Dragon Ball Super 1-C Arguments

[Ezaru]

I see arguments like this

https://www.reddit.com/r/PowerScaling/s/PDPOm3VGsY

All the time, trying to argue that Goku is like multiple levels into complex multi

Could anyone point me to threads where these arguments have been discussed?

I have my own arguments against each of these points, but I am still curious

Edit:
sorry didnt mean to post this multiple times was having issues when posting

Dragon Ball Super Low 1-C arguments

I see arguments like this https://www.reddit.com/r/PowerScaling/s/PDPOm3VGsY All the time, trying to argue that Goku is like multiple levels into complex multi Could anyone point me to threads where these arguments have been discussed? I have my own arguments against each of these points...

vsbattles.com

Can one be deleted

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Goku isn't 1-C on this site, though.

Powerscalers aren't a collective; they have different communities that believe different things. You can't debate something someone said on Reddit here, because the people here aren't the same as the people on Reddit (for the most part).

 

[Ezaru]

Goku isn't 1-C on this site, though.

Powerscalers aren't a collective; they have different communities that believe different things. You can't debate something someone said on Reddit here, because the people here aren't the same as the people on Reddit (for the most part).

I am aware, I know

I am basically asking why he isnt 1-C+ on here

I have to assume that like, most of these arguments have been brought up here before, so I am asking if anyone has links to CRTs or threads where these arguments were brought up and rejected

 

[Xdsagecat]

I personally gave up on seeing l1c Goku on vsbw long ago

 

[God_of_perversion]

I am aware, I know

I am basically asking why he isnt 1-C+ on here

I have to assume that like, most of these arguments have been brought up here before, so I am asking if anyone has links to CRTs or threads where these arguments were brought

No character on the Dragon Ball manga and anime reach 1-C because their cosmology doesn't reach it
Goku (manga and anime) doesn't reach L1C because he can't significantly affect the L1C structures of the Dragon Ball cosmology. The closest he ever reached was destroying a super dimension of unspecified size

 

[Ezaru]

No character on the Dragon Ball manga and anime reach 1-C because their cosmology doesn't reach it
Goku (manga and anime) doesn't reach L1C because he can't significantly affect the L1C structures of the Dragon Ball cosmology. The closest he ever reached was destroying a super dimension of unspecified size

So the issue with DoSL is that it doesnt have a stated size?
What about the Hypertimeline stuff? Shouldn't Goku scale to that via Jiren > Infinite Zamasu?
Or the Daizenshuu statement that the Kai World trancends the living world?

I dont buy most of this stuff myself, but I am just curious about what arguments were used to debunk it

Also why does Zeno scale to 6-D? If the Macrocosm is 4d + Hypertimeline is 1d that should be 5d?

 

[Bernkastelll]

What about the Hypertimeline stuff? Shouldn't Goku scale to that via Jiren > Infinite Zamasu?

No, because they aren't above Infinite Zamasu at his potential peak, Zamasu was still merging with everything, he was erased before he finished doing so.

Or the Daizenshuu statement that the Kai World trancends the living world?

That's still not enough for Low 1-C (and this argument was brought here several times before), why would it be?

Also why does Zeno scale to 6-D? If the Macrocosm is 4d + Hypertimeline is 1d that should be 5d?

This was explained in the Hypertimeline blog

All this entails that a single Dragon Ball timeline, one with its own Macrocosms and divine hierarchy, includes a significant volume of 5-Dimensional space (Low 1-C; R5), and a higher temporal dimension (1-C; R6). On a final note, if we were to consider the precedents established in section 6.2 where we determined that the overarching timelines do not belong to a certain kind of causally-unified wider system of branches, an infinite Dragon Ball multiverse like the one(s) depicted in game continuities would be 1-C (6-D) in its entirety.

 

[supertomioka]

No, because they aren't above Infinite Zamasu at his potential peak,

I will never understand the reasoning behind this lie and why everyone seems to ride with it

 

[Bernkastelll]

I will never understand the reasoning behind this lie and why everyone seems to ride with it

Proof that its a lie?

 

[Xdsagecat]

No, because they aren't above Infinite Zamasu at his potential peak, Zamasu was still merging with everything, he was erased before he finished doing so.

Lmao