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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

I'm going to post the calc(s) I was talking about despite getting completely aired. I'm sure someone will tweak it or make their own. The pixel scaling isn't shown and there's at least one issue:

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Mayuri's Shunpo is imperceptible to Uryu. From the HM Arc, we know Uryu can perceive movements that happen in a very short timeframe. These calcs use 1/3,000,000 seconds, based on Seele Schneider, but this could be an overestimation. This is Uryu's own weapon, it's possible he knew its specifications without having to perceive its vibrations. However, as I posted before somewhere, Uryu could actually perceive Cirucci's vibrations which peak at 1/1,300,000 for a revolution. So Uryu's minimum perception time is equivalent to this and Mayuri perception blitzed him across several metres.

Someone may ask, why are you scaling HM Arc Uryu to SS Arc Uryu? Well, Uryu actually peaked in SS Arc in terms of Quincy powers and Uryu attributes the perception ability to his nature as a Quincy as opposed to ability. The latter is an inference but the former is confirmed in the manga and Bleach Official Character Book Souls Page 157:

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Bottom right — 散霊手套 (Sanrei Tetto):

この手甲を装備した白む晩、鍛錬すれば、滅却師として最高に近い力を得られる。

Kono tekkou wo soubi shita shiramu ban, tanren sureba, Kuinshī to ***** saikō ni chikai chikara wo erareru.


“By training through the nights wearing this gauntlet, one can attain power approaching the pinnacle of what a Quincy can achieve.”
1 Major issue: This is base Uryu getting perception blitzed, not transformed Uryu who's "at the peak of his quincy powers"
 
I am pretty sure there is the title card statement of Senjumaru's reiatsu travelling from the soul king palace to the soul society and human world. So that could easily be FTL for the top tiers. The satellite feat with Arc's accepted end would be good for anyone who scales to or above Fullbring arc Kenpachi which includes Unohana ig.
Bleach TYBW anime Episode 26 summary:

The raw japanese:

強大な霊圧による衝撃が、尸魂界から現世にまで届く。

Every translation to english says something like:

"The shockwave from an overwhelming spiritual pressure reached all the way from the Soul Society to the Human World."
 
That scan does NOT necessitate Ceros having a fixed speed; that's a significant leap in logic. It wouldn't make sense in the series either.

If you want to get solid Bleach speed scaling, start with Mayuri perception blitzing Uryu, who has a canonical perception time minimum.
There is also ulquioura perception blitzing uryu too.
 
Haven’t checked this site in while because most active members said they’ll wait for cour 4 to end before doing new threads.
But why is there so many downgrade threads that seem to be done fast?
I see no new arguments in them, same things from years ago but the only difference is the members who argued for them back then are on a hiatsu now.
 


We got the official Viz account posting Aizen aura farming edits before GTA 6.
 
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BTW I checked the Grimmjow's lightning statement and the quote compares his speed to Candice lightning not that he runs in zigzag or something like that, so it can be used to calc the distance to the palace.
 
BTW I checked the Grimmjow's lightning statement and the quote compares his speed to Candice lightning not that he runs in zigzag or something like that, so it can be used to calc the distance to the palace.
Just send the raws to the site translator. It will be support evidence for ichigo being able to move that fast. I will also add ichigo's travel speed feats like him crossing the Royal Palace cites and 1000s of KM in seconds
 
It's more like no one is discussing the matter decisively
Assuming you‘re talking about Dangai/Mugetsu Ichigo and Hogyoku Aizen, those topics have been discussed some times i think and obviously have not been accepted. But i think you can make a case for the Gargana and possibly dangai too.
 
why is dimensional scaling of bleach not accepted here
I think because people are in disbelief. Transcended beings are reio candidates that hold a 4 to 5D cosmology,their reiatsu can't be seen,sensed or interacted with unless the users allows it. They transcend cosmic laws like reason and have space-time resistance. That's enough evidence to me
 
He already qualifies for 2C with the new rules around space-time feats. Destorying the 3 realms would be 2-C. His profile is outdated
 
I mean I do think 2c is arguable but when Arc was active all the long term bleach supporters agreed to wait for Cour 4 to see if any additional info is revealed before making the upgrade. We have waited already till now and there's only a month to go so what's the harm. If there's more info or soul king lore revealed in Cour 4 it would make things even more solid.
 
Assuming you‘re talking about Dangai/Mugetsu Ichigo and Hogyoku Aizen, those topics have been discussed some times i think and obviously have not been accepted. But i think you can make a case for the Gargana and possibly dangai too.
only garganta and possibly dangai(subspace It separates the two worlds from one another, yet it is isolated from them.)
 
Bleach final Cour 4 won’t have a single feat above mountain level in size. AoE.

Quote me.

I will do something about it… if I am wrong.
 
Jokes aside i did want to engage with bleach vs threads but there are some downgrades and upgrades so i dont want to deal with lots of unupgraded profiles 😭
Haven't seen a match where its not stomp for Bleach characters. Everyone kinda does speed equal too so no one gets blitzed.
 
Haven't seen a match where its not stomp for Bleach characters. Everyone kinda does speed equal too so no one gets blitzed.
İf only gacha Game people stop farming our beloved getsuga tenshou spammer 😭
Speed equal is good and all but İchigous entire Arsenal is built on shunpou and GT
 


can someone scale it

Based on my previous calculations of the distance between the Royal Palace and the seireitei , the distance is 130,769,100 km

If we assume that the volume of this energy sphere is added in all directions until it reaches the soul society, this means that its diameter is this distance (130,769,100 km )

Using the sphere's volume formula We'll get this number :9.367075347 x 10^24 km^3(A diameter twice that of the Rigel)​

 
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