FP = Universal/Planet Max of Paul´s Short Sword Orsted = Dragon God Fighting God = Dragon God Laplace Laplace = Technique God Mirai Old Rudeus Aqua Hartia Water (x5) Young Man Rudeus Aqua...
  15. Narutouchiha95

    Mushoku Tensei Discussion Thread

    Here are some feats and info from volume 22 of Mushoku Tensei: Chapter 7 .- Calina is a king rank swordswoman .- Calina can sense when an attack is going to kill her in advance .- Eris blitzes Calina with the sword of light .- Auber, Nina and Isolte far superior to Calina, they could react to...
  16. Narutouchiha95

    Mushoku Tensei Discussion Thread

    Here are some feats and info from volume 21 of Mushoku Tensei: Chapter 3 .- The blessed girl can see someone's memories just by looking into their eyes .- The new guardian knights are advanced level .- Therese is an intermediate level swordswoman .- Funeral Procession, one of the guardian...
  17. Narutouchiha95

    Mushoku Tensei Discussion Thread

    Here are some feats and info from volume 20 of Mushoku Tensei: Chapter 3 .- Cliff considers Rudeus a divine level magician or close to that .- Cliff knows advanced divine magic Intermediate Chapters .- Nina is officially a sword king .- Norn reaches intermediate rank in sword Chapter 5 .-...
  18. Narutouchiha95

    Mushoku Tensei Discussion Thread

    I agree
  19. Narutouchiha95

    Mushoku Tensei Discussion Thread

    I remember that the word make damage to orsted similar to the stonne cannon make. Anyway, how the weapon works makes as strong as the higher durability
  20. Narutouchiha95

    Mushoku Tensei Discussion Thread

    I will put: Rudeus/Paul Magic Sword > Orsted
  21. Narutouchiha95

    Mushoku Tensei Discussion Thread

    Please review the rest of the scale carefully and tell me what things need to be corrected for this point. So that I don't have to modify everything at the end if there is a problem.
  22. Narutouchiha95

    Mushoku Tensei Discussion Thread

    If we take that route I would give him at least Orsted's level since he is the one who has the toughest defense and therefore, the sword would affect him the most.
  23. Narutouchiha95

    Mushoku Tensei Discussion Thread

    Im not sure... is a hax ability. This sword can damage more if the durability is higher. Even i remember damaging Orsted in the fight. I will not give it a specify tier
  24. Narutouchiha95

    Mushoku Tensei Discussion Thread

    My range for Perugius is to be at minimum equal to Atofe and maximum weaker than Reida. About Kalman...we don´t have by volume 19 much about how scale them
  25. Narutouchiha95

    Mushoku Tensei Discussion Thread

    I think Perugius is weaker than Reida xd About Urupen.. really by now only we know is the weaker dragon god but nothing more
  26. Narutouchiha95

    Mushoku Tensei Discussion Thread

    Well people, I proceed to update the scale with the data from volume 18 and 19. TIER LIST Orsted FP = Universal/Planet Orsted = Dragon God Fighting God = Dragon God Laplace Laplace = Technique God Mirai Old Rudeus Aqua Hartia Water (x5) Young Man Rudeus Aqua Hartia Water (x5) Mirai Old Rudeus...
  27. Narutouchiha95

    Mushoku Tensei Discussion Thread

    Here are some feats and info from volume 19 of Mushoku Tensei: Chapter 2: .- Zanoba is naturally weak to fire magic .- Orsted has an armor that makes you immune to fire when worn it. Rudeus gives this armor to Zanoba .- Rudeus makes Zanoba a huge, super-strong club .- Rudeus gives Zanoba a Net...
  28. Narutouchiha95

    Mushoku Tensei Discussion Thread

    That was already mentioned previously and is quickly invalidated since Badigadi is introduced and how the battle aura works.
  29. Narutouchiha95

    Mushoku Tensei Discussion Thread

    I don't know if I understood you correctly or not, but are you arguing that Rudeus should not have AP God level? As for Reida...Orsted wasn't even using a technique, unless it was mentioned in the volume, he was simply saying that he deflected cuts with her bare hands. And it is explicitly...
  30. Narutouchiha95

    Mushoku Tensei Discussion Thread

    Here are some feats and info from volume 18 of Mushoku Tensei: Chapter 0 .- Rudeus reaches the holy level in fire, wind, healing and detoxification magic .- Rudeus reaches the intermediate level in divine magic Chapter 1 .- Rudeus with the new armor capable of stopping a 10 meter long lizard...
  31. Narutouchiha95

    Mushoku Tensei Discussion Thread

    Well people, I proceed to update the scale with the data from volume 16 and 17. TIER LIST Orsted FP = Universal/Planet Orsted = Dragon God Fighting God = Dragon God Laplace Technique God Mirai Old Rudeus Aqua Hartia Water (x5) Young Man Rudeus Aqua Hartia Water (x5) Mirai Old Rudeus Aqua...
  32. Narutouchiha95

    Mushoku Tensei Discussion Thread

    Here are some feats and info from volume 17 of Mushoku Tensei: Chapter 1: .- King level magic can heal lost limbs Chapter 2: .- Zariff's gloves are equipped with magic absorption gem .- Wi Taa is a north king .- Wi Taa capable of fighting Ghislaine and making her retreat with light tricks .-...
  33. Narutouchiha95

    Mushoku Tensei Discussion Thread

    I seem to remember that there are differences in terms of durability and the mana they consume, but I'll get there
  34. Narutouchiha95

    Mushoku Tensei Discussion Thread

    Its never said that Rudeus in volumen 6 is king tier. A least i don´t remember it
  35. Narutouchiha95

    Mushoku Tensei Discussion Thread

    Rudeus with an attack far more powerful than the one that injured Orsted is emperor level, which contradicts everything.
  36. Narutouchiha95

    Mushoku Tensei Discussion Thread

    Not really. The real big difference is whether or not Rudeus is intermediate as a swordsman and whether he harm Orsted, which at this point is more of an inconsistency.
  37. Narutouchiha95

    Mushoku Tensei Discussion Thread

    I don't think it's a bad idea to combine them if in the end aqua hartia is taken into account anyway. The real big difference was that one was close to intermediate level as a swordsman and by volume 6 he already is. Of ghislaine and Badigadi being comparable, yes. It was clear from the...
  38. Narutouchiha95

    Mushoku Tensei Discussion Thread

    Ok Perfect Okay. It was simply to not overload the description. ok.
  39. Narutouchiha95

    Mushoku Tensei Discussion Thread

    I'm not going to update the powerscaling scale yet, I'm going to wait for volume 17. But I think that if we consider Rudeus from volume 13 onwards as another key, some contradictions could be solved by giving him more power than Eris in his regular magic. Since it seems that the author has...
  40. Narutouchiha95

    Mushoku Tensei Discussion Thread

    To be more specific about the separation, guided by what we mentioned previously, I would leave it for now at something like this: Infancy: Volume 1-2 Juvenile: Volume 3-6 Youth: Volume 7-12 Young Man = Volume 13+ Magic Armor At this point I don't know if it's worth separating volume 3...
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