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  1. LoudCloud

    Earthbound Downgrades and minor revisions

    No, I'm not implying pre-melodies Ness was that tier because he needed the soundstone and melodies to create it.
  2. LoudCloud

    Earthbound Downgrades and minor revisions

    To re-evaluate Giygas' tier we should talk to the users who gave him his current tier. I remember there being a lot of discussion about it. As for Maria, I'd say 7-C seems too low but without much evidence (other than speculation) I'd say "Unknown, at least 7-C" is fair. Also, altough it won't...
  3. LoudCloud

    Heavy JoJo Revisions

    Alright, but I would think Speedwagon would remain at Supersonic.
  4. LoudCloud

    Earthbound Downgrades and minor revisions

    Magicant is far bigger than any of the towns in the game and even includes an underground area so yeah, I'd say 7-B is a good estimate. There is an official map of American (EBB's version of it) with a scale and we could use it to measure Magicant's size but idk if anyone wants to go through all...
  5. LoudCloud

    Heavy JoJo Revisions

    Well he should be far faster than a fodder zombie, who is supersonic, and dodging an explosion would only make him faster than that by a few multiples so I think it's reasonable. I'm just a little cautious of people getting into the habit of using character statements as literal feats.
  6. LoudCloud

    Earthbound Downgrades and minor revisions

    Done. Speaking of Earthbound characters, I think this is a good time to bring up two profiles that have been bugging me for a while. 1. Giygas/Giegue's profile puts him at Planet level during the events of EBB because he is "Capable of altering the entire earth with his presence alone, even...
  7. LoudCloud

    Heavy JoJo Revisions

    Can't the explosion statement just be an exaggeration/expression as is often the case?
  8. LoudCloud

    Earthbound Downgrades and minor revisions

    We came to the conclusion that the main EB cast (and the characters that scale from them) are Town level rather than City. This is because they can survive an enemy that blows up comparable to a nuke and "nuke" is realistically closer to Town level than City. The stuff about Buzz Buzz and the...
  9. LoudCloud

    Earthbound Downgrades and minor revisions

    When do we update the existing profiles? I could do them.
  10. LoudCloud

    Earthbound Downgrades and minor revisions

    Yeah, Town level. The first nukes developed were around that level and most of the ones with lower yields were usually prototypes or purposefully developed to be weaker. Plus, the game was developed in Japan so the comparison to Little Boy and Fat man is most likely.
  11. LoudCloud

    Earthbound Downgrades and minor revisions

    If it only yields as Large Building or lower, surely it'd just be better to use a Nuke's low-end yield instead to scale them to the Nuclear Reactor Robot? The guide book where the Nuke statement comes from was written and released alongside the game so I'd say it's accurate. It's also held to a...
  12. LoudCloud

    Verses with the Deepest Lore (per media)

    I've noticed how many Verses there are here with very expansive and detailed lore. So I decided to make a casual thread dedicated to discussing and comparing the Verses with the deepest lore per media type. These will be: Overall/Cross-over media: Western Comic books: Manga: Anime: Western...
  13. LoudCloud

    Heavy JoJo Revisions

    I've just thought about something that could upgrade Star Platinum that I don't think people have mentioned yet. Maybe I'm bending logic a bit here but... Whenever people calc Star Platinum breaking High Priestess' teeth, they usually only get around Small Building level. However, Star Platinum...
  14. LoudCloud

    Heavy JoJo Revisions

    I suppose so.
  15. LoudCloud

    Heavy JoJo Revisions

    I think some concluded stuff still needs some answers. - The Avdol scaling thing seems like weak reasoning to me. Him knowing DIO could kill him is no indicator of their Stands power-scaling for several reasons: 1. Avdol has no knowledge of how physically powerful the World is. In fact, he has...
  16. LoudCloud

    Various JoJo Questions (And the Scaling System)

    They didn't know DIO could stop time but they knew he had some sort of crazy hax. Silver Chariot might scale to Magician's Red but I don't recall a moment where this was clear. The only time I recall SC being burned by MR was right before it removed its armour to avoid the burns.
  17. LoudCloud

    Various JoJo Questions (And the Scaling System)

    Might have something to do with the fact that DIO's stand can stop time and it's not like Avdol had any proper knowledge of it anyway. I'm not sure if the group talk about Jotaro being top dog in power but that would've been in regards to physical strength (whereas MR attacks mostly with fire)...
  18. LoudCloud

    Can someone (clearly) explain Kirby's Dark Nebula feat to me?

    But that would only be evidence that his awakening effected the planet's atmosphere. We don't see any celestial bodies whatsoever being destroyed or effected. Fair enough if there are other fearts in the Kirby-verse around that level but that's all the more reason to use them rather than a...
  19. LoudCloud

    Can someone (clearly) explain Kirby's Dark Nebula feat to me?

    Exactly. Far more likely.
  20. LoudCloud

    Can someone (clearly) explain Kirby's Dark Nebula feat to me?

    Why would Nintendo put a flash of light to "censor" stuff? Don't think a handheld system has good enough visuals for us to see the alien genocides in the distance. And how excatly would showing solar systems after the flash = destroying solar systems during the flash? Seems far fetched and way...
  21. LoudCloud

    We Did It! 11,000 Pages!

    Yeah but how many of those pages are profiles for long-forgotten anime characters? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Just messing. Congratulations on all the work guys!
  22. LoudCloud

    Earthbound Downgrades and minor revisions

    I agree. I too questioned how City level would imply the "nuke" was an extreme highball. But because they were already rated City level when I edited their profiles, I left it. Scaling to Buzz Buzz seems ok. It's funny considering how easily Pokey's mom kills him later but you could explain...
  23. LoudCloud

    Can someone (clearly) explain Kirby's Dark Nebula feat to me?

    So seeing more galaxies = Galaxies were destroyed? As if the developers were thinking that.
  24. LoudCloud

    Various JoJo Questions (And the Scaling System)

    We should all keep in mind that Jojo is a verse where hax and ridiculously circumstancial strategies reign supreme in a fight, so we have to be cautious and very specific when powerscaling. We should try saying "Stand 1 took a direct punch from Stand 2" as opposed to just "Stand 1 fought Stand...
  25. LoudCloud

    Various JoJo Questions (And the Scaling System)

    ...with Red Bind and slowly starts to suffocate him. When SP is summoned he does choke MR, but that would only be comparing SP's AP to MR's durability* and not MR's AP. (*and MR's durabilty is only Large Building currently because it's supposed to scale to SP's AP, who gets it from scaling with...
  26. LoudCloud

    Various JoJo Questions (And the Scaling System)

    There seems to be a problem with that. You say DIO's physical durability should be the same as Jonathan's due to having the same body. But Jonathan gets his durability from scaling to Dio (part 1) who gets his stats because he's supposedly superior to DIO (part 3). That is circular reasoning...
  27. LoudCloud

    Threads being closed

    Maybe you are right. However, at that point I didn't really feel like carrying on with the thread (not that Reppuzan knew that) so no point in bringing it back. I just made this post to bring awareness to admins that threads should be closed because they are dismissed (when arguing to change...
  28. LoudCloud

    Various JoJo Questions (And the Scaling System)

    Yeah, I think we already accepted that. It also didn't help that Araki only started using them while writing part 5 and he's infamous for not remembering the details of his past work. He could've easily overlooked the feats and fights the stands from part 3-4 had and just made the rankings up as...
  29. LoudCloud

    Various JoJo Questions (And the Scaling System)

    Agreed on Hierophant Green (though he might have some better feats) and Polnareff. I think Jotaro mentioned that Hierophant Green only hurt SP because he wasn't focusing his stand properly and was coming into grips with using it (they also explained when fighting Avdol that you need to focus on...
  30. LoudCloud

    Threads being closed

    The thread I made was not to question any of the sites rules or information. That's what I'm trying to say. It was simply putting forward a "what if?" scenario that anyone could discuss. I understand admins have "to save time" by closing threads but that thread was only wasting the time of those...
  31. LoudCloud

    Threads being closed

    But you never had to keep the conversation going. You could leave as you saw fit. It wasn't a content revision thread, it was just something for people to give their own view on a scenario. I don't see why one person's indifference or boredom to a thread should mean it has to be closed.
  32. LoudCloud

    Threads being closed

    Thank you but there's really no need. It's left a bad taste in my mouth and I've lost interest in it. I was just trying to point out that adminx should be more careful about what threads they close when said threads are harmless.
  33. LoudCloud

    Threads being closed

    No it was a recent one and it was a different admin. https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/674969#38 Don't get me wrong, it wasn't a great thread by any means, but I don't see why it had to be closed because it failed to entertain an admin.
  34. LoudCloud

    Various JoJo Questions (And the Scaling System)

    I was always ready to admit that Part 4 had possible evidence of Jotaro's dura (which I wouldn't have been able to retaliate) but since people kept bringing up Part 3 stuff, I offered my counter-arguments to them. But it's obviously irrelevant now and I'm glad we can put that past us. Anyway...
  35. LoudCloud

    Threads being closed

    Honestly, I wouldn't usually care that much about a thread being suddenly closed. I know that admins have a reason to do so and it helps keep the wiki sane. I'm also not really pushing for my thread to be re-opened. I don't feel that strongly about it to demand I have it back. But I still feel...
  36. LoudCloud

    Various JoJo Questions (And the Scaling System)

    I've said multiple times that if Part 4 is really that relevant to justifying Jotaro's durability that you can feel free to dismiss me. But since people kept insisting that Part 3 had enough evidence to justify it, I carried on arguing. People kept saying wrong stuff about the fight with Anubis...
  37. LoudCloud

    Character with vastly more AP/Durabilty vs Character with vastly more Speed

    But a tired Power character is still durable enough to not be killed (provided the gap is big enough). A tired speed character can always be tired enough to no longer be fast enough to dodge attacks. Compare a fatigued human in terms of speed and durabilty. Their speed can decrease so much as...
  38. LoudCloud

    Various JoJo Questions (And the Scaling System)

    Jotaro wouldn't scale to Anubis directly because he relied on SP to block Anubis' attack. Polnareff doesn't scale to Anubis (the version Jotaro fought) because that version was possesing Silver Chariot and making it stronger, as opposed to the version of Anubis Polnareff fought which was...
  39. LoudCloud

    Various JoJo Questions (And the Scaling System)

    No, I understand know. It's pretty clear that Jotaro taking hits from strong stands is something that happens multiple times. I was just questioning if Jotaro taking hits from the World is an outlier when usually he's hurt by far weaker stuff (in Part 3 at least).
  40. LoudCloud

    Character with vastly more AP/Durabilty vs Character with vastly more Speed

    I don't see how Wall-level AP hits would eventually add up to harm a Planet-level being, but sure? My original point though was if both character were actively trying to kill each other. The Speed character would eventualy fatigue from unsucessful attacks and leave themselves vunerable, whereas...
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