Not a lot to work with. If these things aren't canon, which I assume is what you are implying, you are making my point for me. You have a non-canon interaction, and a philosophy of the author connected with the author's work at large. If not, they are pretty much allowed to be scaled together.
Honestly I'd be much more approving of it if the website was just outright mentioned, but it really isn't to my knowledge
True, anyways, do you agree with everything else besides the UFT stuff?
It is as Doge said. The last you should expect of Lynch is to give you all the answers immediately(or even the questions), that is his whole gimmick. There is a reason the website is briefly mentioned even if it held important information. Besides, mystery is the theme of the show itself. We open with a mystery, we end with a mystery, the Mystery is the supreme principle. The whole show is about Dale Cooper uncovering mystery itself. It makes perfect sense that not all things will be given to you in the show itself.
We don't have any reference of this by the way.
Of all these scans only the third is from a direct twin peaks source. Which by itself definitely is not related to Vedic Unified Field Theory.
--are not valid parallels. God being a "oneness" energy is not exclusive to Vedic UFT. Do I agree the Lodges are layered? Sure. Does this mean Unified Field Theory exists? No, it's a non-sequitur. You can apply literally any model to some abstract statement or set of them, stamp on the name and say "this works". The issue is that you have no direct reference to how this process is even described (nor is it namedropped as we'll see).
Because the Archetypes would be equated (by you) with God as the "laws of nature", when they are explicitly derivative. This would also reduce God to "intellect" which, I disagree with.
I know the sources, I'm the one that found Mark Frost's interview statements. Laura's "dreamer self" is the one corrupted by JUDY to experience the dream, this is implied in the undertones of FWWM, and Season 3. This should be considered spoilers for anyone who hasn't watched the show.
"If it were false it would have been edited or mentioned" They can't edit things that they don't own or have the rights to, how could they change the grant chronicles website who is presumably owned and ran by a guy named Robert C. Grant. Just because it's deliberate doesn't mean every possible correspondence is true. Furthermore, you say that the unified field theory thing isn't with reference to einstein (avoiding the clarification at the end), and yet the very website states in its principles i.e its foundational rules, that it does.
The sketch is completely separate from Twin Peaks, and thing you're referencing is wrongly applied. I have no further comment for this topic in any case. I'll go over the rest of the cosmology later.
Of what? For electricity it is obvious, for what Lynch meant, its in this video where he describes TM. Hell, he even uses Gold in other sources in reference to the Unified Field(the sketch I am talking about). If this isn't a direct application towards TP, I don't know what is.
The parallels are from Lynch's own framework applied to his own creation.
That is not how I am doing. It is the Lodges being energetic and singular, which connects to his own sketch he made. I am applying UFT because of both the mention of it and the numerous parallels as before. There is no reason to apply anything else when Lynch has his own material to apply to, which fit much better either way.
You can still be singular and be derived from something else fyi. I mean that is Taoism for you.
Why do you disagree than? Did you change your mind? I mean doesn't this just support my reading further? She is emanated by the Fireman, and gets made by JUDY to experience the dream, meaning that both entities are foundational to creation. Besides, she is corrupting the dream, not the dreamer. Also aspects again.
Yeah I am not. Evil is encompassed by JUDY. And again, aspects of the Dreamer.
I am referring to the blog itself, not the links on it, they can control what links appear on there. The link you provided says they attempt to complete the uncompleted work of Einstein, it at the very least isn't Einstein if they are intended on completing it, even going into a completely different route. If it incorporates vibrational dimensions and density shifting, it has already departed from Einstein's mathematical of it.
I said the sketch before, he directly applies gold to it, used by Twin Peaks as well.
Maybe also, we can remove the book of the dead statements from the clear light section and leave of what's canon
That too (It's marginally better because the Book of the Dead is at least cited in-verse and there's an implied reality to it, but, too vague to really net a thing and anything else would be similar extrapolation).
The point of the Dream is to reveal that there is no difference between the experience and the experiencer, Darkness and Light, and Mother/God/Dreamer (in essence anyways). We agree on this, but we disagree on the relational status that takes place between these three, Mother is the divine concealment - or principle of Darkness/Otherness that obscures light, God the Light which persists beyond Fear to reveal (Day), and The Dreamer which exists to be the world, the principle of which all things dance in and experience Life.
So when I say JUDY is apart of the Dreamer and "corrupts" I mean that discomfort/fear persists while you are dreaming, but you should find comfort that it's apart of the world intrinsically (refer to Margarets quote) and cannot exist apart from the Dreamer. Only when you are "awake" (to the truth/Mystery) do all things subside into the silence. [Including God, JUDY, Life etc of course.]
It is pretty consistent however that JUDY and the Fireman are above the Dreamer, as the Fireman emanated Laura. I think you can partially be right, as the duality only plays out in the physical world, as that is where humans live under delusion. The non-existent and Lodges serve thus as higher expressions of where that duality originates, especially since the Giant and BOB are present both in the Lodges without contradiction or conflict(same goes with MIKE). In this case, the Lodges should be the collective unconscious as highlighted via BOB being an archetype, while the Nonexistent serves as electricity flowing into the physical world(indicated by Dale being sucked into the physical world by outlet 15) and the lodges(electricity still exists, it spans all Being and Nonbeing). I mean if you think the Dreamer is equal to JUDY, wouldn't that upscale the Dreamer?
Didn't you say tier 0 was fine for the Mystery? Not a problem for me.
It's fine if the relational status of the Fireman is antecedent but the essence of the Fireman should still be considered non-different at the utmost degree. It's hard to describe the process but if Laura is The One that leads to the many, then technically she's still One.
I'm confused, are you saying the duality doesn't exist in the Lodges? Or are you saying the duality doesn't matter because it's not pervasive?
That's fine. This is probably okay, my memory of early s3 is fuzzy but that sounds like what happened. with the whole socket thing. And yeah the lodges seem closely related to the Fire, especially with the soul stuff.
Well I didn't really consider any differences in the first place in terms of essence. So I'll probably read the full Blog to get an understanding of that.
Me too, at first glance it does seem High 1-A, but I’m not too sure where the + is coming from. I’m taking a deeper look after I finish these irl things.
It is still possible to achieve emanation at this stage though, and is according to the Fireman emanating Laura. I mean if that is true, it would upscale the Dreamer to the level of the Fireman, which is High 1-A+ (type 2).
Doesn't exist. Its present more so as the place where this duality is split up into the physical world. As I said before, the distinctions don't exist here. Demonstrated by BOB and the Giant existing both in the Lodge.
Yeah, I don't see how this follows. Even narratively we're told both constructive (positive) and destructive (negative) ideas exist. Just because two entities representing said ideas, exist at the same time in the lodge doesn't mean the distinction is rendered null. I also don't understand how that'd entail a contradiction.
Uh, is this a wiki standard? Can you cite this. Otherwise, it also doesn't follow.
| Blog | My opinion |
| The Physical World is a fractal reality with the entire cosmology being based on Quantum mechanics, where the dimensions are yes physical, but is High 1-B, possibly 1-A+ because of the layers of frequencies being more real than the last. (?) | The Physical world is indeed Fractal and possibly infinite because of this, however Qualitative Superiority, would still be necessary to prove between these layers as the scan used is for an entirely different structure and situated in the context of erroneous cognition regarding the "true nature of ideas". Meaning it is a category error. Likewise, the Quantum nature of the universe should not be assumed Infinite-Dimensional by default, and would still need justification anyway. (I would rate this from 2-A, to possibly High 1-B.) |
| The Lodges are High 1-A, for seeing the physical reality as an illusion. The Entities here are archetypes which belong to a collective unconscious structure of the world at Large. Supposedly, dissolving the distinction between Good and Evil, and thus God and JUDY, into a oneness. | Whether the Lodge is High 1-A or as I think it is, 1-A, depends on the opinion of staff. I think the Lodges are both a oneness and dual, they belong the encompassing element of Fire, but house all entities. The description of such entities is that they "listen to different music" implying human concepts of good and evil don't apply, but there is still a larger order of cosmic dualism. |
| The Lodges are also a fractal reality making it infinitely layered. | The tenability of this depends how far you can stretch "fractal of life" which I don't think really matters much for a backdrop reality of archetypes, but other people should decide on this too, I'm okay with the few layers that we've been presented. |
| Non-exist-ent is High 1-A based off the fact that it transcends all categories and entities of the lodges. | This actually has a major issue I overlooked earlier. Both the Blog and the show make it clear Non-exist-ent has Electricity, which is apart of the elements all things return to. If it is governed by Electricity then it does not belong to a higher order that transcends the quality of which the Lodges are grounded in. Therefore, it would be limited in the same genera. |
| Spiritual Perfection exists beyond the lodges | This claim isn't really grounded in anything specific, other than balancing your inner darkness and light allows you to achieve a clarity that somehow lets you manipulate the red room. But I don't think Dale has gone "beyond the lodges" in any qualitative sense. |
| The Dreamer is High 1-A+ because it spans and is the source of; all Being and Nonbeing. | This will rely on the citation I asked for above. The FAQ for High 1-A+ is somewhat clear about this in so far as Logic has to be specified. Though, examples, citations and such are welcome. Otherwise it might be High 1-A. |
| JUDY, Fireman, Dido are High 1-A+ for being metaphors for the Truth beyond the Dream and emanating Laura. | I think Laura/The dreamer are apart of this "Godhead" so i don't have any major issues aside from the Tier. |
| The Mystery is tier 0. | Yeah probably I don't know. |
The whole point is that BOB and the Giant are contradictory forces always working against one-another in the physical world (The Giant helping Dale with catching Leland for example). Either way, both Milford's letter and them being singular, it should follow to the conclusion.
Why wouldn't it be? The description of High 1-A+ describes affecting all possible worlds vs embodying the framework for em. Being encompasses all that exists across all possible logical frameworks. Nonbeing encompasses all that doesn't exist across all possible logical frameworks. Thus, The One spans across all possible logical frameworks. You don't need a specific citation to see it follows High 1-A+, best you could do is show that my inference is wrong.
Fair.
This is a contradiction. Something that is an oneness can by definition not have an ontological duality, or be dual.
The key difference here is that these "human concepts" lack distinction within the Lodges, and that they aren't human perse, but more essential concepts across the universe(see Light & Dark duality segment). On that cosmic dualism, it is contradictory, either it experiences duality, or doesn't, and it doesn't, since the Lodges are singular.
It is not more so the fractal of life thing, but more so the fractal of colors which are fundamental Lynch symbolism within TP. That said though, the whole Dante's Comedy reference solidifies there are at least higher circles.
Not sure where I said this. It is High 1-A via being beyond the Lodges and being closer to God. It is devoid of all anyways, if you want to argue it is so categorically superior that it lacks everything, you do you.
Not neccesarilly, we see Naido affecting the electricity flowing in the Non-exist-ent(implying it doesn't hinge on electricity as much to still have layers), and as you agreed before, the non-exist-ent serves as the channel for electricity into the Lodges and physical reality.
He did so the moment he entered the Fireman's fortress. Also, we know from its definition that you need to pass both the White and Black Lodge to achieve perfection.
No, it should not. Because if you watched the show and read the points I made you would understand that these negative and positive forces are not related to formal contradictions at all. And again, the letter makes it very clear that it’s referring to the limited human ideas of good and bad. Them being singular is because they’re reducible to the Fire, they still carry negativity or positivity irrespective of human bad or good. That’s what makes them so dangerous in the first place.
No one said it was strictly ontological. I don’t have to establish a concrete entity called negativity or positivity to understand that something is influenced or originates from these forces. Even if you wanted to bite the bullet to say that “Fire cannot be distinguished from itself”, the intent of the fire still matters on a real scale. And if the intent of the fire is experiential I.e phenomenological then it’s still grounded in a force that conditions those aspects in the first place.
Douglas quite literally, only mentions human ideas of it and how humans are no more than protozoa. He doesn’t modify the statement, he doesn’t add onto it to cover Judy or the Fireman, that’s it. You can’t read something on the text that isn’t there. The Light and Dark segment is good, yes, it covers how the forces interact in the physical world, this does not entail Humans have an ability to give something an absolute definition. That’s the context of the letter, because the lodge entities and their goals are beyond regular human understanding, fixed distinctions such as our “noble values” of good and bad where we often exclude the two from each other don’t apply. I’ve explained this two times already.
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Except it’s not devoid of the very quality that the lodges are derived from and hence does not qualify as a meta-qualitative jump.
This doesn’t mean anything, if the layers are governed by electricity or electricity itself as you argue then by admission it hinges on it.
You need to defeat your Dweller yes, you achieve clarity yes, you even realize everything is a dream. However narratively I don’t think this puts you at a level beyond the scope of the reality. In a meta-narrative sense sure.
Fair enough, I am too lazy to continue arguing anyways.
Oh yeah wanted to add something extra to this.
It says here "arbitrarily many", Laura should be able to do this through what I mentioned before on Being/Nonbeing.
The Lodge and Dutchman's lodge clearly break them, making a futher case for High 1-A+. (The Dutchman's is neither-here-or-there, against the law of excluded middle, Laura producing all Being should produce this as well, and so be granted High 1-A+). Laura produces the condition for the Dutchman to do exactly that. Laura, as something that encompasses absolutely everything that is and is not beyond the "fire", leading to all stories(from the Log Lady Introduction), and as something where everything that is and is not flows from, should be able to affect at least one logically possible world.
