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  1. CloverDragon03

    Major downgrade of Torikoverse

    Even with that my disagreement remains, because: Consuming stars is really blatant. Like, I don't see how you could not get Tier 4 from that Cosmos Mammoth's placement in the hierarchy is irrelevant because Neo being at the top of it automatically means he's superior We have a point of...
  2. CloverDragon03

    Major downgrade of Torikoverse

    Yes. Doesn't mean I agree with your response. I read through the whole thread, that's how I arrived at this stance. For instance, things like "eating a supernova is only BFR and Sealing" is something I absolutely don't agree with. You need to be able to physically withstand that kind of power
  3. CloverDragon03

    Major downgrade of Torikoverse

    I disagree for Duedate's reasons
  4. CloverDragon03

    Back to the beginning

    I don't even know what's being proposed...
  5. CloverDragon03

    Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

    They're unknown, which is why we can't assume they'll be universe-sized
  6. CloverDragon03

    Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

    That's not really even a Hyperbolic Time Chamber
  7. CloverDragon03

    Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

    I wouldn't automatically assume this makes the spaces universe-sized. They're all Hyperbolic Time Chambers. Not sure why they'd be vastly different
  8. CloverDragon03

    Arc System Works Discussion Thread 2

    I want them to reveal Dizzy (or tease her) at EVO 🗿
  9. CloverDragon03

    Nacht Faust vs Kizaru (9-4-0

    Pulling him into a shadow is an example of another, especially when done after paralysis So no, "objectively" is the wrong word. I'm not entertaining this any longer
  10. CloverDragon03

    Nacht Faust vs Kizaru (9-4-0

    I mean you can explain why you think it's his only wincon. Doesn't automatically make that objectively the case
  11. CloverDragon03

    Nacht Faust vs Kizaru (9-4-0

    I know you're not changing your mind, that's not my goal. I'm just explaining my stance
  12. CloverDragon03

    Nacht Faust vs Kizaru (9-4-0

    So it should be 5-2 then?
  13. CloverDragon03

    Nacht Faust vs Kizaru (9-4-0

    You can think that but between things like Walgner's paralysis and especially Monument of Atonement if needed (Nacht can absolutely combine these two as well), on top with what's already been discussed (like the clones having the exact same ki making it very difficult to find the real Nacht), my...
  14. CloverDragon03

    Nacht Faust vs Kizaru (9-4-0

    I see. Well I think that's something he can do and is a legit wincon, but obviously Kizaru is able to adapt.
  15. CloverDragon03

    Nacht Faust vs Kizaru (9-4-0

    Also the vote count should be updated, it's 4-2 for Nacht not 4-1
  16. CloverDragon03

    Nacht Faust vs Kizaru (9-4-0

    And that light will cast a shadow on Nacht's own clones, so Nacht will always have a way to take advantage of disappearing into shadows and the like
  17. CloverDragon03

    Nacht Faust vs Kizaru (9-4-0

    I'm talking about Nacht's clones
  18. CloverDragon03

    Nacht Faust vs Kizaru (9-4-0

    Then what's gonna happen when there's a bunch of clones running around and Kizaru turns into light? That's a lotta people to cast shadows over
  19. CloverDragon03

    Nacht Faust vs Kizaru (9-4-0

    Then what's happening in the scan I sent?
  20. CloverDragon03

    Nacht Faust vs Kizaru (9-4-0

    Light itself casts a shadow though, and Nacht absolutely will take advantage of that, as was the case here
  21. CloverDragon03

    🇺🇸Happy 4th of July🇺🇲

    I still don't know what a kilometer is
  22. CloverDragon03

    Black Clover : Demon King 5C Upgrade

    The 48 hour thing only applies for getting a thread accepted, not for if it gets rejected. If you don't wish to pursue this any further, you can ask a staff member to close the thread now
  23. CloverDragon03

    Black Clover : Demon King 5C Upgrade

    Not just that, but also that Lucius's AP is equal to his durability
  24. CloverDragon03

    Black Clover : Demon King 5C Upgrade

    When I say Full Power Lucifero I mean with 100% of his power, not the full power form he entered when Half-Manifested. Sorry for the confusion Universal Energy System for BC, which indicates that Durability = AP. Plus, he has the statement of absorbing Lucifero's power, which applies to his...
  25. CloverDragon03

    Guilty Gear Scaling Revision (Part 2.75): Universal Will & Dragon Install Sol Scaling

    I've applied the changes. This can now be closed
  26. CloverDragon03

    Guilty Gear Scaling Revision (Part 2.75): Universal Will & Dragon Install Sol Scaling

    With this input, I'd say it's safe for me to begin applying changes
  27. CloverDragon03

    Black Clover : Demon King 5C Upgrade

    356.4 exatons is for Full Power Lucifero. The Lucifero that Asta fought was only at half power Asta did slash Lucius and he was relatively unharmed
  28. CloverDragon03

    Black Clover : Demon King 5C Upgrade

    Let me put it like this: The 356.4 exaton value comes from multiplying Lucius's base (and thus, multiplying Full Power Lucifero's power) by 100. If we scale Full Power Lucifero to Sacred Power Lucius, that just straight-up goes away It's not consistent considering a much stronger DU Asta than...
  29. CloverDragon03

    Black Clover : Demon King 5C Upgrade

    Yes, that is correct
  30. CloverDragon03

    Black Clover : Demon King 5C Upgrade

    He just says he was made physically tough by Lucifero... Which we already knew from Asta's fight with him. We're not scaling Lucifero up, because then that creates a circular mess of scaling where everyone just keeps being scaled up and up into infinity
  31. CloverDragon03

    Black Clover : Demon King 5C Upgrade

    You can't have Lucifero scale to two different values. Base Lucius scales from Lucifero. Lucifero doesn't scale from Sacred Power Lucius
  32. CloverDragon03

    Black Clover : Demon King 5C Upgrade

    No. His base form is comparable to Lucifero for absorbing his power, then his Sacred Power amplifies his power even further. What you're proposing would cause a never-ending cycle of circular scaling
  33. CloverDragon03

    Rule Violation Reports (New forum)

    I don't mind, but I think it's because he also kind of asked for the month long ban himself. Personally, I wouldn't be opposed to it, as I don't think the nature of what was done is something that can necessarily be limited to a specific verse
  34. CloverDragon03

    Rule Violation Reports (New forum)

    Personally, I wouldn't advocate for both. Either one or the other
  35. CloverDragon03

    NNT calculations

    This thread's been solidly rejected
  36. CloverDragon03

    Nacht Faust vs Kizaru (9-4-0

    Yes, emotions influence ki. Therefore, having the same ki would require having the same emotions - because any difference in emotions would result in a difference in ki. This is going in circles
  37. CloverDragon03

    I remember that calc being accepted a while back. What scans do you have?

    I remember that calc being accepted a while back. What scans do you have?
  38. CloverDragon03

    Nacht Faust vs Kizaru (9-4-0

    They all have the exact same Ki as Nacht, and Ki is influenced by emotions. The logic simply adds together
  39. CloverDragon03

    Nacht Faust vs Kizaru (9-4-0

    What? You kinda gave us the proof yourself. Emotions affect ki, so two people need to have the exact same emotions to have the same ki
  40. CloverDragon03

    Nacht Faust vs Kizaru (9-4-0

    "Emotions affect one's ki" Yes, meaning that if two people have the exact same ki, that means they have the same emotions, because any differences would affect their ki
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