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  1. Chariot190

    Omni-Man vs Bardock | 2-3-0

    Explosive wave isnt a universal mechanic. Prove it is. Nobody has yet beyond "trust me bro". Yes, so he gets those. Yes so he gets that. Now prove he can use techniques he's never shown to be able to. Don't matter, narrative makes it blatant Vegeta is just so strong now he curbs, and he...
  2. Chariot190

    Omni-Man vs Bardock | 2-3-0

    You linked Bardock getting obliterfucked and using some unknown definitely not what I'm asking for ki attack? What am I looking at here exactly? They're techniques too then, it has a variation, you just explained why it's a unique technique. If it's a variant, no matter how small, still means...
  3. Chariot190

    Omni-Man vs Bardock | 2-3-0

    Prove it. If it's named it's a technique, you dont decide what does and doesnt count, so im asking you to prove it. I dont even think it's true anyway based on Piccolo yap.
  4. Chariot190

    Omni-Man vs Bardock | 2-3-0

    Where does it say "oh btw simply having high or bigger ki means you know every technique of those weaker than you". It doesnt say this, it doesnt even implicate that. And we know it isn't true anyway. If they have the same top speed, it would be like a fly. Bardock's terminals would be...
  5. Chariot190

    Omni-Man vs Bardock | 2-3-0

    As before, LS can work and often does work, on different mechanics. Materials have differing values for shear, compressive, tensile, etc, Gas is using LS there. He isnt punching him, using Ki, AP. It's just grip strength, which is magnitudes below Nolan's.
  6. Chariot190

    Omni-Man vs Bardock | 2-3-0

    That literally isnt saying what youre saying it does. Yeah obviously the exceptions being ones he can't, like this, till you prove he can. Can he use the special beam cannon, kamehameha and others too? Of course not, but those weaker than him can.
  7. Chariot190

    Omni-Man vs Bardock | 2-3-0

    Now imagine if he didnt have an arm, or a head, and against a dude who will hold on even if he wasnt already stronger than Bardock even if that very attack melted his face off. This would hurt Bardock more than it would Nolan. Also a anti-feat, Gas isnt even Class Z, imagine if it was Nolan...
  8. Chariot190

    Omni-Man vs Bardock | 2-3-0

    Common sense. Im obviously asking for proof he can do what you claim, showing noncanon stuff isnt proof. Because as you just said yourself, you don't get it unless it's spelt out explicitly. Statement is fine too, or even something like 'anyone who can master ki can do it" and then a statement...
  9. Chariot190

    Legend of Zelda General Discussion Thread

    Yeah but like, based on the Goku Tien logic, Tingle's jobbing form would be Low 1-C, in which Stamp scales to that one.
  10. Chariot190

    Omni-Man vs Bardock | 2-3-0

    Dude obviously I meant canon, it doesnt matter if it isnt canon as if it aint canon that mean he dont got it and thus not relevant to the match. Well fir future reference I want actual proof of that claim. Anywhere? Nuke, AOE. To hit the dude who's gonna be up his ass with an explosion, he's...
  11. Chariot190

    Legend of Zelda General Discussion Thread

    Why are we assuming Tingle's higher forms cap at low 1-C.
  12. Chariot190

    The Fraudster vs. The Black Swordsman

    This also aint Guts 🗿
  13. Chariot190

    The Hunter vs. The Black Swordsman

    This aint Guts 🗿
  14. Chariot190

    Omni-Man vs Bardock | 2-3-0

    Tfw Nolan yeets the continent into space.... This aint the games dude. Because if he doesnt know the technique, he cant use it? Burden of proof is on those saying he can. Huh? Why would nolan be in front of him? Ignoring the fact he can take it, Nolan is gonna be like an annoying fly aiming...
  15. Chariot190

    Legend of Zelda General Discussion Thread

    Feels like a Tingle Rival. So low 1-C according to you.
  16. Chariot190

    Omni-Man vs Bardock | 2-3-0

    Also as a side note. Since when did Bardock have an Explosive Wave technique? If he just nukes the area to catch omni, he's gonna be hurting himself even more? It isnt like he's immune to his own attacks.
  17. Chariot190

    Omni-Man vs Bardock | 2-3-0

    Theyre actually gonna be doing less given the initial AP disadvantage coupled with Nolan having heat res well beyond what Bardock can push out. No it cant, im not humoring this. Show me Bardock vaporizing someone who outscales, "damage boost", means nothing on its own, show me Bardock's attacks...
  18. Chariot190

    Omni-Man vs Bardock | 2-3-0

    Nolan not only starts off twice as strong, but will fight through conventionally fatal wounds. You could gut Nolan and he would still rip his tail off. Nuking wont help, he'd just keep on going. Invin mfs have such actually stupid pain tolerance you may as well have to instant kill them to...
  19. Chariot190

    Omni-Man vs Bardock | 2-3-0

    Their LS isnt what matters, but rather durability mechanics. He DO got the required dura feats at least even if he just gets pinned anyway. Strangle him with his own tail. Rip the tail off actually.
  20. Chariot190

    Omni-Man vs Bardock | 2-3-0

    It is what it is. There obviously comes a gap where it cant be overcome due to how work works. But here? Nah, Bardock gets torn in half casually. Even if Bardock had the initial advantage in AP, it wouldnt be large enough to stop the utter eclipse that Nolan has in LS with no feats backing...
  21. Chariot190

    Omni-Man vs Bardock | 2-3-0

    Not at all, that only applies for crushing, not ripping or tearing. Crushing involves pushing mechanics, Bardock tanking a particular strong punch would grant him the relative shear and compressive as a punch would interact with those mechanics. Pulling though, not so much, and last I...
  22. Chariot190

    Legend of Zelda General Discussion Thread

    Well, don't be. Why come to the funny zelda thread to be grumpy? I'm just shocked, what are you yapping about? What is even the issue? Like I ACTUALLY don't know what you're bitching about, "ill do it myself" "nobody gives a shit if it aint zelda", like man what is actually the problem...
  23. Chariot190

    Legend of Zelda General Discussion Thread

    Me when I literally already have a few calcs done and have about 35 clips but eh guess not.
  24. Chariot190

    Omni-Man vs Bardock | 2-3-0

    Bro, if Nolan gets his mitts on Bardock, he's getting literally ripped in half. Invin dudes abuse the shit out of LS, and they also have the LS to actually like, be useful in their ballpark. Bardock's only bet here is to never engage Nolan in CQC because he just gets dismembered if he does...
  25. Chariot190

    Omni-Man vs Bardock | 2-3-0

    With what hand? Nolan is gonna rip it off instantly. Or his head, that works too. Also Nolan starts off stronger, 2x is quite a bit against a dude who can literally rip your head off the instant he touches you. Zenkai really ain't gonna be kicking in if he gets torn in half right off the bat.
  26. Chariot190

    Legend of Zelda General Discussion Thread

    Me when I literally just said multiple fuckass goons have like an 8-B and 8-C feat
  27. Chariot190

    Legend of Zelda General Discussion Thread

    Decent tier 8 feat for a mook. Might be the highest mook feat in the verse. Edit: It's at least 8-B, just ran some values. Might be higher. Edit 2: Another tier 8 fodder feat.
  28. Chariot190

    Legend of Zelda General Discussion Thread

    WAIT The fuckass AlttP blocks in this game, Im in and we can see the blocks from a side perspective for the first time ever, theyre literally taller than Zelda. That's gonna like triple AlttP Link's LS without gauntlets.
  29. Chariot190

    Legend of Zelda General Discussion Thread

    Just calced it, got about 2840kg, or uh, 2-3 tons like I eyeballed it at 🚬 🗿
  30. Chariot190

    Legend of Zelda General Discussion Thread

    Uh, brag? Ok first off it is done, I just have to sort that shit out. Second off, nah dude that's the type of shit we should be doing, not half assing profiles becaus eboo hoo it's to much effort to write a few lines of text. Oh i wasn't aware you knew how tall she was, mind sharing? And no...
  31. Chariot190

    Legend of Zelda General Discussion Thread

    You say this as a joke. Nah dog I still gotta sort 1941 clips alone for TOTK, shit gonna take awhile. That's ignoring what I've already sorted, and the fuckass huge OOT/MM one I'm working on. You're literally wrong, it's over half height and as wide as she is tall. Stop spouting nonsense...
  32. Chariot190

    Legend of Zelda General Discussion Thread

    Beds are bigger, minor difference but it can matter in tight gaps. Pots you cant stand on actually so you're just wrong, again, you can jump and hide in themtho so that's already a useful tidbit that seperates them and feeds into Zelda's stealth she has going on. Edit: Oh neat she can hop while...
  33. Chariot190

    Legend of Zelda General Discussion Thread

    Oh wow I guess the CRT im working just doesnt have these abilities because I spent 200 hours gathering everything, **** me I guess, not real. You lifted rocks over half your height? I wasnt aware youre the strongest mf on the planet. Oh so you just don't have it, got it. I just clipped...
  34. Chariot190

    Legend of Zelda General Discussion Thread

    Except actually not true, most to tall for her to instantly jump on, the table is one of few she can hop on without expanding Link juice for the higher jump, but Link juice is an expendable resource, so why waste it just JUMPING on a box or boulder instead? It's why it's used constantly in the...
  35. Chariot190

    Legend of Zelda General Discussion Thread

    Not indexing everything is why we dont have stuff like various immortalities on the Hero of Time, or even something as particularly useful as illusions or multiple resistances on TOTK. Bro, do you not like, know how much rocks bigger than a person tend to weigh? Even the dinky ass rock at the...
  36. Chariot190

    Legend of Zelda General Discussion Thread

    Literally just as simple as a foe generating like some fuckass goo or toxic gas across the floor and she uses a table to elevate herself, as one of many examples even a table could be useful. It doesn't matter WHY, ignoring the fact everything has some form of use in at least some situation...
  37. Chariot190

    Legend of Zelda General Discussion Thread

    Zelda has two forms of NPI already, that's neato. Lots of lil neat things.
  38. Chariot190

    Legend of Zelda General Discussion Thread

    That's a "that should be deleted" profile, how about we NOT do that again. I just gave you reasons but yes let's ignore the fact Zelda can just magic 50 ton boulders out of nothing. Last I checked if mfs could conjure up stuff, we list what they conjure. Ah so she can summon super heated...
  39. Chariot190

    Giorno just became an official Japanese citizen, I sure hope nothing bad happens to him on this particular day!

    Death loop shifted Diavolo through multiple worlds, and even time seemingly (Two of his deaths took place at impossible times as Part 5 ended on April 6th).
  40. Chariot190

    Legend of Zelda General Discussion Thread

    No that's the minimum, how deep depends on how deep we wanna go detailing it, like do we want gifs, clips of each, stuff like their own durability and feats, etc. Exactly. Most is not all. You actually can move the rocks, and I just gave you reasons. If she can summon a 10 ton boulder out...
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