This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.
For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here.
We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.
Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.
Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page.
Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.
I don't think it's wise to powerscale to Raiden with characters other than other gods as he is a non-coporeal being and the only time he can really fight with one of his bodies is when he is challenged directly.
A real issue with the series however is the The Elder Gods page. IIRC there can be...
Bloodlusted wasn't defined in the topic.
Could you give an example of Hercule performing his most powerful punch? Based on their profiles they both have Wall Level+ attack potency and Batman has Wall Level+ Durability whereas Hercule has Building level+ durability (which Batman can bypass with...
Indeed, Hercule is strong for a human and like I said at the start of the post, Batman will have some trouble beating him if Hercule is blood lusted.
If this was a regulated boxing match then Hercule would likely win due to raw stats and Batman being unable to use most of his tactics.
To give...
Overall I would say Batman with some difficulty if Hercule is blood lusted. Batman with ease in character.
Hercule's durability is building level on this site, however he has taken damage from much weaker blows. You could consider the weak blows doing damage as comic relief, but so are his...
Ah, I haven't seen her die in neutral until now. It looks more like the damage she took in the battle was causing her to fall apart like in Geno, but her Determination was enough to keep her together for a little longer.
In both cases she begins to melt at the end, looking more like an Amalgamate.
If you're referring to Flowey, the flower body he uses is from the overworld. Or are you reffering to another?
Considering the Determination in the second form gives her new armor, more defence, heals her wound, speeds her up, replaces her eye with a laser. Most likely no. She's the same...
Regular Undyne doesn't melt, her body splits apart until she pulls it back together with Determination. No monsters in Undertale melt except those known to have Determination to my knowledge, the game states monsters instantly turn to ash on death.
Undyne, in her second form, started to melt...
Exactly.
As for Determination, Undyne has only shown it in her base form to prevent herself from dying and reach her Undying form IIRC. At the end of the battle she melts into what looks like an Amalgamate before turning to dust. The deceased monsters that were injected with Determination and...
I said the chaarcters we're discussing aren't a threat in Geno run and for pacifist I used a mock of your argument, stating Frisk is holding back because he/she doesn't want to hurt the monsters like Chara.
As for Undyne, "Determination" in the Undying form, though I would mention a possible...
Possible Geno spoilers.
That reminds me, Undyne's page says "Possible use of Determination", it's pretty much confirmed if you Check her during that battle. Granted it's also likely it's time limited as she starts to melt into something that looks like an amalgamate after the battle instead of...
And Temmie, Greater Dog, Lesser Dog, Muffet, Doggo.
Tsundreplane is literally the only character from Undertale on this Wiki that hasn't been scaled to relativistic+.
As for Legitimate threats, none are in Geno run and in pacifist, using your own argument, Frisk is holding back.
His blue attack couldn't be dodged partially because it is an aoe skill in a confined space.
As for everyone else, the only person whom has shown to be able to actually keep up with Frisk is Sans. Unless you expect a Moldsmal to be faster than the speed of sound.
Except he couldn't damage Frisk's base form until he restricted Frisk's movement unless Frisk got in the way of his attacks.
As for him holding back, not showing a feat is not a reason to give that character a feat.
Claiming that no characters keep up with Frisk is not an argument thathe is able to keep up with Frisk.
My argument is focused on the Neutral route where Frisk doesn't even have to move to avoid Papyrus's attacks until Frisk's movement becomes restricted. Even if Papyrus could keep up, keeping...
Instead of making a new topic I'm going to post this here.
Papyrus should have his speed downgraded.
At the moment his speed is "Speed: Relativistic+ (Capable of keeping up with Frisk in combat)" which is all fine and dandy, except he doesn't keep up with Frisk.
In a Bad Time run he dies with...
First I would like to make it clear that this is completely speculation and my own thoughts on how Yhwach's powers interact with the environment and with others in Bleach.
In addition I'm not up to date with Bleach (having only watched the anime and learned other things from various places) so...
Most of his alchemy, he would still be able to change his automail and use his own life force to heal his body, but yes you need to remove most of Edward's strength for Harry to win.
On ground or in close quarters Edward wins pretty easily, even more easily depending on how much he can manipulate the arena.
If Harry has his broom in a more open area it becomes more even, but even then I believe Edward is intelligent enough to manipulate the field to make cover and give...
Nah, mainly laid a (obvious) trap as a validity check, then started to have fun dancing around it and making it more ridiculous.
Whether trolling or just being ignorant and not checking to see if other characters are stronger than Hagoromo before saying Hagoromo wins it's pretty obvious his/her...
Which batman?
Gods and Monsters Batma stomps pretty hard for example.
As for a more general Batman, knowledge of pressure points, speed and skill would tip it to Batman's favor imo, but a much closer fight.
Mr. Satan stomps Adam West.
With stats equalized before equipment I see them as fairly equal with the main deciding factor being terrain. Cloud having an advantage on a simple battlefield and Link having an advantage on a more complex one.
Technically Sephiroth wasn't injected, Lucrecia was while she was pregnant with him.
Either way, I believe this topic should be locked, the upgrades Cloud has received makes this a mismatch without stats being equalized (Either pre or post equipment increases).
2 seconds into the match the ring gets destroyed, they both get counted out and it's a tie.
Tl:dr: We don't know the upper limits of either of these being while unrestricted, one created the realms (with the other Elder Gods), the other potentially ended them (with the power from Blaze)...
...is a really bad thing to do, especially against RPG characters.
I calculated doing the same thing to Cloud can make his speed multiply by over 8.4*10^34 to show how ludicrous it is (I didn't use all options in that calc btw, I can still add speed from weapons, 4x slash, regular Haste, and...
For one, you're mistaking Shinnok's fallen form with his Elder God state.
The Gods in MK don't have a true physical body but are able to manifest one at will. Raiden in Deception was able to regenerate almost instantly despite converting his body into a raw electrical power to attack Onaga...
Raiden was able to protect certain people from Shao Kahn's soul absorbtion with his god's protection. Shinnok (unrestricted) is an Elder God which is much stronger.