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Pokemon Discussion Thread - Red & Blue arc

Jinx666 said:
Not beat down as in they can specifically solo them or smthn, but theres multiple showinsg of them fighting and harming the likes of Rayquaza, 50% Zygarde, Gouging Flame, Galarian Moltres (and the rest of the comparable Six Heroes). This is even while their Pokemon such as Crocalor and Floragato weren't fully evolved.
Roy had caught Rayquaza officially, Liko has had Terapagos for ages now, even one of the side characters has Pecharunt.
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Wow.

Still Ash victims smh
 
Random, but Wailord's page appears to be incorrect. It is currently listed at 7-A because it apparently "swallows schools of Wishiwashi whole", and seeing as the Solo Form of Wishiwashi is "Below Average Human", I'm assuming the implication is that Wailord swallows Schooling Form Wishiwashi. This does not appear to be the case looking at the Pokedex.

Wailord dex entry in Pokemon Sun:
Wailord pursue their prey in pods. With their large mouths, they can swallow entire schools of Wishiwashi whole.
Wailord dex entry in Pokemon Ultra Sun:
They eat so many fish Pokémon that when Wailord become too numerous, fishermen have to chase them off.
The Alola dex entries for Wailord demonstrate that the defining traits being emphasized are Wailord's huge mouth and volume of prey; that is to say, opening its mouth to consume an entire school of fish in one bite. Wishiwashi 'schools' do not always refer to the powerful form of the same name, and can be and have been used to refer to a typical gathering of Wishiwashi.

Wishiwashi dex entry in Ultra Moon:
Called “demon of the sea” by some, when Wishiwashi are injured in battle and their numbers dwindle, they become a regular school.
Schooling Form is also called a 'formation' by the Pokedex, indicating this is not just the result of schooling, but of the Wishiwashi coming together and assembling into the Schooling Form.
Wishiwashi Dex entry in Ultra Sun:
Wishiwashi assemble in this formation to face off against strong foes. It boasts a strength that earned it the name “demon of the sea.”

New Pokemon Snap also directly depicts Wailord attempting to swallow a school of Solo Form Wishiwashi, then being chased away when they assemble into the Schooling Form. Subsequently, I think Wailord scaling to Schooling Form Wishiwashi is... not accurate
 
CoppeliaCallahan said:
Random, but Wailord's page appears to be incorrect. It is currently listed at 7-A because it apparently "swallows schools of Wishiwashi whole", and seeing as the Solo Form of Wishiwashi is "Below Average Human", I'm assuming the implication is that Wailord swallows Schooling Form Wishiwashi. This does not appear to be the case looking at the Pokedex.

Wailord dex entry in Pokemon Sun:
Wailord pursue their prey in pods. With their large mouths, they can swallow entire schools of Wishiwashi whole.
Wailord dex entry in Pokemon Ultra Sun:
They eat so many fish Pokémon that when Wailord become too numerous, fishermen have to chase them off.
The Alola dex entries for Wailord demonstrate that the defining traits being emphasized are Wailord's huge mouth and volume of prey; that is to say, opening its mouth to consume an entire school of fish in one bite. Wishiwashi 'schools' do not always refer to the powerful form of the same name, and can be and have been used to refer to a typical gathering of Wishiwashi.

Wishiwashi dex entry in Ultra Moon:
Called “demon of the sea” by some, when Wishiwashi are injured in battle and their numbers dwindle, they become a regular school.
Schooling Form is also called a 'formation' by the Pokedex, indicating this is not just the result of schooling, but of the Wishiwashi coming together and assembling into the Schooling Form.
Wishiwashi Dex entry in Ultra Sun:
Wishiwashi assemble in this formation to face off against strong foes. It boasts a strength that earned it the name “demon of the sea.”

New Pokemon Snap also directly depicts Wailord attempting to swallow a school of Solo Form Wishiwashi, then being chased away when they assemble into the Schooling Form. Subsequently, I think Wailord scaling to Schooling Form Wishiwashi is... not accurate
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I've thought about the exact same thing, but it doesn't really matter because Wailord is Mountain+ while School Form Wishiwashi is Large Mountain. The Pokecology book shows the same thing
 
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So I think I've realized a funny thing - TM and HM moves could be treated as a separate optional ability tabber.
See, in ORAS (which I am playing) you can catch Pokemon in the wild that have a unique move that they cannot naturally learn. This means that Pokemon have an innate capacity for a variety of moves and could technically use all forms of attack if they tried to learn it. To give an example, I have a Poochyena that knows Thunder Fang, something it doesn't learn under normal circumstances.
This is further supported by giveaway pokemon that have unique moves and Alpha Pokemon that have TM moves.

In short, I honestly think we should at least include these moves separately in the future, as in like the optional equipment tab.
 
Arceus0x said:
So I think I've realized a funny thing - TM and HM moves could be treated as a separate optional ability tabber.
See, in ORAS (which I am playing) you can catch Pokemon in the wild that have a unique move that they cannot naturally learn. This means that Pokemon have an innate capacity for a variety of moves and could technically use all forms of attack if they tried to learn it. To give an example, I have a Poochyena that knows Thunder Fang, something it doesn't learn under normal circumstances.
This is further supported by giveaway pokemon that have unique moves and Alpha Pokemon that have TM moves.

In short, I honestly think we should at least include these moves separately in the future, as in like the optional equipment tab.
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There's also Egg Moves and Move Tutor type moves.
 
Arceus0x said:
it'd be a job for way later but considering that in we could make profiles a lot more versatile.
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And I didn't even bring up event moves such as Growth for Eevee since they're a weird situation. As well as rewards like Pikachu learning Surf.
 
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