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  1. Ultima_Reality

    1-A / High 1-A / Tier 0 Revisions Hub

    Yeah. I might. Now shoo. Don't clutter this thread.
  2. Ultima_Reality

    A High 1-A+ Revision (Star Maker profile revamp)

    I don't have any problem with High 1-A+, looking at the sandbox. Although the profile kind of sucks. I'll probably come back here with some suggested improvements, later.
  3. Ultima_Reality

    1-A / High 1-A / Tier 0 Revisions Hub

    Maybe, but it would have to be discussed alongside the High 1-A+. Do you have anywhere where we can go over it, before a thread is posted?
  4. Ultima_Reality

    I think it's best to do the latter. At least make a "re-evaluation" thread, first, since the hub...

    I think it's best to do the latter. At least make a "re-evaluation" thread, first, since the hub isn't meant for discussion.
  5. Ultima_Reality

    As in, Type 2 AE is largely about not being an abstraction yourself, but being identified with...

    As in, Type 2 AE is largely about not being an abstraction yourself, but being identified with it to the extent that you can't be killed as long as it sticks around. A character with Type 2 AE could either be a physical being with a conceptual "core" to their existence (In which case it could...
  6. Ultima_Reality

    Still 1-A, probably.

    Still 1-A, probably.
  7. Ultima_Reality

    1-A / High 1-A / Tier 0 Revisions Hub

    Same as usual high-tier CRTs. I'm dealing with that one myself, later.
  8. Ultima_Reality

    Depends on a lot of factors. Answer could be either "Yes" or "No" depending on the specifics.

    Depends on a lot of factors. Answer could be either "Yes" or "No" depending on the specifics.
  9. Ultima_Reality

    At the boundary of tier 0: Swirl of the root tier 0 upgrade

    By the by, given how controversial this is, both because of the verse it's from and because it's a Tier 0 CRT, I've took the liberty to move this to Staff Discussion. The OP can still freely input here, of course. If I don't delete a post, it's because it has my permission to stick around.
  10. Ultima_Reality

    At the boundary of tier 0: Swirl of the root tier 0 upgrade

    This thread lowkey hurts to read, but: Yeah, all-in-all this looks like a prim and proper Tier 0. I don't have anything whatsoever to object with, when it comes to the substance of the information. That said, I'm curious on one bit: You said that the Akashic Records, the Root and "Kara" are...
  11. Ultima_Reality

    1-A / High 1-A / Tier 0 Revisions Hub

    The first one isn't a direct tiering revision, and moreso deals with the particulars of Marvel as a verse, so, putting it to the side for now.
  12. Ultima_Reality

    Arceus Qualitative Upgrade

    I don't believe Tier 0 flies here, no. The justification of "It's a metaphor for the Heart experiencing the world through its avatar" doesn't seem to work, seeing as "the Heart was born" and "The Heart began to perceive the world" are referred to as distinct stages, the latter happening "after"...
  13. Ultima_Reality

    The commoners thread: Discussing Ultima's "On the Many, Many Incoherences of the Tiering System"

    https://vsbattles.com/threads/1-a-high-1-a-tier-0-revisions-hub.169763
  14. Ultima_Reality

    1-A / High 1-A / Tier 0 Revisions Hub

    Hi. Good to see you. So, it has finally happened. The new Tiering System is applied. Evil is defeated. We can all go home now. So, I'll be making this thread for a twofold purpose: 1. To keep track of the potential torrent of attempts at 1-A-through-0 upgrades resulting from the revisions...
  15. Ultima_Reality

    The Death of SCP

    Hi all, sorry for home invading, but it has come to my attention that there are still a bunch of SCPs in the Tier 0 category. As some of you know, Tier 0 has changed, and given the specifics of these changes, there being roughly ~30 profiles in the category, none of which fit the bill anymore...
  16. Ultima_Reality

    The Dread Tiering System Revisions

    Yeah, alright. I'll be applying the drafts shortly, and afterwards, I suppose the hub thread is gonna be made. Cheers.
  17. Ultima_Reality

    The Dread Tiering System Revisions

    Added it in. With that said, I don't believe there is anything left to do here. May I move on and close this down?
  18. Ultima_Reality

    The Dread Tiering System Revisions

    Makes sense. Yeah, don't mind saying a Tier 0 doesn't have NEP in the proper sense, then. Still ping-pong'ing whether to link NEP in the Omnipotence page to establish they do have something analogous to it, but that's that. Yeah, minor spelling errors aside, looks good.
  19. Ultima_Reality

    The Dread Tiering System Revisions

    Actually, thinking about it: The only thing left in the way, as far as I can tell, isn't a substantial disagreement but just a slight hang-up on the wording of one paragraph in one of the sandboxes, which is something that's pretty easily rectified by clarifying it whenever someone gets confused...
  20. Ultima_Reality

    The Dread Tiering System Revisions

    Bump.
  21. Ultima_Reality

    When will the Tiering System gonna change?

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  22. Ultima_Reality

    Does this qualify for Low 1-A (new tiering)

    "Implicate Order" just means the general idea of some fundamental substrate underlying perceivable ("explicate") reality. It doesn't inherently have anything to do with Bohm's ideas, at least not anymore (Since it's become a relatively popular term), nor with set theory-related things (Paul...
  23. Ultima_Reality

    The Dread Tiering System Revisions

    Then that's that. I think the only other thing to tackle is how to reword the bit about the nature of Tier 0 "action" (If it is to be reworded at all), then.
  24. Ultima_Reality

    The Dread Tiering System Revisions

    Yeah, I was basically assuming that an understanding similar to this was already there implicit in the NEP page. Both given the detail I mentioned earlier ("Philosophical nonexistence is impossible to prove" and yada yada) and the page saying that even characters with Nature Type 2 often are...
  25. Ultima_Reality

    At the boundary of tier 0: Swirl of the root tier 0 upgrade

    Bro the new Tiering System ain't even applied yet. Chill out.
  26. Ultima_Reality

    Tier 0 characters in the new tiering system

    We'll get to that when we get to that. (The rest of the verse is in disrepair)
  27. Ultima_Reality

    Tier 0 characters in the new tiering system

    Wouldn't, no. Unless this wielding happens through a literal division of the Tier 0's power into the level of the lower character.
  28. Ultima_Reality

    Is this `1-A and QS?

    The interpretation of the OP seems to be that the space which Goku travels through when using IT is Subspace, which would contradict the idea that it can't be directly accessed in that way. And would also make the referent of the "Transcends time" statement into some other, unrelated realm. So...
  29. Ultima_Reality

    The Dread Tiering System Revisions

    Bump.
  30. Ultima_Reality

    Is this `1-A and QS?

    Peak. Anyway: The answer is no. Firstly because "transcend" is not an automatic indicator of the sort of superiority that is required of 1-A characters. Things with Type 1 Beyond-Dimensional Existence (i.e. Lack space, time and dimensionality, but aren't superior to dimensional objects) can...
  31. Ultima_Reality

    The Dread Tiering System Revisions

    By the way: While I've agreed that "Large Size" as an ability is better not extended to 1-A-through-0, I suggest that we cap it out at the Type 10 I suggested: Type 11 is completely redundant once we exclude 1-A from the ability, since the highest types are then really just extensions of...
  32. Ultima_Reality

    The Dread Tiering System Revisions

    Yeah, put that way, I don't have an issue with it. Hm, I think this probably springs from us having different ideas of what NEP entails all-in-all. Strictly speaking, the law of exluded middle is broken when you start messing up with contradictories, e.g. "This guy is neither red, nor...
  33. Ultima_Reality

    The Dread Tiering System Revisions

    As said, I've no issue with conceding the issue for the moment, yeah. Hardly to do with these revisions either way. They can create something that punches, or cause effects that functionally amount to force, but their, uh, """physiology""" makes it kinda nonsensical for them to punch anything...
  34. Ultima_Reality

    The Dread Tiering System Revisions

    Yeah, right then. Seems like the list includes everything still hanging. @DarkGrath @Qawsedf234 @DarkDragonMedeus @Elizhaa @Planck69 @Deagonx @DontTalkDT @Everything12 Hi all. I'd appreciate your input on the list of pending things here.
  35. Ultima_Reality

    The Dread Tiering System Revisions

    Ballin Is there anything left to do here? I imagine we could ping the people who've given their input here before to take a look at the list up there, or somesuch.
  36. Ultima_Reality

    The Dread Tiering System Revisions

    Could work. Here's my pitch:
  37. Ultima_Reality

    The Dread Tiering System Revisions

    ...IV Multiverse to be High 1-A+ depending on how a verse describes it. For instance Manifold associates it with "all logically possible universes".* I don't think a verse happening to include broad logical laws as part of the conditions for the instantiation of a universe is that wild. * I'm...
  38. Ultima_Reality

    The Dread Tiering System Revisions

    Timelines and dimensional levels aren't really equivalent at all, so that's a pretty faulty comparison. Yeah I'll pick up the work. Would rather get this done with as soon as is reasonably possible. You all can expect a last post from me later today.
  39. Ultima_Reality

    The Dread Tiering System Revisions

    Side-note: Like I told you in private, I already added everything we agreed on to the sandbox pages (And also a couple other things that ended up being removed by carelessness on my part, like the "Predating spacetime isn't 1-A" section in the FAQ and etc). When can I expect you to write that...
  40. Ultima_Reality

    The Dread Tiering System Revisions

    Yeah, and I agree, hence my point was never about a single extra dimension. The crux of the matter is whether what I described above is actually properly described as "A single extra dimension."
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