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Thor (God of War) vs Doomslayer


A well made vs match OP for reference, you can browse tons of other ones.
 

A well made vs match OP for reference, you can browse tons of other ones.
So I put in images too?
 
Does Doomguy's Fate hax actually do anything in the middle of combat for anyone else or is it just the fact the Makyrs are fated to die to Doomguy?
 
Does Doomguy's Fate hax actually do anything in the middle of combat for anyone else or is it just the fact the Makyrs are fated to die to Doomguy?
He's basically described to be the only universal constant in the DOOM verse, among an uncounably infinite amount of possibilities.

Also referrals as being "DOOM" itself etc, he's basically inevitability in the verse, for the Demons, Maykrs, and any other being he faces
Citations of him always coming, prophecies of the coming of the destroyer

Kinda like a sort of gospel of a being that will inevitably come for something, in every possibility
That's like the gist of it
 
I'd just like to clarify, that Doomslayer beat a 6D being with ease, and that the 6D is not baseline, he has powerups that bring him beyond that point, so frankly i think he just blood punches Thor's head off.

A 6D dimension is just an extension of Davoth not the full extend of his power, it doesn't account for the rest of the verse, as the DOOM cosmology is kinda huge.
So even Davoth scales above baseline 6D. Baseline 6D < Davoth < Doomslayer < Doomslayer with powerups basically

So in terms of stat check, he most likely still stat checks Kratos as well

And his rage gives a HUGE stat boost, which we know now from DOOM The Dark Ages, where he fought Ahzrak

He basically went from losing to Enhanced Ahzrak, being overpowered by his enhanced from with a pure stat check, to then Ahzrak transformimg, becoming even stronger, with the slayer then becoming enraged, and gaining such a massive stat boost to the point where he easily beat transformed Ahzrak.
 
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None of the above is really notable when there's already actual oneshot gaps above baseline that Thor scales above.

And of course, he can just oneshot with Info 2 hax, so I guess it comes down to how Doomguy's Fate hax will save him from that.
 
So beyond it being a prophecy of him being a thing in the DOOM series, nothing much about it goes into him rewriting fate to where he always wins? I feel like Thor should just win via one tapping with hax.
 
None of the above is really notable when there's already actual oneshot gaps above baseline that Thor scales above.

And of course, he can just oneshot with Info 2 hax, so I guess it comes down to how Doomguy's Fate hax will save him from that.
Urdak is baseline 6-D, Hell scales above Urdak by a large margin, Earth's multiverse is 5-D, with a countless amount of other dimensions being just a mere extension of davoth's power, and the Void that contains Hell, Urdak and the entire cosmology.

Base Slayer scales above this by effortlessly defeating him, and then scales above that with higher powerups and rage boost.

DOOM's cosmology is significantly larger than that of GoW.
We don't even have a page for the Cosmic realm, which is also higher dimensional.
 
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If he scales to multiple 1-C structures at once, then this just becomes who hits first, cause of Thor's soul magic.

Edit: If not, then he's just nebulously above baseline, as opposed to Thor being at least 10 times baseline in power via scaling to Drakes, whom are tenfold the strength of Dragons.
 
So beyond it being a prophecy of him being a thing in the DOOM series, nothing much about it goes into him rewriting fate to where he always wins? I feel like Thor should just win via one tapping with hax.
It's more like passive fate manipulation that's tied to him being an unavoidable constant
He's described as the destroyer, that will always come no matter what for example (his enemies) in context
Don't think him being rewritten to always win is wrong either, as he won in every single one, against everything.
But yeah, this can just be called an NLF.

basically a modal necessity, but in the form of inevitable destruction (which is rewriting to win in my books)

either way, it's not simply a prophecy, as the things actually happened in every possibility, despite them looking through an uncountably infinite amount of possibilities in order to escape
 
So the Fate hax isn't really something to worry about, then the real question is if Doomguy does have the high end scaling chain to make this a "who shoots first situation", cause considering how high Thor's power is in the Norse Pantheon, I feel like we're gonna need a bit more than just a "Doomguy is much stronger than a dude who created the DOOM multiverse" to see if he can even outstrength Thor here.
 
So the Fate hax isn't really something to worry about, then the real question is if Doomguy does have the high end scaling chain to make this a "who shoots first situation", cause considering how high Thor's power is in the Norse Pantheon, I feel like we're gonna need a bit more than just a "Doomguy is much stronger than a dude who created the DOOM multiverse" to see if he can even outstrength Thor here.
Uhh, I'm pretty sure the Gap between Hell and Urdak alone covers that

Hell is directly stated to be superior to Urdak, and hell is large enough to cover the entirety of the cosmology including Urdak, outside of the void. With hell Then being an extension of Davoth's power.

Urdak < Hell (surrounds the entire cosmology and is endlessly expansive in nature) < Samur Maykr (Father's power) < Davoth (Entire cosmology is an extension of him including Hell) < Doomslayer effortlessly beat him, With the Doomslayer still having his rage amp, and other power boosts.

Edit: Primevals in general, are stated to be so powerful that dimensions are only capable of holding one, simply due to how strong they are, not even with them actively trying to destroy it's just by existing

And the slayer is stated to be above primevals
 
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Doom fate hax and probability is just no matter what Markyr gonna do they gonna lose against Doomguys and dude will always come back to fight. So it is a long and slow effect hax, so unless Thor decide to play with him for years i doubt the hax is going to have any real effect

Also he should lose the ability in Doom Eternal cause Markyr was pretty much destroyed at that time. The only ability left is the thing that always make him come back to fight evil, which was show in Doom Dark Age that dude can actually come back from death, but the profile still have yet to have Dark Age stuff in it
 
OP is new and theres no advertised guide on how to make a matchup thread

cut them some slack
We have an entire page for that.
 
We have an entire page for that.
OP is new and theres no advertised guide on how to make a matchup thread

cut them some slack
 
Doom fate hax and probability is just no matter what Markyr gonna do they gonna lose against Doomguys and dude will always come back to fight. So it is a long and slow effect hax, so unless Thor decide to play with him for years i doubt the hax is going to have any real effect

Also he should lose the ability in Doom Eternal cause Markyr was pretty much destroyed at that time. The only ability left is the thing that always make him come back to fight evil, which was show in Doom Dark Age that dude can actually come back from death, but the profile still have yet to have Dark Age stuff in it
He's the prophesized "destroyer", don't necessarily see why it would suddenly disappear after destroying the Maykr's, like it's not tied to them specifically.
And it's not the only prophecy we got

We don't know yet if he actually lost his powers it doesn't really make sense either, as we know there are beings stronger than Davoth, and that are beyond the Void.
If he lost it, it'd make him mortal , as they sealed him away the exact same way, in Ingmore's keep where the essence of gods is kept.
"May the blood on your sword never dry, and may we never need you again"

Basically implying if no evil rises again, he'll be there waiting for eternity
His ability to return in TDA is also from Davoth's essence, as it's tied to the Slayer and Davoth's mark.
 
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That still doesn’t tell me much on scaling beyond “they’re superior” so that still sounds like normal upscaling
 
Also, why would this race not being aware of him tell me anything about their power?
 
Also he should lose the ability in Doom Eternal cause Markyr was pretty much destroyed at that time.
Wrong
He was fated to destroy Maykrs but eventually it grew to the point where he is fated to defeat Evil entirely, including Davoth.
Also, why would this race not being aware of him tell me anything about their power?
I can answer if yall fill me in but I think Doom vs GoW matchups are just boring "who hits first" stuff from what I can gather?
 
For scaling

Urdak is scaled to 6th dimensions right now. Hell on the other hand is directly stated to be far superior to it. Divinity Machine that can scan the entire 6D part of the cosmology can't even see Hell at all due to its size, it is completely unlimited by the boundaries of space, time, or dimension which includes Urdak's 6D scalings. I lowkey think its 7D but eh.
Meanwhile the Void encompasses all of Hell completely and its only a small part of it, its like Hell is a fish while Void is the ocean.

Doom Guy scales a one shot above characters who directly scale to the Void and has powers ups and insane AD on top of it

I don't understand how people still misinterpret Doom Guys page, I thought I worded the fate stuff well!! 😭
 
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