Minor HGR Mega Man X addition

[Crimson_cordx]

All Reploids already have LGR (Soul)

But their souls are simply the data extracted from their bodies
This is supported by Geemel, whose data (thus his soul) was destroyed, resulting in his permanent death, as well as ordinary Reploids whose data if is rewrite by Nightmare Insects, they are permanently erased

Therefore X, Vile, and Sigma should receive HGR (Information), having regenerated even after their data had been destroyed

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Self-Evident.
High-Godly.

Bruh....

 

[Crimson_cordx]

Bruh....

Yeah? LGR and data are already accepted as Info 2, so HGR is pretty obvious. No need for a whole solo CRT over smth that's barely 4 paragraphs

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Yeah? LGR and data are already accepted as Info 2, so HGR is pretty obvious. No need for a whole solo CRT over smth that's barely 4 paragraphs

High-Godly is such a massive upgrade over Low-Godly that it isn't even funny. That does require more elaboration for people who aren't familiar with the verse. Also super high tier stuff like this is probably not best done in Self-Evident threads.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Also how come the last revision hasn't been applied yet? I thought it was against the rules to make a CRT and not apply the accepted stuff before rushing into a new CRT?

 

[Crimson_cordx]

Also how come the last revision hasn't been applied yet? I thought it was against the rules to make a CRT and not apply the accepted stuff before rushing into a new CRT?

It was...? Didn't add it to Mega Man X since his profile's outdated as heck. I'm making a new sandbox for him anyway (same for Vile).

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

It was...? Didn't add it to Mega Man X since his profile's outdated as heck. I'm making a new sandbox for him anyway (same for Vile).

Not every Reploid has the powers listed though. I know this because I'm looking at Gravity Beetle's page right now and its still the same as it was before.

 

[Crimson_cordx]

Not every Reploid has the powers listed though. I know this because I'm looking at Gravity Beetle's page right now and its still the same as it was before.

Only gave the abilities to the main chars (even tho Sigma still doesn't have them) + a few randoms. Giving the rest of the abilities to the less relevant chars is smth I plan to do, but it's not a priority rn, I'm not really a fan of the Chill Penguin agenda anyway

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Only gave the abilities to the main chars (even tho Sigma still doesn't have them) + a few randoms. Giving the rest of the abilities to the less relevant chars is smth I plan to do, but it's not a priority rn, I'm not really a fan of the Chill Penguin agenda anyway

I don't care about the Chill Penguin agenda either, I'm all about the G.O.A.T. Gravity Beetle!

 

[Smashtwig]

 

[TheHedgememe]

Oh. You went and did it, huh.

Position isn't bad, but uh... Mixed feelings on the argumentation. You're missing a lot of context here. I'll probably type out more of my thoughts later.

Only gave the abilities to the main chars (even tho Sigma still doesn't have them) + a few randoms. Giving the rest of the abilities to the less relevant chars is smth I plan to do, but it's not a priority rn, I'm not really a fan of the Chill Penguin agenda anyway

I will say that all reploids are based on X so they should theoretically have the same innate abilities due to having the same physiology (DNA Data/Souls). Even Zero is basically indistinguishable from other reploids in this regard because we know Gate uses his DNA in X6 to make the Nightmare Virus.

Edit: Also like Cinder said, this isn't self-evident and requires so much more elaboration lol

 

[Crimson_cordx]

I don't get it. They already regen through their soul, data is already accepted as Info 2, so HGR is kinda a no-brainer. It's not like Info 2 or EE where u actually gotta make a case for it

 

[Crimson_cordx]

Oh. You went and did it, huh.

Just wanna buff the verse for a few Sonic matchups before it gets thrown into Tier 9

Edit: Also like Cinder said, this isn't self-evident and requires so much more elaboration lol

Self-evident is for obvious abilities. If X's or Sigma's examples aren't explicit enough, idk what is

 

[TheHedgememe]

Self-evident is for obvious abilities. If X's or Sigma's examples aren't explicit enough, idk what is

Sigma is a virus. While I don't disagree with his Xtreme regen feat of his data form being a point towards reploids having high-godly, he's also literally a virus. People WILL latch onto that distinction.

For X you have to prove that him coming back after his data form isn't just gameplay mechanics based on a lives system.

Vile... Isn't even the actual Vile and is the past data version of him. You can easily assert that him coming back for Xtreme 1's hard mode is because of Sigma hacking the Mother Computer again.

But the bottom line is this: The problem isn't so much the position itself, instead it's the sheer lack of explanation behind it that'll make us look like we're being dishonest.

Just wanna buff the verse for a few Sonic matchups before it gets thrown into Tier 9

The fact you are looking to buff the verse for Sonic matchups before a presumed downgrade does not help your case.

 

[Crimson_cordx]

Sigma is a virus. While I don't disagree with his Xtreme regen feat of his data form being a point towards reploids having high-godly, he's also literally a virus. People WILL latch onto that distinction.

I'm pretty sure that virus is still data in some form, but wtv

For X you have to prove that him coming back after his data form isn't just gameplay mechanics based on a lives system.

Deaths in Mega Man aren't just game mechanics. If X dies to Storm Eagle and comes back, the ship is still destroyed. Plus, there are chips and Cyber-Elves that revive u after death. So if X gets his data (and thus his soul) destroyed in a boss fight and still comes back, that's HGR, or at least Resurrection

Vile... Isn't even the actual Vile and is the past data version of him. You can easily assert that him coming back for Xtreme 1's hard mode is because of Sigma hacking the Mother Computer again.

I'm not talking about his data coming back at the end of the game. I'm talking about him showing up in the X3 intro even tho his data got erased in Xtreme

 

[Migue79]

Your CRT has no good elaboration as to why Vile and X should have this level of regeneration, never mind how literally none of them realistically have even Low Godly regeneration - that part of the CRT should've never been passed and apparently it's my fault that it went through... Another CRT to make before my Astro Man CRT all because I have my life to live... Great.

Anyways, as stated before by others, you will definitely need far more than what you typed for this kind of upgrade as stated before and this needs to be moved to the original CRT, especially since the idea of anyone but the Sigma Virus having that kind of regeneration is really stupid in all honesty. Even for the Sigma Virus is stretching it.

 

[TheHedgememe]

I'm pretty sure that virus is still data in some form, but wtv

It is, and I know that. Doppler in JP X3 calls it a program virus of evil. I'm arguing from the perspective of people that aren't as knowledgeable about the verse and potential Devil's Advocates.

Deaths in Mega Man aren't just game mechanics. If X dies to Storm Eagle and comes back, the ship is still destroyed. Plus, there are chips and Cyber-Elves that revive u after death. So if X gets his data (and thus his soul) destroyed in a boss fight and still comes back, that's HGR, or at least Resurrection

This is fair enough.

I'm not talking about his data coming back at the end of the game. I'm talking about him showing up in the X3 intro even tho his data got erased in Xtreme

That's a ******* opening infamous for having inaccuracies like X1 Zero with the Z-Saber.

The boss intros in PS1 X3 are fine, but the opening?

 

[Crimson_cordx]

Your CRT has no good elaboration as to why Vile and X should have this level of regeneration, never mind how literally none of them realistically have even Low Godly regeneration - that part of the CRT should've never been passed and apparently it's my fault that it went through... Another CRT to make before my Astro Man CRT all because I have my life to live... Great.

Anyways, as stated before by others, you will definitely need far more than what you typed for this kind of upgrade as stated before and this needs to be moved to the original CRT, especially since the idea of anyone but the Sigma Virus having that kind of regeneration is really stupid in all honesty. Even for the Sigma Virus is stretching it.

Is this shit really that bad that it resurrected migue? Nah, I'm just gonna ask a staff member to close this and leave in shame
(But what's the issue with the LGR? Two staff members agreed)

 

[TheHedgememe]

Your CRT has no good elaboration as to why Vile and X should have this level of regeneration, never mind how literally none of them realistically have even Low Godly regeneration - that part of the CRT should've never been passed and apparently it's my fault that it went through...

I feel your pain in that I feel responsible for this CRT as well.

Anyways, as stated before by others, you will definitely need far more than what you typed for this kind of upgrade as stated before and this needs to be moved to the original CRT, especially since the idea of anyone but the Sigma Virus having that kind of regeneration is really stupid in all honesty. Even for the Sigma Virus is stretching it.

I don't think High-Godly is egregious for Sigma but I agree wholesale.