Honkai: Star Rail Discussion Thread

[Nighting4l33yes]

Define living

Girl... Yk what i mean!!! Its a wasteland

 

[Nighting4l33yes]

He gets unbanned in less than a week. He’s telling me he would never let this funny stuff pass. And like, ya’ll can try bro. Ya’ll can definitely try

I dont see how any of this is funny stuff? If there's confirmation that those verses share some cosmological properties. Said properties should be applied to paths. We alr have enough evidence without the event for it.

 

[Mbpoops]

Girl... Yk what i mean!!! Its a wasteland

Bubble worlds are living worlds

The reason Su implies they arent living is because they have an experation date due to the nature of the soq/sea of data so they can only stabilize themselves through anchors

The worlds are living the analogy su made was just metaphorical

 

[Tarcaver]

I've seen enough, it's time to put the entirety of the honkaiverse as part of the root's equipment in the profile page.

 

[SuperNova55555]

I dont see how any of this is funny stuff? If there's confirmation that those verses share some cosmological properties. Said properties should be applied to paths. We alr have enough evidence without the event for it.

Right. What they share. But there’s a difference between the concept of a thing harmonized into a contradictory worldview, and the actual thing imported into the worldview. Which is also why Rin is simply analogizing it in Honkai terms

 

[Voidnether]

Right. What they share. But there’s a difference between the concept of a thing harmonized into a contradictory worldview, and the actual thing imported into the worldview. Which is also why Rin is simply analogizing it in Honkai terms

This is called semantics but aight

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Right. What they share. But there’s a difference between the concept of a thing harmonized into a contradictory worldview, and the actual thing imported into the worldview. Which is also why Rin is simply analogizing it in Honkai terms

What about my question

 

[Mbpoops]

This is called semantics but aight

No he has a good point

In essence they are the same as they both are extensions and replications of concepts its just

 

[Scrubforhire]

Did they genuinely lock in for the collab all of a sudden

The story presentation is the best they've put out so far?? I know the bar is not high at all but it's hilarious how they actually use way more dynamic dialogue animations and effects in a collab story

The collab story was actually fun I liked it very much

 

[Mbpoops]

No he has a good point

In essence they are the same as they both are extensions and replications of concepts its just

Doesnt mean they are the same thing they just function similarly

 

[Scrubforhire]

My main question is why did Gil say "men do not interest me"? In JP he doesn't say that but for some reason the EN text did. Brother you a part of the oldest homosexual relationship in the world??? Who tf translated this bs brah

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

My main question is why did Gil say "men do not interest me"? In JP he doesn't say that but for some reason the EN text did. Brother you a part of the oldest homosexual relationship in the world??? Who tf translated this bs brah

And this is why we use JP raws because CN raws had that too

 

[Nighting4l33yes]

Right. What they share. But there’s a difference between the concept of a thing harmonized into a contradictory worldview, and the actual thing imported into the worldview. Which is also why Rin is simply analogizing it in Honkai terms

If her power and whatever system she was using in her own world is currently being supplemented by another system and she says they feel and are the same, then it's pretty clear it's not an analogy but a simile

 

[Nighting4l33yes]

theres just no ******* way he says this i cant ******* breathe

 

[Mbpoops]

Yea im fine with doing nothing with the root stuff talked to toxic offsite

 

[Voidnether]

Yea im fine with doing nothing with the root stuff talked to toxic offsite

What he said lowk makes zero sense btw
1. Root being High 1-C in Honkaiverse
2. Claiming Mystery doesn't exist within the Honkaiverse, when the Holy Grail powered by Imaginary Energy back in 3.4 is able to create Mystery

 

[Mbpoops]

What he said lowk makes zero sense btw
1. Root being High 1-C in Honkaiverse
2. Claiming Mystery doesn't exist within the Honkaiverse, when the Holy Grail powered by Imaginary Energy back in 3.4 is able to create Mystery

Thats not even the main point of what he said its just inconsistant with nasuverse

 

[Voidnether]

Thats not even the main point of what he said its just inconsistant with nasuverse

Aight so what are you gonna do then, because you still can't discard the fact that well, Root is Tier 0 and that Honkaiverse exists within said Root + the fact Fate is canon to Star Rail explicitly amongst other things we had that's currently listed on our verse page

Like Servant characters are still getting Servant Physiology, Magecraft users like Trailblazer who are able to use Magic Circuits has it and many more things like Noble Phantasm, etc

I don't really care about anything else, but imo Root is still Tier 0 instead of it being capped to like Honkaiverse's own cosmology and the fact that Honkai characters, retain their abilities? Gilgamesh having every weapon in HSR, and so on, you can't just discard all this on the notion that it's inconsistent

 

[Voidnether]

Aight so what are you gonna do then, because you still can't discard the fact that well, Root is Tier 0 and that Honkaiverse exists within said Root + the fact Fate is canon to Star Rail explicitly amongst other things we had that's currently listed on our verse page

Like Servant characters are still getting Servant Physiology, Magecraft users like Trailblazer who are able to use Magic Circuits has it and many more things like Noble Phantasm, etc

I don't really care about anything else, but imo Root is still Tier 0 instead of it being capped to like Honkaiverse's own cosmology and the fact that Honkai characters, retain their abilities? Gilgamesh having every weapon in HSR, and so on, you can't just discard all this on the notion that it's inconsistent

Like I hope you know that we have to think long term eventually because this is not the last collab, we'll get another next year and it's leaked that Sakura is going to be the 3rd collab

They are going to do this collab yearly, and if we keep gatekeeping, it's legit only a matter of time

 

[Mbpoops]

Aight so what are you gonna do then, because you still can't discard the fact that well, Root is Tier 0 and that Honkaiverse exists within said Root + the fact Fate is canon to Star Rail explicitly amongst other things we had that's currently listed on our verse page

Like Servant characters are still getting Servant Physiology, Magecraft users like Trailblazer who are able to use Magic Circuits has it and many more things like Noble Phantasm, etc

I don't really care about anything else, but imo Root is still Tier 0 instead of it being capped to like Honkaiverse's own cosmology and the fact that Honkai characters, retain their abilities? Gilgamesh having every weapon in HSR, and so on, you can't just discard all this on the notion that it's inconsistent

Look at discord

 

[Nighting4l33yes]

Shouldn't like... these conversations be held here...? Where everyone can participate and share their opinions? Tf ?

 

[SuperNova55555]

If her power and whatever system she was using in her own world is currently being supplemented by another system and she says they feel and are the same, then it's pretty clear it's not an analogy but a simile

To put it in terms of your worldview, it's equivalent to the starting point of all Paths,

It’s an analogy.

 

[Voidnether]

Shouldn't like... these conversations be held here...? Where everyone can participate and share their opinions? Tf ?

It's cause someone was on some bullshit that like 1-2 inconsistencies is going to somehow nuke the whole shit together and how they're going to gatekeep it (and they don't even consider the 10-20 consistencies along the way) also like the mf was incorrect anyway when Mystery was degraded from Fate Stay Night and that HSR just confirms this further instead of Mystery not existing in-verse at all like if anything Nasu wrote this bro

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

“Mystery didn’t exist prior to the penacony holy grail war”
This was never stated btw. It was only stated that mystery was degraded in the universe. This is because Honkai is technologically advanced to hell and back.

 

[Nighting4l33yes]

It's cause someone was on some bullshit that like 1-2 inconsistencies is going to somehow nuke the whole shit together and how they're going to gatekeep it (and they don't even consider the 10-20 consistencies along the way) also like the mf was incorrect anyway when Mystery was degraded from Fate Stay Night and that HSR just confirms this further instead of Mystery not existing in-verse at all like if anything Nasu wrote this br

Not saying this to you in particular but it's a bit crazy that things crucial to the verse are being discussed that extensively offsite when they'd normally be handled in a CRT giving everyone a chance to review and participate. Not a fan of this gatekeeping. It's very weird and makes me raise an eyebrow on how things are being processed.

Whoever this person is, if they are banned from the wiki, it's probably for a good reason. Once their ban expires they can defend their position

 

[AthelChan]

It's cause someone was on some bullshit that like 1-2 inconsistencies is going to somehow nuke the whole shit together and how they're going to gatekeep it (and they don't even consider the 10-20 consistencies along the way) also like the mf was incorrect anyway when Mystery was degraded from Fate Stay Night and that HSR just confirms this further instead of Mystery not existing in-verse at all like if anything Nasu wrote this bro

i think what they meant is that the argument itself shouldnt be on a discord group chat but in here for everyone to see.

 

[RoninSlayer200]

Did y'all choose Archer or Gil

 

[Mbpoops]

i think what they meant is that the argument itself shouldnt be on a discord group chat but in here for everyone to see.

No i just have work and dont feel like retyping what i said

 

[Nighting4l33yes]

Did y'all choose Archer or Gil

Gil for the 3 warps on max levels

No i just have work and dont feel like retyping what i said

This isn't a one-time thing though. What yall doing alienates people without access to that groupchat, hurts discussions and pretty much control the verse offsite.

 

[Tarcaver]

tbh if people wanna gatekeep discussion then just make a CRT and everyone who has arguments will be forced to drop what they have in it

 

[Nighting4l33yes]

tbh if people wanna gatekeep discussion then just make a CRT and everyone who has arguments will be forced to drop what they have in it

Ohh you must be new to Honkai discussions When this happens, people in those groups do things like creating large agree/disagree chains without any reasoning (even inviting people completely uninitiated to the verse) or stuff like throw random arguments with no strength or coherency and just spam. Agreement/Disagreement etc itself is not inherently problematic. However, when several users arrive in succession posting brief endorsements while substantive counterarguments remain unanswered, it creates the appearance of overwhelming consensus without engagement with the opposing evidence. In short, evidence is buried through dogpiling and Staff ignores it because the verse has a bad reputation in CRTs.

There have been instances where Staff members’ evaluations seemed to rely on the “community’s response”. This effect becomes very pronounced in lengthy threads which is what all Honkai threads end up becoming.

 

[Mbpoops]

I was legit just too busy to retype what i said

 

[Nighting4l33yes]

It's not that. There's been other times.

But anyway about this particularly, from what I've gathered there's a whole debate going on with a random guy whose approval we need to get...? On a verse he has no correlation with...? And those of us not in this chat can't even see what is being talked about...?

 

[SuperNova55555]

It's not that. There's been other times.

But anyway about this particularly, from what I've gathered there's a whole debate going on with a random guy whose approval we need to get...? On a verse he has no correlation with...? And those of us not in this chat can't even see what is being talked about...?

Toxic-sama is GOD.

 

[Mbpoops]

It's not that. There's been other times.

Idc about other times

But anyway about this particularly, from what I've gathered there's a whole debate going on with a random guy whose approval we need to get...? On a verse he has no correlation with...? And those of us not in this chat can't even see what is being talked about...?

“Random guy” yea wrap it up yall dont deserve 1-A dont disrespect toxic sama

 

[Mbpoops]

But if you wanna open a crt on the root shit be my guest but you will get fried

And since you really wanna see what i was saying

“
Mystery is a measure of how close things relate to the root, honkai/imaginary isnt like this at all its just a chaotic energy so equating the two is contradictory

Paths juxtapose magecraft as they are both trying to reach some arbitrary point:

Magecraft = origin

Paths = end

Not that paths and magecraft are the same they just have a similar function or purpose

Its not about mystery not existing but mystery not pre existing is contradictory to the root itself”

 

[Voidnether]

But if you wanna open a crt on the root shit be my guest but you will get fried

And since you really wanna see what i was saying

“
Mystery is a measure of how close things relate to the root, honkai/imaginary isnt like this at all its just a chaotic energy so equating the two is contradictory

Paths juxtapose magecraft as they are both trying to reach some arbitrary point:

Magecraft = origin

Paths = end

Not that paths and magecraft are the same they just have a similar function or purpose

Its not about mystery not existing but mystery not pre existing is contradictory to the root itself”

“Mystery didn’t exist prior to the penacony holy grail war”
This was never stated btw. It was only stated that mystery was degraded in the universe. This is because Honkai is technologically advanced to hell and back.

 

[Mbpoops]

The raws say it dowsnt exist. Completely degraded is the same thing as saying theres zEro value of mystery in hoyo

 

[ShinMaximillion]

It's not that. There's been other times.

But anyway about this particularly, from what I've gathered there's a whole debate going on with a random guy whose approval we need to get...? On a verse he has no correlation with...? And those of us not in this chat can't even see what is being talked about...?

Random guy? He's literally the teacher of May_Alter, Nova and I. We're his philosophy students.

 

[Mbpoops]

Hes the guy saving the verse rn btw