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    One-Punch Man: AP Revisions

    Though Nyan is missing from the sandbox, I believe the proposal is to upgrade him to Mountain level through Drive Knight who is being proposed to be Mountain level via scaling to Jet Psykos. Although Jet Psykos is currently Large Town level so I'm not sure why this proposal is the way it is.
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    Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

    We don't just go for the theoretically fastest possible ratings. Consistency is important.
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    Change Angsizing Usage (THIS AFFECTS MORE THAN 1000 CALCULATIONS!!!!!)

    Sure, I'm not necessarily in favor of a mass calc-corrections project. But I'm open to the idea that some of our calc standards may need to be updated over time.
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    Change Angsizing Usage (THIS AFFECTS MORE THAN 1000 CALCULATIONS!!!!!)

    The OP seems to be raising some good points to me. If all of these calcs are inaccurate then we're clearly doing something wrong.
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    Fist Of The North Star Revision Part 2 (Scaling and Multipliers)

    Can the OP be updated with what is remaining to be covered for approval? Or do all of those calcs in the OP still need evaluating?
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    Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

    Being empowered by the Dragon Balls, if you consider that a form going by Granolah & Gas.
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    One Piece General Discussion: Egghead

    For all we know, yeah. We know there's entire sunken continents under the surface too. There could be many relatively shallower patches beneath the surface.
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    One Piece General Discussion: Egghead

    The entire ocean isn't going to be 10 km deep. The depth of the ocean floor varies IRL too.
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    One-Punch Man: AP Revisions

    Ahh, oh yeah. I forgot Iaian had 2 keys since in the sandbox there was just the one and it didn't mention which key it was. Just as a general suggestion if you have a single or multiple keys under revision, it'd be useful to include which keys they are.
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    One Piece General Discussion: Egghead

    Could be apples that fall from sky islands and float in the sea.
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    One-Punch Man: AP Revisions

    We don't accept multipliers off of this kind of reasoning for one-shots.
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    One-Punch Man: AP Revisions

    Okay, fair enough. In your sandbox Iaian is Town level. I can see where you're coming from but I wouldn't take Garou's statement to mean he thinks they're comparably as strong. He's also grouping Elder Centipede with them too.
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    One-Punch Man: AP Revisions

    Fuhrer Ugly was significantly damaged by those attacks and had to regenerate. Bang can also kick straight through Gums. Neither Gums nor Fuhrer Ugly should be on par with Bang.
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    One-Punch Man: AP Revisions

    Thanks, I missed that part of Garou's section. It seems off to me though; even though Gyoro-Gyoro claimed Bug God was injured, he didn't look noticeably injured. And Royal Ripper was also able to injure that version of Garou which would introduce some circular scaling it seems.
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    One-Punch Man: AP Revisions

    I don't think this is enough to imply that D-oS is relative to Royal Ripper. He wasn't in the middle of an attack when she wrapped his blade up in her whip. I think there is a bit of a generous scaling chain currently of putting Narinki's Private Squad on the same level as the likes of S-Class...
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    One Piece General Discussion: Egghead

    Just the calc for Zunesha's trunk swing I believe.
  17. Damage3245

    One Piece: Thriller Bark Size Change

    Fair enough, I was only making a vague estimate there in response to the "10x the size of the Sunny" comment.
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    One Piece: Thriller Bark Size Change

    I'll just note for now that Thriller Bark's title is the world's largest pirate ship, which doesn't necessarily mean the longest. I wouldn't say the Queen Mama Chanter being pixelscaling to be 2724 meters long (assuming the pixelscaling is correct) is an automatic debunk of the existing calc...
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    One Piece: Thriller Bark Size Change

    The Thousand Sunny is 39 meters long. Even if the Queen Mama Chanter was thirty times longer than the Thousand Sunny, it'd only be 1170 meters long and smaller than Thriller Bark.
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    One Piece: Thriller Bark Size Change

    Addressing the second part of the OP first. The reason given for why nobody can grasp its size there is because it is its full dimensions are shrouded in mist. Not because it so unfathomably huge. The Queen Mama Chanter doesn't have an official size figure I believe, but even if we deduce its...
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    Nanatsu no Taizai: Upgrade FTL+

    How sure are we that the "speed of light attack" statement here is literal and not a hyperbolic / figurative statement?
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    Undead Unluck Discussion Thread

    Flight speed is not necessarily the same as combat speed.
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    My Hero Academia General Discussion Thread #18

    I'm annoyed that I never noticed until now that Lady Nagant shot Shigaraki in the head when she shot off his arms in the final arc. That makes her moment even cooler.
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    Dragon Ball: Updates (Planet Vegeta Re-Calc, DBS Manga Downgrade)

    Thanks for evaluating. I'll update the profiles soon.
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    Dragon Ball: Updates (Planet Vegeta Re-Calc, DBS Manga Downgrade)

    Thanks for commenting. I think we probably need one more and we'll be good to go. @DarkDragonMedeus When you get the chance can you look over this sandbox for the manga versions of the characters?
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    Dragon Ball: Updates (Planet Vegeta Re-Calc, DBS Manga Downgrade)

    You're probably right for the anime but this isn't the thread for that. In the manga Vegeta doesn't learn that Beerus beat Goku.
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    Dragon Ball: Updates (Planet Vegeta Re-Calc, DBS Manga Downgrade)

    I can't find anything in the manga directly supporting that; the only exception being when Vegeta gets his "My Bulma!!!" rage boost and has a better performance against Beerus than the others, but this is situational.
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    Dragon Ball: Updates (Planet Vegeta Re-Calc, DBS Manga Downgrade)

    I've ammended my sandbox. In this version, Goku and Vegeta have a Post-Training key where they'll be 2-C in base after their separate training sessions prior to their return to the future for a rematch with Goku Black.
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    Dragon Ball: Updates (Planet Vegeta Re-Calc, DBS Manga Downgrade)

    @CryoTheMayo You've got some good points; I still don't think some of the earlier proposals in the thread are correct but I'll ammend my sandbox with a compromise taking into account what you've said.
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    Dragon Ball: Updates (Planet Vegeta Re-Calc, DBS Manga Downgrade)

    No, as I explained earlier that SS2 Vegeta vs Goku Black fight took place after Trunks' sparring with Goku, where both Trunks and Vegeta did gravity room training before their trip to the future. There is all kinds of ridiculousness if we get into the realm of "Why didn't thsi character...
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    Dragon Ball: Updates (Planet Vegeta Re-Calc, DBS Manga Downgrade)

    That's because Vegeta can't do the Complete form of Super Saiyan Blue; he can only do his trick of switching forms quickly which wouldn't work now if Fused Zamasu was much faster. And while Fused Zamasu is obviously more powerful than just SSR Goku Black, I don't think there's any solid...
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    Dragon Ball: Updates (Planet Vegeta Re-Calc, DBS Manga Downgrade)

    This is not a stupid unexplained leap of power on Goku's part though; it's explained to us by Vegeta that Goku has developed a way of being able to fight with 100% of Blue's power. Therefore what we can take away from this is that Goku wasn't using his full power earlier in the fight.
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    Dragon Ball: Updates (Planet Vegeta Re-Calc, DBS Manga Downgrade)

    I don't deny that insane powerscaling in the series happens from time to time where some characters can get huge, unexplained upgrades but I don't think that can be used to excuse every single issue. I think the series already provides a reason for us for why Vegeta's performance in his...
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    Dragon Ball: Updates (Planet Vegeta Re-Calc, DBS Manga Downgrade)

    That's what I disagree with. Vegeta getting infinitely stronger with that training and that being the reason for how he's able to contend with Goku Black. Nothing narratively supports that: 1) Vegeta squares off against Goku Black and Goku Black confirms that Vegeta doesn't appear different...
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    Dragon Ball: Updates (Planet Vegeta Re-Calc, DBS Manga Downgrade)

    I'm referring to these pages; Where Goku Black says he thought he'd acquire all of Son Goku's own power immediately after taking his body, but he didn't. In order to get the full potential out of Goku's body, he underwent multiple Zenkai. As his cells regenerate from the damage he's taken...
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    Dragon Ball: Updates (Planet Vegeta Re-Calc, DBS Manga Downgrade)

    Well, you don't have to make a sandbox yet of course. I just think they're useful for being as clear as possible on the proposals.
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    Dragon Ball: Updates (Planet Vegeta Re-Calc, DBS Manga Downgrade)

    It's not just an argument from incredulity. It's based on Goku Black's own words. This isn't the part that's in dispute; remember I proposed that we rate Hit differently based on him holding back. I don't want to go round in circles on this; if anyone else creates a sandbox for a different...
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    Dragon Ball: Updates (Planet Vegeta Re-Calc, DBS Manga Downgrade)

    I didn't say he wasn't Zenkai boosting; but that isn't all that he's doing as we even see in his own words. Same reason why he initially couldn't even turn into a Super Saiyan to begin with. I didn't say it made perfect sense but it accounts for the drastic power difference. Making an...
  39. Damage3245

    Dragon Ball: Updates (Planet Vegeta Re-Calc, DBS Manga Downgrade)

    So your argument is that even though Goku Black had multiple Zenkais before fighting Vegeta, none of them were multiplying his power level infinitely. But then when he fought Vegeta, his Zenkai multiplied his power infinitely? A bit inconsistent, no? I think my explanation makes a lot more...
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    Dragon Ball: Updates (Planet Vegeta Re-Calc, DBS Manga Downgrade)

    Can't respond to everything here at the moment, but we clearly don't treat it as just a 160,000x power increase. The gap between Solar System level and Low Multiverse level is not 160,000x so it seems like we're being a bit selective for when this multiplier actually applies or not.
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