Fortnite: Thor (2020) #1 is part of the canonicity

Ultimate-Rex1 · Sunday at 15:27

Before I start, I should tell you that this thread does not discuss the following:

It is not about the Marvel cosmology within Fortnite. This thread will only address whether Thor (2020) #1 is part of Fortnite's continuity.
Fortnite does not scale to Marvel cosmology, as it is merely an alternate continuity. In Fortnite, the Zero Point is the primordial creation responsible for creating everything, which contradicts the previously established origins of Marvel Comics.

So let's start now:
It is stated that the Nexus War comics begin after the events of Thor (2020) #1, meaning that Thor (2020) #1 is canon to Fortnite's continuity. The other issues, however, are not part of it for the following reasons:

So, simply put, Thor (2020) #1 is the only event that is canon to Fortnite and is confirmed to have occurred within its continuity.

Agree:	Disagree:	Neutral:
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Nierre · Sunday at 15:30

seems simple enough agreed

Zanesucksatlife · Sunday at 15:39

Seems simple + agree

Tomfer · Sunday at 21:39

So... What is the goal of this thread? Like what would even change for Fortnite cosmology/scaling/whatever else?

Ultimate-Rex1 · Sunday at 21:50

Tomfer said:
So... What is the goal of this thread? Like what would even change for Fortnite cosmology/scaling/whatever else?

It's just add more canon, it's don't change anything in cosmology or scaling for now (~~but i just want to make Thor and the Black Winter profiles~~)

Tomfer · Sunday at 21:54

Ultimate-Rex1 said:
for now

PurposeDevine00 · Sunday at 23:34

I agree, looks good

Elizhaa · Monday at 04:44

I think it is fine.

Antvasima · Monday at 09:04

Just a note that we absolutely cannot use extremely unreliable crossover scaling to upgrade an entire verse to ridiculous extremes (High 1-A).

By that logic we would have to upgrade South Park and the Simpsons to High 1-A as well based on their crossovers with Fortnite, as well as all of the many other verses it has crossed over with.

The_Impress · Monday at 09:46

What does this even achieve? If it's "Thor and Black Winter in Fortnite are valid to get separate files that exclusively use Cates' shit", no, they're still 616 versions.

Ultimate-Rex1 · Monday at 12:11

Antvasima said:
Just a note that we absolutely cannot use extremely unreliable crossover scaling to upgrade an entire verse to ridiculous extremes (High 1-A).

By that logic we would have to upgrade South Park and the Simpsons to High 1-A as well based on their crossovers with Fortnite, as well as all of the many other verses it has crossed over with.

It's in the OP; this isn't about Marvel's cosmology.

The_Impress said:
What does this even achieve? If it's "Thor and Black Winter in Fortnite are valid to get separate files that exclusively use Cates' shit", no, they're still 616 versions.

Thor is the only one who might get a profile, but there are also contradictions between Marvel's cosmology and Fortnite's cosmology. However, this CRT isn't about making Marvel's cosmology part of Fortnite.

AyOgUyS · Monday at 12:59

I'm confused on what OP is trying to achieve. Could someone explain it better?

Ultimate-Rex1 · Monday at 13:06

AyOgUyS said:
I'm confused on what OP is trying to achieve. Could someone explain it better?

Just adding more canon material? I'm simply trying to explain that the event of Thor (2020) #1 are part of Fortnite's canon.

~~My point is only that this specific event is canon to Fortnite, not that the entirety of Marvel's cosmology should be considered part of Fortnite's cosmology.~~

AyOgUyS · Monday at 13:11

Ultimate-Rex1 said:
Just adding more canon material? I'm simply trying to explain that the event of Thor (2020) #1 are part of Fortnite's canon.

~~My point is only that this specific event is canon to Fortnite, not that the entirety of Marvel's cosmology should be considered part of Fortnite's cosmology.~~

How does this affect scaling? We have very strict rules on crossover scaling.

Ultimate-Rex1 · Monday at 13:29

AyOgUyS said:
How does this affect scaling? We have very strict rules on crossover scaling.

Fortnite's cosmology wouldn't scale to Marvel's cosmology, as I stated above

Ultimate-Rex1 said:
It is not about the Marvel cosmology within Fortnite. This thread will only address whether Thor (2020) #1 is part of Fortnite's continuity.

Fortnite does not scale to Marvel cosmology, as it is merely an alternate continuity. In Fortnite, the Zero Point is the primordial creation responsible for creating everything, which contradicts the previously established origins of Marvel Comics.

However, this comics can provide additional context for events within Fortnite's canon. For example, they explain what the Black Winter is and offer more information about the nature of Reality.

AyOgUyS · Monday at 13:31

Ultimate-Rex1 said:
Fortnite's cosmology wouldn't scale to Marvel's cosmology, as I stated above

However, this comics can provide additional context for events within Fortnite's canon. For example, they explain what the Black Winter is and offer more information about the nature of Reality.

So...this will not affect the scaling of any of the characters? Sorry, I think I may still be misunderstanding.

Ultimate-Rex1 · Monday at 13:33

AyOgUyS said:
So...this will not affect the scaling of any of the characters? Sorry, I think I may still be misunderstanding.

Yes, it wouldn't affect scaling at all

AyOgUyS · Monday at 13:37

Ultimate-Rex1 said:
Yes, it wouldn't affect scaling at all

I mean then I guess it's fine? I have a sneaking suspicion that this will be used for a High 1-A Fortnite thread in the future but eh whatever I'll stay Neutral for now ig.

ActuallySpaceMan42 · Tuesday at 00:49

Yeah, pretty clear cut

Antvasima · Tuesday at 02:11

So what should we do based on this thread specifically?

PurposeDevine00 · Tuesday at 02:17

Antvasima said:
So what should we do based on this thread specifically?

We should make a Black Winter (Fortnite) profile and scale him to wherever he would be in Fortnite And also Upgrade Thor and The other affected characters.

Antvasima · Tuesday at 02:24

Do we have a Fortnite version profile for Thor? Also, upgrade to what statistics exactly?

Ultimate-Rex1 · Tuesday at 02:32

PurposeDevine00 said:
We should make a Black Winter (Fortnite) profile and scale him to wherever he would be in Fortnite And also Upgrade Thor and The other affected characters.

I don't think so, Black Winter can be add to the Cosmology instead of making profile. Also Thor still doesn't have profile, so no it wouldn't affected characters for now until Thor profile was made

Ultimate-Rex1 · Tuesday at 02:40

Antvasima said:
So what should we do based on this thread specifically?

It should only added a note to the page stating that the events of Thor (2020) #1 are continued in the Fortnite universe:

The events of Thor (2020) #1 continue into the Fortnite universe, as the Nexus War comics begin immediately after the events of Thor (2020) #1. However, the subsequent issues are not considered part of Fortnite's continuity for the following reasons:

In Thor (2020) #2, after Galactus consumed the first planet, Beta Ray Bill appeared, attacked Galactus, and attempted to warn Thor about him.

In Nexus War, Thor and Galactus were on their way to the second planet when their journey was interrupted by the appearance of the Rift. As a result, Galactus abandoned his mission of consuming the remaining four planets and instead focused on the Zero Point, prompting Thor to oppose him and attempt to stop him alongside the Avengers.

It should be fine to add it now?

Antvasima · Tuesday at 02:48

We need specifics about the statistics that you wish to set for Thor and Galactus first.

Ultimate-Rex1 · Tuesday at 02:55

Antvasima said:
We need specifics about the statistics that you wish to set for Thor and Galactus first.

Galactus has his own profile in the verse. But Thor would only scale to Galactus in terms of speed, since he can move faster than him. However, the problem is with tier scaling, as he hasn’t shown any notable feats so far, except when he and Storm briefly controlled Ice King’s storm.

~~I don’t really have a plan for Thor’s profile, since he has many issues with scaling.~~

Ultimate-Rex1 · Tuesday at 03:35

Antvasima said:
We need specifics about the statistics that you wish to set for Thor and Galactus first.

Ultimate-Rex1 said:
It should only added a note to the page stating that the events of Thor (2020) #1 are continued in the Fortnite universe:

It should be fine to add it now?

Can it be added now?

Antvasima · Tuesday at 13:53

I still don't know what the intended endgame is here exactly. Is this an initial change to enable very extreme scaling later?

Ultimate-Rex1 · Tuesday at 14:05

Antvasima said:
I still don't know what the intended endgame is here exactly. Is this an initial change to enable very extreme scaling later?

Technically, no. There are no plans for any "very extreme scaling" in the near future, as I'm still reviewing feats in Fortnite. However, at best, there is an cosmology review and attack speed feat for Thor, as he can throw Mjolnir across multiple realms.

Antvasima · Tuesday at 15:30

Okay. I suppose that this revision seems harmless in that case, but no crossover cosmology scaling is allowed afterwards.

Ultimate-Rex1 · Tuesday at 15:46

Added. It can be close now.

Ultimate-Rex1 · Tuesday at 18:08

PurposeDevine00 said:
Wait, don't close it yet.

Why? If you have question, there general discussion for verse

Fortnite Discussion Thread

I didn't see one for this series and I want to scale more of it (especially since the verse is very outdated) To-Do List: Upgrade the verse beyond Tier 8/7 Update the verse with new equipment and add different keys for seasons among other things. Overall just make things cleaner-looking

vsbattles.com

Ultimate-Rex1 · Tuesday at 18:54

Antvasima said:
Okay. I suppose that this revision seems harmless in that case, but no crossover cosmology scaling is allowed afterwards.

Can you please close thread?

Nierre · Tuesday at 19:14

there's still more to be discussed apparently

Tomfer · Tuesday at 20:06

Fortnite: Cosmology Upgrade/Page Clean Up

Here we are with another thread. The primary goal this time is to overhaul and clean up the current cosmology page, alongside implementing several upgrades and downgrades to the cosmology. New Cosmology Page This is the new cosmology page. Its core remains the same as the current one, though it...

vsbattles.com

"It's just add more canon, it's don't change anything in cosmology or scaling for now"

Gives an entire dimension NP and BD thanks to crosscaling.

C'mon, man. We asked you what the scaling would do and you made it sound like it was just a funny cosmetic change. You said it could be used as more evidence, but you never said evidence to WHAT. We do not know Fortnite scaling, we gotta have more information.

AmonInChains · Tuesday at 20:09

We do have rules about this btw. This was a sneaky upgrade to the whole cosmology lmao.

Xdsagecat · Tuesday at 20:11

Tomfer said:
Fortnite: Cosmology Upgrade/Page Clean Up

Here we are with another thread. The primary goal this time is to overhaul and clean up the current cosmology page, alongside implementing several upgrades and downgrades to the cosmology. New Cosmology Page This is the new cosmology page. Its core remains the same as the current one, though it...

vsbattles.com

"It's just add more canon, it's don't change anything in cosmology or scaling for now"

C'mon, man. We asked you what the scaling would do and you made it sound like it was just a funny cosmetic change. You said it could be used as more evidence, but you never said evidence to WHAT. We do not know Fortnite scaling, we gotta have more information.

Lmaooooo

Ultimate-Rex1 · Tuesday at 20:14

Tomfer said:
Fortnite: Cosmology Upgrade/Page Clean Up

Here we are with another thread. The primary goal this time is to overhaul and clean up the current cosmology page, alongside implementing several upgrades and downgrades to the cosmology. New Cosmology Page This is the new cosmology page. Its core remains the same as the current one, though it...

vsbattles.com

"It's just add more canon, it's don't change anything in cosmology or scaling for now"

C'mon, man. We asked you what the scaling would do and you made it sound like it was just a funny cosmetic change. You said it could be used as more evidence, but you never said evidence to WHAT. We do not know Fortnite scaling, we gotta have more information.

"Gives an entire dimension NP and BD thanks to crosscaling." Yh no, it's not from Crossover, it's from Game storyline and events.
I'm pretty sure that i says what would affects

Ultimate-Rex1 said:
Technically, no. There are no plans for any "very extreme scaling" in the near future, as I'm still reviewing feats in Fortnite. However, at best, there is an cosmology review and attack speed feat for Thor, as he can throw Mjolnir across multiple realms.

Ultimate-Rex1 said:
Galactus has his own profile in the verse. But Thor would only scale to Galactus in terms of speed, since he can move faster than him. However, the problem is with tier scaling, as he hasn’t shown any notable feats so far, except when he and Storm briefly controlled Ice King’s storm.

~~I don’t really have a plan for Thor’s profile, since he has many issues with scaling.~~

Ultimate-Rex1 said:
I don't think so, Black Winter can be add to the Cosmology instead of making profile. Also Thor still doesn't have profile, so no it wouldn't affected characters for now until Thor profile was made

Ultimate-Rex1 said:
Fortnite's cosmology wouldn't scale to Marvel's cosmology, as I stated above

However, this comics can provide additional context for events within Fortnite's canon. For example, they explain what the Black Winter is and offer more information about the nature of Reality.

PurposeDevine00 · Tuesday at 20:16

@Ultimate-Rex1

You can close the thread since its been accepted.

Tomfer · Tuesday at 20:20

Ultimate-Rex1 said:
"Gives an entire dimension NP and BD thanks to crosscaling." Yh no, it's not from Crossover. Just it's from Game storyline and events.

I'm pretty sure that i says what would affects

You talked AROUND the topic, we directly asked WHAT WOULD THIS BE USED FOR. We wanted to know what this would be used as evidence, like "Yeah, I'm using this comic to add justifcation for "Nonexistent Physiology (Nature Type 2; Aspects Type 2, 3, 4 & 5) and Beyond-Dimensional Existence (Type 1)." These type of haxs require additional attention, ESPECIALLY HERE. The least you could do was provide us with the blog you made for us to read and see what you were going to post.

And "Black Winter is the True End of Everything in the Omniverse. It is the embodiment of true death and exists as a great black void that mortal minds cannot comprehend. As such, it should qualify for Nonexistent Physiology (Nature Type 1; Aspects Type 2, 3, 4, and 5)." Sounds like a pretty important thing to talk about IMO.

Also, the "back-up" evidence is twice as long as the "main" one. Funny thing.

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