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This is a two-part downgrade thread where I intent to downgrade both the Nen multiplier of Ryu and Ko, as well as the speed of the verse. The first part will be dealing with the multipliers through Ryu and Ko specifically.
Let's start with the easy part, explaining why we currently believe...
Hey, I know you guys missed having those, right? Yeah, me neither. But this thread isn't a straight up revolution on the entire speed tier of HxH like the past threads were, if my reading is correct. This thread is only attempting to review and correct some honest mistakes and add some more...
HunterxHunter is severely overpowered for what it's writing is usually trying to convey - a god damn .9mm can get through a Hunter's Ko, which blocks piercing damage btw. Also, Massively Hypersonic+ is ridiculous for a verse that says it's most powerful human peaked at >Mach 1.
Weird angle is weird. Not sure we can measure that one.
Yeah, I got 21.9m from that. Sadge.
Doesn't seem a good one to use, Pitou is drawn as a stick figure for the funni.
Either way, even at 21m, we get a crater of 117m.
I get 21.7m when comparing Meruem to it as well, using his...
Priority: 3, possibly 2. (This scales to most if not all god tiers, including Neferpitou, Methuthuyoupi and Shaiapouf)
Verse: HunterxHunter
Description: This is a remake of Damage's pixelscaling on Youpi's Rage Blast. The reasoning why the remake is used is on the blog.
In this thread, me and @Shmeatywerbenmanjenson started debating over Youpi's feat, the basis for the entire god tier scaling outside of Post-Rose Meruem. We'd like a discus
EXPLANING THE CONTEXT OF THE FEAT
In this feat, Youpi accumulates a lot of rage, and Nen - the energy system of HxH -...
When it was favoring your Youpi height I didn't see you complaining. Meruem has an estimated height widely accepted in the HunterxHunter fandom, since he's obviously short than your average male, let's not get preachy over this very solid estimate (which we currently accept as valid since past...
Nevermind the fact Jajanken is a Hatsu technique, not Gyo, so we shouldn't generalize it at all in the first place.
Gon was actually using Transmutation in this particular panel, not enhancement. After all, he used Jan-ken-chi.
We shouldn't use a totally different aspect of Nen as evidence for...
...Hisoka can trick people into thinking he has reality bending abilities by sheer skill and some rubber-like ability, understand the human psyche to unparalleled extent that even puts Gon to shame. The skills levels in HunterxHunter rivals some pretty absurd shounen, so it's not comparable at...
This is a boost over their flesh strength. Currently, we consider the boost over their basic nen strength.
Again, this is still not quantifiable because we have no idea how strong their flesh strength is. 240x an unknown value (several dozen + 100% aura) justifies the 10 times multiplier how...
I was looking at HunterxHunter threads. These 50 ways were discussed back and forth several times, mostly about the size of the crater. The current panel was decided to be the most reliable, and required less pixelscaling.
The depth of the crater used the standard "(Diameter to depth ratio)"...
Fine.
Knuckle's A.A.P/M.A.O evaluation was based solely on Gon's Ken, not his Gyo or Ko, making this comparison worthless.
To further refute this, and prove that Knuckle was just referring to "Jan!!" as a reference for the timing of the increase:
The example used in the very panel he says...
So just because you used calculations from the verse page, you are not calc stacking, huh?
No. You're using the result of two calculations and using them in a new one, that's textbook calc stacking.
Use your eyes, and head.
Nen > ~24x > Flesh
Understand what? Ko is reinforcement. Their aura...
I think I know which one you mean. I was looking through them yesterday and it was really the only one that appeared to CS.
I don't think it's one of the unallowed applications of calc stacking, but it is that.
Now that's an irrefutable debunk. I missed it because I was reading japanese...
No you don't, cheeky lol
Youpi says he "noticed" the lightning bolt "only" when it was right above him, still very much says his perception should be able to see it coming beforehand - at least it's what the Japanese scan implies, although I don't even know if that Arc is reliable or not...
You're missing my point. This is confirmation that he did see the bolt when it was directly "on his face", aka, directly above him, "I didn't notice until it was close to me" is the verbatim the same as "I noticed it only when it was close to me". Reacting to it is a whole other story, I...
I'm sorry, it appears to me that the new blog, containing the Low 7-B result, uses a panel where the crater is much bigger in relation to Youpi. But in past threads, such as this one, the discussion and agreement of most supporters were that this panel, the first of the new blog, was the best...
Damage, you have admitted to being corrupt in the past. Several. Times. Why would I trust you in anything? You are a biased Staff.
I don't have a personal bias against you, I don't even know who you are. And on our first interaction, you confirm the very thing that's said about you in literally...
I am not against a higher result, I am a HunterxHunter supporter and would love to upgrade these characters. It just so happens that I'm not biased, not that you are, just informing my position.
If we have one where he is standing, thus requiring one less calculation, we have to pick that...
...of proof, either stop claiming it's an outlier, or counter with sufficient evidence. What you personally think is not relevant to how HunterxHunter is set on this wiki.
You are being willingly ignorant by a margin so high I could believe you're trolling.
Even if it was an unnatural...