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What that have to do with the debate? we are talking about why. Us. The player. Can't beat Sans in the first time. I'm actually sure that even if Beerus is supossed to be MFTL we are still capable of see him fighting in Super, soo...
No. You actually CAN'T beat him in your first fight. In a human possible way. There is simply no way to dodge absolutly everything. Expect absolutly everything (Like attack you while you are in menu) and react to them AND still win.
You have to die a couple of time and memorize patterns.
believe me. You are not gonna make me think that Dutch is better than Ripley. Like. In any way.
Also. If the enviroment help him well. That's says a lot about the predator. WHo is suposse to be akind with that type of enviroment.
And to be fair. Frisk only achived that tier 2 in certain circunstamces. I don't really think that every human in Undertale is a tier 2
Its just...I don't know. It breaks the suspension of disbelief and doesn't seems logical.
Oh damn. Nicol Bolas!
I would say that Nicol Bolas has the edge here. As his feats were more impressive to me than Flowey's. And in sheer stats i see him winning.
lol. I didn't read OP. So i think this was True Demon Ending Hitoshura.
Anyway. Half-Demon Hitoshura should still be above Kagutsuchi. And Kagutsuchi still destroyed billions of universes. So...
Frisk isn't doing much here apart from reset. Frisk is a pacifist with great durability. Hitoshura is just going to ignore him if he simply don't try attack him.
It depends really. To be honest. Some just see him dodging you like...Well. Dodging
But seeing how gamecodes almost mean reality in Undertale it could also be taken as Reality Warping. Since it is obvious that. For example. You can't kill a vendor because he is in his shop. Which makes no sense...
Sans workshop has a photo in it. If you interact with the photo the text will say that is you, sans and a bunch of people who you don't know. But. If you complete the pacifist run before. The text will change and say that is the photo is you (Frisk, the protagonist) and all his/her friends from...
Asriel shouldn't be counted in the versus. Unless (highly unlikable) the entire underground tries to fuse with Flowey. Which is again, highly unlikely.
The greatest factors here are Sans and Frisk. And maybe Flowey if he get any soul.
Again. To which extend was that reality bend? remember...
Scenario:
Kratos from the end of God of War 3 has been summoned to the Frozen Throne by some warlocks that tried a last move against Arthas. Kratos then proceed to kill the warlocks and. Confused and anger, engage combat against the Lich King.
Rules:
-In character both
-Arthas from the end...
Okey. So. You already know how this goes. Lets not waste any more time.
Rules:
-In character both (Flynn with a neutral mindset)
-No prep and no knowledge.
-Flynn can summon demons to help him (limited to four)
-Battle in The Underground. The Throne Room.
-Asriel starts as Absolute God of...
Quite the contrary in fact. Again. Beerus likes to show the opponent how inferior he is and. If the oponent is powerful enough. He left him a shot in order to see his power. This happen, again, against that random alien in Super where Beerus toyed a LOT with him before one-shotting him and...
Natsu murders the entire verse. He has lots of firepower that the top tiers couldn't even dream of. He would destroy everything. And even if the Grimm surpass him in number they are like bugs to him.
Beerus is no idiot. But he's also one cocky guy. Sans with OP scenario has a shot. Beerus is not the type of guy that takes things seriously the fist time. So Sans would certanly be able to come up with something to get him hit at least one.
After all. Beerus is probably going to walk of and if...
This was exactly the dead end that my friend and i encounter.
Well. See. Even if Chara manages to destroy Solaris' mind. His body would still be indestructible and he would still be consuming time until nothing has left. And since it was virtually impossible to destroy his body. Elise and Sonic...
I was actually debating this with a friend recently. Although the debate was with Asriel instead of Chara. But since he/She is the lowest high tier of Undertale here i though it would be a better match. But lets just get to the point.
Scenario:
In an alternate universe. Mephiles the Dark...
By firepower alone Godzilla should take this. He is. At the very. Very. VERY least planet level. I don't think Rayquaza could endure an atomic breath of that potency in the face. Yes. With his speed it would be hard to catch but even then. Godzilla has enough reactions to catch him at least one...
I do not think that the Cthulhu Mythos are the strongest in fiction. But they are probably if we are talking about..."Mainstream" fiction? It is clearly a well know and well aknowleddge fiction that everybody can accept their power levels as something logical. So. If you disregard those...
As far as i'm concern. Since everything in Demonbane is Azatoth's dream. He is the only "omnipotent" in Demonbane. Also. I remember a couple of bad ends where Azatoth is awaken and everything goes to shit. So...
High end reality warping. I don't know if someone with enough tech would be capable of exract their determination. And. Of course. Beating them so many times that they would simply lose their determination. Basically what Sans was trying to do.