I don't think it's helpful to our readers to just list a statistic as unknown because we personally consider the portrayed range too extreme.
It is, if the range is too extreme and it's inconsistent, we don't need to act like it is consistent or headcanon in mechanics that don't exist. We HAVE NEVER listed Variability in files for inconsistency in any other file (in fact remind me if we even allowed it for loose mechanical justifications like Toon Force), so creating exceptions for ONE SPECIFIC VERSE is nonsense.
Give an example. Again off the top of my head there are VERY FEW characters you can draw NO CONSISTENCY for, and they aren't exactly the characters you're thinking lol.
My proposal would be for the wiki as a whole, not just Marvel.
I mean yeah. It's called wanking. Solution isn't to acknowledge it, solution is to remove it.
I've been meaning to ask this, but does the inconsistency come from internal scaling or calculated feats? Like, is there no consistency of who's faster than the other or no consistency for what characters can and can't dodge?
Don't we already have a solution for this with "possibly" ratings?
It depends, so for instance the way I listed Northstar is probably demonstrative
I mean, unless people are willing to do the work, best course of action is to do that and not lie ig lol.
Now is speed in a few weeks every Marvel/DC character has no tier and are unknown in every single stats from AP to Durability with unknown LS,SS and intelligence because its too inconsistent.
You can call it whatever you want but it's exactly what you are arguing for, your argument is of inconsistencies which is true for all statistics, if it's accepted that speed is too inconsistent to give a concrete tier what's stopping the same thing happening for the rest of the statistics? I mean this thread has over 10 calcs and still not enough, Spiderman's H8-C has less support that this, Thor's 3-C has less support, LS for class M has less support than this.Slippery slope - Wikipedia
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Why should we do that, when it's consistent? These aren't random one-off things it's just how the verse works.
Is it? Where did you take that from? Team books where even Thor is moving at the same speed as Captain America? Or one off team ups for a single story in a 50 issue solo comic?
No it's not whatever, it's a fallacy. We don't allow fallacious arguments to be used on the wiki, repeated offenses are grounds for action. You're also strawmanning and many other things which if I was more pro-active in keeping track I'd point out, but frankly it's a waste of time.
Just asking.
700/10 is 70 per every calc
High 8-C is like, 100 and it has like 7 or 8 feats, and corroborative feats below. you tell me which has more backing?
Because you refuse to talk about who scales to it, actually 700 is based on the premise that every hypersonic will go to sub relativistic which is not the case, based on the OP less than 100 characters with pages would be affected by the upgrade
123 H8-C
Even 125/5 is 25/1, which is leagues less than 70/1
Quote where I said I refuse to let anyone talk about who scales. Refresh me where I said this.
The op are calcs not feats too. Not 70/1, it's at best 20/1 I don't know why you keep acting like the OP wants to upgrade all the 700 hypersonic characters to sub relativistic when the very OP clearly states that Captain America and co will just scale to High hypersonic and discussing if Spider people could potencially upgrade.
Considering you keep talking about "the 700+ characters" when the OP at no point says that they are all supposed to be upgraded to sub relativistic, I think you are refusing to talk about it.
So you can't quote shit, and just strawmanned me. Got it.
Most definetly not strawmanning, if something you are the one doing it when you corrupted the OP's argument by saying all 700 characters would be upgraded.
How many logical jumps did you make to get from "You are affecting scaling of 700 characters" to "I AM BANNING ANY AND ALL DISCUSSION OF SCALING AND REFUSING TO LET THIS THREAD PROCEED"
Indeed.
So instead of using feats and calcs, we will lazily put unknown at everyone because no one wishes to fix the actual problem that is this dogshit, held by duct tape, scaling chain? All because we gotta protect Abomination scaling to Elektra for some reason. Oh yes, The Thing, famous Elektra/DD supporting character. Honestly, I'd rather keep everything as it is or put everyone back at MFTL, but unknown? That's reserved for characters with actual zero shows of feats.
Let that sink in.
The more time passes the more I think M3X was right
What do you need?
Are you high?
So your response is...to lash out at everyone and act like no one knows anything but you? And also act shock that the verse moved on when you were away for two years? And question the competency of wiki staff?
Literally didn't say this
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Always, 100%, Guaranteed, never stopped it.
(He means the thread where he tried to scale Scarlet Witch to 9-A off of a 3-C character)
(He means the threads where he adds shit for 40 characters in one CRT including multiple tiering changes that had to be removed afterwards, and then constantly complains offsite that the thread is taking too long)
(He means the Scarlet Witch thread again, where he read 49 issues out of a thousand and claimed to be a Scarlet Witch expert off that, and I ended up having read those 49 issues AND MORE to show him he was wrong, and not a single person said yes to his reasoning after the debunks.)
I wasn't even referring to the SW CRT but now that you mention it, that case is a good example of you rejecting calcs and feats based of glorified vibes, something which you tend to do quite frequently.
