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Champion of Midgard: The Thor Odinson MegaCRT

I don't think that who scales to Thor should be decided here. Right now, this is only about Thor's profile getting revamped/upgraded. I brought up Nyx because that is directly relevant to the purpose of the thread. Scaling off of her makes All-Father Thor High 1-A in the proposal, and people earlier brought up issues with that.

Now after this thread there will be ramifications. For one, there will have to be a feat gathering thread for the new Herald Tier. But the central topic of this thread can be handled.
 
ObberGobb said:
I don't think that who scales to Thor should be decided here. Right now, this is only about Thor's profile getting revamped/upgraded. I brought up Nyx because that is directly relevant to the purpose of the thread. Scaling off of her makes All-Father Thor High 1-A in the proposal, and people earlier brought up issues with that.

Now after this thread there will be ramifications. For one, there will have to be a feat gathering thread for the new Herald Tier. But the central topic of this thread can be handled.
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Yes please haha. If we keep spiraling off every tangent that's related to Thor scaling then the thread will never be concluded and we'll never get anything done
 
NaturalDestroyer said:
I certainly didn't intend for this to become a verse wide thing. I'd much prefer for the directly relevant Thor stuff to be addressed and applied before revising the tiers of half the profiles.
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Sure, but for clarity you do understand nothing will get applied in the aftermath of this thread presently, and it would require multiple threads of just scaling discussions? Like this is borderline an year-long revision lol

Right now let's just try to narrow down to feats that are even usable.
 
The_Impress said:
Sure, but for clarity you do understand nothing will get applied in the aftermath of this thread presently, and it would require multiple threads of just scaling discussions?
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Why do you think it would require multiple threads to apply the proposed Thor changes?
 
The_Impress said:
Ugh fine, so out of the feats presented, the following are the only feats done without some form of roundabout scaling where the character is their current tier for scaling to Thor:

Unworthy Thor:​


This is alt. universe bullshit.

Nothing states this is the length of a solar system, unless there is some wild ass out-of-comic statement you're using.

They literally say it's not entirely their work. Quentine Quire gets Phoenix to quit, and except the Mother Storm nothing really seems to harm her.

This is borderline a range feat tbh

Also genuine question, why are we acting like he has full physical scaling to his weather manip?

God of Hammers Thor​


I will note ******* everyone fights Robbie Reyes here and survives, and Juggernaut was defeated by a specific hammer and wasn't taking the fight all that seriously.

Also there are antifeats here
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Also probably address these.
 
ObberGobb said:
Why do you think it would require multiple threads to apply the proposed Thor changes?
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Because no sane supporter would change a singular file's feats when said file is scaled to 300 dudes or something and fundamentally breaks their scaling? Especially when said singular file is slated to use feats from characters of those 300 files?

Like you probably know how weirdly hyper-reliant that one random ass revision from back in the day has made tiers above 5-B on Thor. It's not smart, but then again that is one of the worst applied revisions on the wiki (which funniy enough was also from the same OP)
 
The_Impress said:
Because no sane supporter would change a singular file's feats when said file is scaled to 300 dudes or something and fundamentally breaks their scaling? Especially when said singular file is slated to use feats from characters of those 300 files?

Like you probably know how weirdly hyper-reliant that one random ass revision from back in the day has made tiers above 5-B on Thor. It's not smart, but then again that is one of the worst applied revisions on the wiki (which funniy enough was also from the same OP)
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Fair enough. If Thor is going to be separated from Heralds as this thread proposes, then a Herald feat-gathering thread will be needed to find Herald feats NOT from Thor. Do you think that this thread should be put on hold until Heralds are sorted out?
 
Prolly. I'm not even particularly sold on nulling Herald scaling tbh, alot of the proposed feats are reliant on God scaling which recursively have prominent Herald scaling.
 
The_Impress said:
Prolly. I'm not even particularly sold on nulling Herald scaling tbh, alot of the proposed feats are reliant on God scaling which recursively have prominent Herald scaling.
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What do you think should be done about Herald/God scaling? And could you clarify what you mean about God scaling recursively having Herald scaling?
 
That's going off topic, right now let's just verify the feats first.

Of the feats I've listed, I did give comments on a few but I haven't accepted any of them, or have had the opportunity to check, so staff/supporter help is appreciated.

I think we can disregard High 8-C and lower for now.

Also I'd recommend probably don't use feats from the 70s or earlier, this isn't a rigid rule but before handbooks Marvel was looser with their powerscaling.
 
The_Impress said:
Also I'd recommend probably don't use feats from the 70s or earlier, this isn't a rigid rule but before handbooks Marvel was looser with their powerscaling.
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I think we should generally avoid 60s feats, but by the Bronze Age in the 70s I think enough of the Marvel "mythos" had established itself that it is more reliable than the 60s. Of course, it must be established that feats from the 70s are consistent with stuff that happens in decades following.

I will take a closer look at the feats tomorrow. Looking through them, there are a few I have a problem with. Generally, I think that any fest that basically amounts to "not being one-shot by X character" or "staggering Y character" should not be used at all.
 
The_Impress said:
Because no sane supporter would change a singular file's feats when said file is scaled to 300 dudes or something and fundamentally breaks their scaling? Especially when said singular file is slated to use feats from characters of those 300 files?

Like you probably know how weirdly hyper-reliant that one random ass revision from back in the day has made tiers above 5-B on Thor. It's not smart, but then again that is one of the worst applied revisions on the wiki (which funniy enough was also from the same OP)
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What revision was that?
 
If we're going to redo Herald scaling that should also probably be its own thing. This thread really isn't proposing any radical rescaling--for base Thor, the one that a few people scale to, we'd basically just be removing the 3-C because it's not really based on anything. He already has up to Tier 1 in base and that shouldn't change.
 
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