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(2-0-1) Tomura Shigaraki vs Mr. Negative

Their AP is irrelevant, as both of them are going to be fighting with their hax. In fact, at this point in the story, Tomura's never thrown a single punch.

I'd point out that Tomura has Town level durability, but Mr. Negative's hax also makes that a none issue.

This is battle is just who hits the other first with their hax. Tomura has the edge in that point since his Decay can spread across the ground, meaning he doesn't need to get close to Mr. Negative. While Negative's ranged attacks cannot harm him, only his touch has corruption abilities.

City Size Decay is not a problem as Tomura doesn't lead with that due to the damage it inflicts onto himself. He won't realize Negative is a serious enough threat to use it until he gets touch, which at that point would be too late. Normal decay spread can be avoided by jumping away.

If Negative does get close, I cannot say who'd touch the other first, which would be an inconclusive unless someone reveals more about Negative.

However, I'm just barely giving the edge to Tomura due to his spreading Decay, so voting Tomura for now.
 
Vote counted.

Though I would like to point out that Li can repeatedly catch both Spider-Men off guard, despite them having Enhanced Senses and Precognition. At this distance Negative could get the drop on Shigaraki first, but I guess its 50/50 really.
 
TheRadiantSoul said:
Though I would like to point out that Li can repeatedly catch both Spider-Men off guard, despite them having Enhanced Senses and Precognition. At this distance Negative could get the drop on Shigaraki first, but I guess its 50/50 really.
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At that point, how is Tomura suppose to hit Negative whatsoever if he's Spider-Man level in terms of mobility/movement?

That feels like he wins overall. I don't really know how good Negative is, I'm just going off the profile.
 
XSOULOFCINDERX said:
I'm gonna vote Incon personally since Mr Negative is easily the more skilled of the two of them in terms of actual combat.
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Why incon and not just a win for Negative.

Thinking I should be voting for him instead. Tomura can't keep up with anyone on Spider-Man's level in terms of mobility/skill.
 
TheRadiantSoul said:
I wasn't saying he was on the Spider-Men's level of mobility and movement. I was just saying he could tag and react to them.
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Just hitting someone with Spider-Man's level of combat, who also has precognition, makes him far better than anything Tomura has ever dealt with.

Edit: Wait, they're fighting in a enclosed space?
 
Jackof_noTrades068 said:
Since this is MVA shigaraki and they’re in an enclosed space I must ask.
What stops Shiggy from touching the ground and just decaying everything around him to avoid having a Skill duel with negative to begin with?
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This is what I was going to get to. Ruined my moment.

Shigaraki's decay will just cover the entire battle arena, meaning Negative can't go anywhere.
 
TheRadiantSoul said:
Enclosed enough to the point where Spider-Man (who usually jumps around and swings around) Is forced to use CQC.
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That's very small in this case. Tomura can easily decay everything there, the floor, walls, and ceiling would be death zones for Mister Negative so he can't dodge it.

And SBA has them both starting as far as they possible can from each other. So they'd both be on the two ends of the room.

It's far quicker for Tomura to touch the ground than it'll be for Negative to reach him.

So yeah, I'm keeping my vote for Tomura.
 
Shigaraki doesn't stomp. I know for a fact that he doesn't immediately start with a Decay Wave In character, So Li still has the chance to dash Towards him.

Li can also summon his Susanoo to knock Shigaraki off his feet before he can touch the ground.
 
Tomura always starts with decay wave after he got it.

The second he realized he could do that, he spammed it. Only the city size decay would be held back due to the backlash.

Nothing Negative does is faster than Tomura touching the ground. I don't even get what you're saying, what you link doesn't really help or do what you said.
 
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TheRustyOne said:
Tomura always starts with decay after getting it.
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Didn't he spend a good amount of minutes monologuing to Re-Destro and letting him constantly attack, when he first awakened? Barely taking him seriously? He only bothered to decay the ground once, he knew he could casually decay away all of his attacks.

TheRustyOne said:
I don't even get what you're saying, what you link doesn't really help or do what you said.
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Pay attention to the video. I am referring to the large Demon Creature that Mr. Negative can summon. I am considering the possibility that it could knock down Shigaraki while he is trying to corrode everything. This could provide an opportunity to interrupt Shigaraki's decay ability. Li would also be levitating the Air, so he'd be Temporarily out of the Decay's range.
 
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TheRadiantSoul said:
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Never. The first thing he did was a decay wave and Re-Destro jumped over it and destroyed his hand. You're thinking about the Double Twice made, which didn't let him monologue because it couldn't use decay wave. It ran up and tried to touch him and failed. Twice was unaware of that until after the real Tomura showed up.

I suggest not talking about stuff you're unaware of. Edit: That's why I cannot comment about Negative beyond what I see on his profile, I lack understand of him.

Negative can't fly, that's not on his profile so it's irrelevant. Nothing you showed there has anything that'd stop Tomura from touching the ground.

If you want to give him flight you should make a CRT.
 
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TheRustyOne said:
Never. The first thing he did was a decay wave and Re-Destro jumped over it and destroyed his hand. You're thinking about the Double Twice made, which didn't let him monologue because it couldn't use decay wave. It ran up and tried to touch him and failed. Twice was unaware of that until after the real Tomura showed up.
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No, I am referring to this scene where we can clearly see Tomura is doing nothing while Destro is wailing on him:




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The context may not really matter, since this version of Shigaraki has a range of hundreds of meters anyway, so he could essentially just decay the building they are in right off the bat if he is feeling really dickish. I really am considering changing the distance so that they are closer together.

However, I will wait for more people's opinions to see if they think this is a definitive stomp with the current setup.
 
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