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  1. Gaaraofthedesert801

    Smite Revisions?

    Not to mention the amount of low 2-C scaling far outweighs any reasoning for 4-A. And it's to the point I'm starting to sound like a broken record even to myself. XD but it's the scale that I view as far more consistent with more evidence, feats, statements, and logic backing it. Ok, Ark, pls...
  2. Gaaraofthedesert801

    Smite Revisions?

    Fair enough. I usually prefer the guardians, mages, and hunters myself. I've had...not the best results with warriors and assassins.
  3. Gaaraofthedesert801

    Smite Revisions?

    They don't just scale to Olorun. They also scale from Neith who herself is a low 2-C character from having weaved the universe into existence. Athena and Mercury were shown to be on a generally even power as a UNIVERSE MAKER. And from there you scale gods who scale from Athena and Mercury. Ares...
  4. Gaaraofthedesert801

    Smite Revisions?

    Just a shame you and I don't agree on which system should replace it lol. But such is the nature of vs debating. And he doesn't? Was just saying I'd like to see one of him. Camazotz was one of my most wanted gods before his release. I mean a giant death bat who is a lord of the underworld? BADASS!
  5. Gaaraofthedesert801

    Smite Revisions?

    Something they don't REALLY elaborate on is that Thoth and Ra are technically brothers and Thoth is technically a god of the moon, opposite of Ra. Huh. The smite page doesn't link to those oddly enough. Granted said profiles are very much outdated anyways so they would likely need a change...
  6. Gaaraofthedesert801

    Smite Revisions?

    Well she is the goddess of magic, but Thoth taught her stuff even she didn't know, and he wrote the literal book on the secrets, sciences, and magics of the universe. The Book of Thoth, aka the book of the dead, among the most powerfuk artifacts in the verse for sure. Wait really? I checked and...
  7. Gaaraofthedesert801

    Smite Revisions?

    Ah lol. Personally idk jack about making pages for this wiki. Or wikis in general ^^; And hmmm that does make sense. One of those abilities isna pseudo black hole. I'm sure there is more but yeah. Merlin is pretty much the sorcerer supreme of Smite lol, with the only competition being Thoth...
  8. Gaaraofthedesert801

    Smite Revisions?

    Just be careful which ones you do before a vote is done lol. Would hate yo see you work on them in a certain way, then be forced to change them depending on how the votes turn out. Also Merlin is definitely one of the most versatile. Telepathy, bfr, sealing magic, teleportation, ice, fire...
  9. Gaaraofthedesert801

    Smite Revisions?

    So...what do we do till then?
  10. Gaaraofthedesert801

    Smite Revisions?

    I just hope Bambu will come back soon so we can get a new thread and a vote going.
  11. Gaaraofthedesert801

    Smite Revisions?

    Which is why I made a compromise between the two systems. His system is very flawed and invites a lot of inconsistencies and downplay. But I get low 2-C is hard to be applied to everyone who can't be properly scaled yet until their proper appearance in the story or some form of statement is made...
  12. Gaaraofthedesert801

    Smite Revisions?

    Fine I'll wait. But I hope you understand why I'm very much against that system.
  13. Gaaraofthedesert801

    Smite Revisions?

    It isn't just some inconsistencies though. I can label dozens of inconsistencies that the system would cause. And I never said anyone said the system was perfect, I'm just saying it has far too many flaws to be an acceptable system. Way too many gods would be seriously downplayed in that system...
  14. Gaaraofthedesert801

    Smite Revisions?

    Ok, but Jormungandr isn't the only case where that system's flaws are pretty obvious. 7-A king arthur? He did the MOST damage to Jormungandr. 4-C Hel? Hera STRUGGLED against Hel one on one, and Hel was among the trio of "star level gods" who murdered pantheon head Zeus. What about Ymir? It took...
  15. Gaaraofthedesert801

    Smite Revisions?

    Actually, I will say more. So now say Jormungandr is demoted to star level for not being a pantheon head. Pantheon heads are still low 2-C by your supposed scale. Are you telling me that, it takes Odin, Ra, Hera all pantheon heads, Merlin, Arthur who would by this system be a 7-A, Argus who...
  16. Gaaraofthedesert801

    Smite Revisions?

    A system I'm not exactly the biggest fan of. Feels a bit downplayish to me, especially for the god and nongods shown and implied to be on a similar scale to pantheon heads, even if to a lesser degree. Feels like disservice to those gods. So what? Is Jormungandr now only a star buster despite...
  17. Gaaraofthedesert801

    Smite Revisions?

    You mentioned my first idea lol, but it's cool.
  18. Gaaraofthedesert801

    Smite Revisions?

    No mention of the comprimise I also made? While I personally thing low 2-C is consistent, I get not everyone sees that and admittedly not EVERY character falls into the scaling yet. Many have been directly shown to scale, are implied to scale, such as several references to Hercules' battle with...
  19. Gaaraofthedesert801

    Smite Revisions?

    I'll be on look out for when it goes up. Though I still fail to see where the inconsistencies are tbh. But I do agree, we need more input.
  20. Gaaraofthedesert801

    Smite Revisions?

    I don't really see how low 2-C is bad when there is enough consistency for it. Granted, not EVERYONE is in the scaling chain YET. I just think its more consistent than 7, 4, 2. My proposal was to counter balance the fact not everyone can be scaled to low 2-C yet, even if it makes sense for all...
  21. Gaaraofthedesert801

    Smite Revisions?

    That....wasn't the compromise I had made. That compromise was SPECIFICALLY for characters who have yet to be in the story bound chain of scaling, Sol for example, who have no implied scaling or logical scaling, Such as Vulcan who should LOGICALLY scale with his brothers and sisters. As Sol, by...
  22. Gaaraofthedesert801

    Smite Revisions?

    Nothing in five hours? We need some more opinions besides just ours ffs! XD Anyways, while we wait, we can try and figure some characters out. Starting with Achilles. I'd put him in the "logical/implied" of scaling. His armor, which now covers his heel, and shield were god forged, by Vulcan who...
  23. Gaaraofthedesert801

    Smite Revisions?

    Except he isnt that interested in this particular topic anymore and just told us good luck. And no one else is talking besides us atm.
  24. Gaaraofthedesert801

    Smite Revisions?

    Talked to Bambu about it on discord. He didn't think it was really much of a compromise that fixed an issue.
  25. Gaaraofthedesert801

    Smite Revisions?

    To be fair....that immortality the gods have is kind of broken. Even if he didn't have much versatility....it takes either very specific skills or the removal of their worshiper base. Which mid battle can be easier said than done.
  26. Gaaraofthedesert801

    Smite Revisions?

    Yeah. Likely more so than even Jormungandr, Merlin, Olorun, Chronos, etc. ACTUALLY about that....Hi-Rez has stated Odin AND Bastet are likely getting reworks sometime late this season or next season. Odin will likely be getting more thematic stuff like rune magic.
  27. Gaaraofthedesert801

    Smite Revisions?

    Actually it's implied Bakasura just...comes back. Cause reasons. And yeha Ymir is primordial, though he clearly isn't as big as he used to be. And omg yes, Chaos needs to he in eventually. Would also like to see Maui. And we can only hope. It was the best idea I had.
  28. Gaaraofthedesert801

    Smite Revisions?

    Honestly if the timing between the Ao Kuang Neith thing were flipped, anf a couple other issues fixeed, one could likely slide this into the story. I mean it directly shows Arachne and Scylla as confident and capable of attacking gods. Just unfortunately....they attacked the god infamous for...
  29. Gaaraofthedesert801

    Smite Revisions?

    Oh, i wasn't trying to make things more complicated. Just felt this thing was way too inconsistent to be an actual part of the story and wanted to let perp know. Did you not read the other post I had before this? The compromise I posted?
  30. Gaaraofthedesert801

    Smite Revisions?

    Perp...I read Odyssey 2017....and I have some GLARING issues with it in context with the canon of the main story.... Things that make sense: 1. Anubis DID battle Camazotz, according to Chaac. He battled him here to. 2. Hades, at this time, would indeed be on the throne of Olympus. So that...
  31. Gaaraofthedesert801

    Smite Revisions?

    How about this as a compromise: All the gods directly shown to scale, are implied to scale, or would logically scale, such as Vulcan would likely scale to other Olympians like Athena, Ares, etc., BUT those who have no direct comparison, or have no implified scale or logical scale, could be...
  32. Gaaraofthedesert801

    Smite Revisions?

    Well you know my opinion. Atm I have work to do, so hopefully you all can come to some kind of conclusion. Low 2-C for GODS and the nongods shown directly or stated of being able to fight them. Unknowns like Kuzenbo and Da Ji, I'd leave as that. Unknown. At least until they are shown to scale...
  33. Gaaraofthedesert801

    Smite Revisions?

    Holy giant wall of words batman! And I thought MY word walls were huge lol. That said, this prime/lore key thing I don't FULLY agree with. Given the gods all come from literally the SAME place and draw power deom the SAME source, and have all had constant scalings. But, to each their own on that...
  34. Gaaraofthedesert801

    Smite Revisions?

    Well I'm all for low 2C. Yeah not ALL the gods are 100% even. But many charachters can exist in the same tier in a verse and be stommped by someone else in the tier from the same verse, examples being Goku's ability to beat the tar out of many TOP combatants with only a handful capable of being...
  35. Gaaraofthedesert801

    Smite Revisions?

    Wait, then why didn't hi-rez make a bigger case about this? They only made a big case for the story when Fall of War came about, the Odyssey after this one. I had ZERO idea any of this storyline was a thing. But I have issues with it. Why would Anubis be in egypt? He FLED Egypt, when Ares came...
  36. Gaaraofthedesert801

    Smite Revisions?

    Where did you get the Xing Tian vs Amaterasu thing? That was never in the main story o.O in fact Amaterasu was only JUST added into it, a d it was at a gathering of gods at the request of Olorun. Also this higher plane thing. That's only really seems to be shown for SOME pantheons. Olympus...
  37. Gaaraofthedesert801

    Smite Revisions?

    So here is how I view the Zeus and Ra beatings. Zeus was visibly out numbered. It's likely one on one he could take Hel, Loki, or Ao Kuang. But all ganged up, he was overwhelmed. And Loki back stabbed him. In game, Loki does much more damage from behind, and his execute ability, killing an...
  38. Gaaraofthedesert801

    Smite Revisions?

    Olorun did use a lot of energy. Persephone's trap vines where bombarding everyone from every side. Argus couldn't even fight back, and if he didn't act, they were in big trouble. And after, he was on the ground panting. Showing he isn't used to using his power like this. He used a lot of enery...
  39. Gaaraofthedesert801

    Smite Revisions?

    Yeah that bit is confusing me to. Hi-rez had dark horse make it, and then later they ditched the original premise for the game to continue this specific story. Feels weird to disregard it when hi-rez clearly made it canon on purpose and have followed up on and continually reference it.
  40. Gaaraofthedesert801

    Smite Revisions?

    Idk, I saw it as him not wanting to get bitten. Granted I feel that if Olorun hadn't expended a ton of energy prior, he likely would have won without as much struggme, but I think he took Cerberus' power seriously. Olorun isn't boisterous like say...Odin. Also the poison is from the snake tail...
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