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  1. Conflicting_Messiah

    Higher Dimensional beings being beaten by lower dimensional beings.

    Higher-Dimensional Manipulation does exist. So it isn't completely impractical for lower-dimensional entities to affect higher ones.
  2. Conflicting_Messiah

    Relating to Higher Dimensional Entities & Entities that Transcend Dimensions

    Yes it's sensible for a higher-dimensional entities to affect lower-dimensional constructs. (Ex. When you edit pages on wikias you're manipulating a 2-D construct.) And no there wouldn't be any difficulty because higher-dimensional entities are typically comsic beings. Yes some villainous...
  3. Conflicting_Messiah

    Nicol Bolas Vs Madoka Kaname

    I'm taking the term "nothing" to literal because I'm going by it's definition? Fine, I'll stop. This argument is pointless anyways given Madoka can't erase things outside of witches.
  4. Conflicting_Messiah

    Nicol Bolas Vs Madoka Kaname

    This is my original argument. I stated that conceptual erasure doesn't bypass mid-godly Regenerationn because they're capable of regenerating from nothing. Whether Nicol was capable or not didn't affect me. But I'll wait for someone with more M:TG knowledge to confirm if Nicol really has...
  5. Conflicting_Messiah

    Nicol Bolas Vs Madoka Kaname

    Doesn't deteriorate my argument in any way. And Madoka can't erase things on a conceptual level. But as I stated above, it wouldn't be a factor regardless.
  6. Conflicting_Messiah

    Nicol Bolas Vs Madoka Kaname

    There're no types, variations or version of mid-godly Regenerationn. Once again, it explicitly states that characters are capable of regenerating from nothing. I guess I have to post the quote again. Able to regenerate from nothing ~ Mid-godly Regenerationn
  7. Conflicting_Messiah

    Nicol Bolas Vs Madoka Kaname

    You didn't... Anyways, why concept manipulation is such a pretentious ability is what's actually over my head. Conceptual erasure doesn't bypass mid-godly Regenerationn. Erasing the concept of someone doesn't transcend nothingness.
  8. Conflicting_Messiah

    Nicol Bolas Vs Madoka Kaname

    Nothing regarding mid-godly regen mentions mind, body and soul destruction. It explicitly states that characters are able to regenerate from nothing.
  9. Conflicting_Messiah

    Nicol Bolas Vs Madoka Kaname

    Able to regenerate from nothing ~ Mid-godly Regenerationn Not anything: No thing ~ The definition of nothing(Noun version) And Madoka can only manipulate the concept of witches and "destroying witches". So she can't erase the concept of Regenerationn.
  10. Conflicting_Messiah

    Nicol Bolas Vs Madoka Kaname

    Why? Conceptual erasure signifies erasing your opponent on a conceptual level. Destroying the idea/notion of that individual. But the sole purpose of mid-godly regen is to regenerate from absolutely nothing. An abstract or generic idea generalized from particular instances. ~...
  11. Conflicting_Messiah

    Existence Erasure

    Well it has been over 4 days and unfortunately we haven't unanimously agreed upon any suggestions. I'm personally still against all forms of existence erasure being considered a mechanism/sub-power of void manipulation. But every method of erasure could be explained through it's appropriate...
  12. Conflicting_Messiah

    Existence Erasure

    Well I thought that making an existence erasure page would be a more convenient route. But if that's unnecessary, then I suppose just linking character's method of erasure to the appropriate abilities would suffice.
  13. Conflicting_Messiah

    Existence Erasure

    I think you're taking the "into nothingness" part of existence erasure's definition to serious. "Erasing something into nothingness" is less complicated than stating "destroying your opponent completely without leaving any physical or even metaphysical traces". But I will admit that the latter...
  14. Conflicting_Messiah

    Existence Erasure

    You're excluding the fact the most plot manipulators control the story's entire setting. Therefore erasing their victim from the story will simultaneously erase their existence. Causality Manipulation? Well, as with going back in time and stopping mommy and daddy from getting together thus...
  15. Conflicting_Messiah

    Existence Erasure

    As I mentioned above, existence erasure ca be a sub-power of void manipulation. But that shouldn't change the fact that existence erasure itself is the ability to destroy/erase one's existence. For example: If a character has Plot Manipulation, they can possibly remove someone from the story...
  16. Conflicting_Messiah

    Existence Erasure

    I disagree with existence erasure being a sub-power for void manipulation only. It would invalidate the entire purpose of this thread. As I created this to erase the notion that existence erasure is strictly a lesser version of void manipulation. Because abilities like causality, concept and...
  17. Conflicting_Messiah

    Existence Erasure

    Even I can somewhat agree that the current page for destruction is lacking in information and explanations. But we shouldn't deteriorate this thread for such trivial matters. Regardless, if the destruction page gets deleted. I'll suggest that Existence Erasure gets its own independent page like...
  18. Conflicting_Messiah

    Existence Erasure

    This section of your post is subjective. And the revisions to the page should take precedence over your opinion. Reality Warping is a subpower of Destruction, for example. Actually it's reverse given it's impossible for setient beings to be able to annihilate objects in real life. Also was...
  19. Conflicting_Messiah

    Existence Erasure

    That's my point... Both Destruction and Existence erasure have many variations so existence erasure shouldn't strictly be considered a sub-power of void manipulation.
  20. Conflicting_Messiah

    Existence Erasure

    Erasing things from existence is power over nothingness. The power to unmake and destroy anything to total and utter nothingness. Opposing force of Creation. ~ Destruction Also as I stated above, void manipulation can potentially be an application of destruction.
  21. Conflicting_Messiah

    Existence Erasure

    The Problem There seems to be a misconception about Destruction and Void manipulation. These misunderstandings has cause people to believe that erasing something from existence is Void manipulation. But this is incorrect because Void manipulation is strictly the power over voids, nothingness...
  22. Conflicting_Messiah

    Nonexistence Erasure

    We have tons of things on this wiki that "don't make sense", I don't see how erasing nonexistence is any different. Got any examples? Because everything I personally seen on this wiki can be explained by metaphysics, theoretical physics, basic physics and philosophy. On-Topic: Existence and...
  23. Conflicting_Messiah

    Lord English vs SCP-001 (S Andrew Swann's Proposal)

    Since both characters are omnipresent, Lord English has the higher possibility of victory. SCP-001 can't permanently destroy English without manipulating time due to his "indestructible" time paradoxical nature. While English's double death ability is a peripheral component to his reality...
  24. Conflicting_Messiah

    Is it true that Acausality can bypass Destruction and Void Manipulation?

    Acausality doesn't "bypass" void manipulation because it's the power over voids, nothingness, and nonexistence. While destruction is the power to destroy or unmake anything to nothing. But there's many methods of destruction which includes: Causality manipulation Existence erasure Concept...
  25. Conflicting_Messiah

    Galactus (Marvel) VS God Emperor (40K)

    Galactus due to his superior statistics and more combat oriented abilities. Galactus also has more experience than a living emperor.
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