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(Staff Only) Regarding Non-Physical Interaction and Intangibility/Incorporeality Part 2

I agree that different physical substances have different levels of effective Intangibility. IE: Small Particles VS Liquids VS Gas.

In terms of Non-Corporeal NPI, I think it's less hierarchy and more overlapping domains. IE: Does soul overlap with the mind in the verse? What falls under a specific concept? Etc.
 
Firestorm808 said:
I agree that different physical substances have different levels of effective Intangibility. IE: Small Particles VS Liquids VS Gas.

In terms of Non-Corporeal NPI, I think it's less hierarchy and more overlapping domains. IE: Does soul overlap with the mind in the verse? What falls under a specific concept? Etc.
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Non-corporeal NPI is being handled in another thread
 
The proposed sandbox for the Intangibility update looks good to me (though the first section has far too many One Piece characters in it). For NPI, the paragraph given isn't enough if you're trying to make it more robust. Maybe something like:
The power to interact with intangible or non-corporeal beings or objects. Users can both see and interact with intangible, or non-corporeal, abstract, and nonexistent objects or life-forms and entities, allowing them to make physical contact and possibly cause harm.

The ability to interact with souls and other non-corporeal entities directly as if they were physical objects is usually considered Non-Physical Interaction and does not grant the user the ability to manipulate them in other contexts. Additionally, interacting with things that lack a set shape/form, in a way that would normally be exclusive to solid objects, would also warrant non-physical interaction, even if those things are technically speaking physical. Take for instance, fire, which albeit perceptible through touch, cannot inherently be held as if it were a singular mass. Doing so would therefore grant non-physical interaction.

An additional note is that having non-physical interaction does not mean a user can universally interact with all concepts or types of non-solid entities. For example, being able to harm someone made completely of water would not inherently give the person the ability to interact with a massless being like a creature fully composed of shadows or a creature that exists as psionic energy. By the same nature, being able to interact with a ghost would not automatically mean that an NPI user could strike someone with phasing or elemental intangibility, as those states avoid the strike altogether. Ultimately, NPI for a specific person or series needs to be looked at in terms of interaction. Some forms of NPI, such as interacting with a pure abstract creature, would involve a higher and more total form of NPI, but it would still not grant universal interaction with all non-physical beings on its own.
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Qawsedf234 said:
The proposed sandbox for the Intangibility update looks good to me (though the first section has far too many One Piece characters in it)
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Fair, I was just transferring the examples from the old page onto the new page. If you have any suggestions to fill out the examples id love to hear them
Qawsedf234 said:
For NPI, the paragraph given isn't enough if you're trying to make it more robust. Maybe something like:
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That works
 
Qawsedf's suggestion here seems good to me as well. 🙏
 
Isn't it better if we wait for Qawsedf to handle it? 🙏
 
Qawsedf234 said:
I know, which is what my confusion was about. The only thing I added was with NPI. I'll update the intangibility page as well, I guess
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Yeah i just needed the intangibility page unlocked for a few seconds so i could copy paste the contents of my sandbox into it to update it
 
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