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Yes it's sensible for a higher-dimensional entities to affect lower-dimensional constructs. (Ex. When you edit pages on wikias you're manipulating a 2-D construct.) And no there wouldn't be any difficulty because higher-dimensional entities are typically comsic beings.
Yes some villainous...
I'm taking the term "nothing" to literal because I'm going by it's definition? Fine, I'll stop. This argument is pointless anyways given Madoka can't erase things outside of witches.
This is my original argument. I stated that conceptual erasure doesn't bypass mid-godly Regenerationn because they're capable of regenerating from nothing. Whether Nicol was capable or not didn't affect me. But I'll wait for someone with more M:TG knowledge to confirm if Nicol really has...
Doesn't deteriorate my argument in any way. And Madoka can't erase things on a conceptual level. But as I stated above, it wouldn't be a factor regardless.
There're no types, variations or version of mid-godly Regenerationn. Once again, it explicitly states that characters are capable of regenerating from nothing. I guess I have to post the quote again.
Able to regenerate from nothing
~ Mid-godly Regenerationn
You didn't...
Anyways, why concept manipulation is such a pretentious ability is what's actually over my head. Conceptual erasure doesn't bypass mid-godly Regenerationn. Erasing the concept of someone doesn't transcend nothingness.
Able to regenerate from nothing
~ Mid-godly Regenerationn
Not anything: No thing
~ The definition of nothing(Noun version)
And Madoka can only manipulate the concept of witches and "destroying witches". So she can't erase the concept of Regenerationn.
Why? Conceptual erasure signifies erasing your opponent on a conceptual level. Destroying the idea/notion of that individual. But the sole purpose of mid-godly regen is to regenerate from absolutely nothing.
An abstract or generic idea generalized from particular instances.
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Well it has been over 4 days and unfortunately we haven't unanimously agreed upon any suggestions.
I'm personally still against all forms of existence erasure being considered a mechanism/sub-power of void manipulation. But every method of erasure could be explained through it's appropriate...
Well I thought that making an existence erasure page would be a more convenient route. But if that's unnecessary, then I suppose just linking character's method of erasure to the appropriate abilities would suffice.
I think you're taking the "into nothingness" part of existence erasure's definition to serious. "Erasing something into nothingness" is less complicated than stating "destroying your opponent completely without leaving any physical or even metaphysical traces". But I will admit that the latter...
You're excluding the fact the most plot manipulators control the story's entire setting. Therefore erasing their victim from the story will simultaneously erase their existence.
Causality Manipulation? Well, as with going back in time and stopping mommy and daddy from getting together thus...
As I mentioned above, existence erasure ca be a sub-power of void manipulation. But that shouldn't change the fact that existence erasure itself is the ability to destroy/erase one's existence.
For example: If a character has Plot Manipulation, they can possibly remove someone from the story...