Maybe instead of using death manipulation, something half the randos in FF6 have resistance to, use like, anything else.
To be frank, I'm not a big Final Fantasy Fan, so I don't particularly know what is and isn't the norm for them. Again, I relent that it was a poor choice to be using death manip as a point of comparison.
@TheKingStrategist13 Kefka buffing his speed isn't really relevant here when he's already more than fast enough to cross hundreds of meters in a split second. Can you provide evidence the spirit of whispers is some thought based or passive ability Kafka can use that can cross the distance in a split second? Because your argument revolves around this being a thing for her. Yeah the frame one magic is compelling, you also seem to forget I also mentioned he can spam magic while flying. He's doing both at the same time so Kafka would have to deal with getting hit with magic spells that can durability negate her while she tries to close the distance to make some hand gestures to get close enough to hit him.
You literally have been ignoring my arguments when you keep strawmanning my points by saying Death Hax is the wincon when I've not once in this entire thread said Death Hax is the wincon for Kefka.
Because General Leo is one of the more powerful soldiers in the Gestahl empire and can shrug off normal Final Fantasy magic, he needed him wounded from his fight with his Shadow clone so he can sneak him in the last second. Kafka doesn't have any innate resistances to Final Fantasy magic, so her fighting a shadow clone of Kefka that can use the same spells he can normally do is going to be an uphill battle for her.
Spirit Whisper isn't thought based or Passive, but she can act just as quickly as he can. Her movement speed and his movement speed would be equal under speed equalized, so there needs to be some sort of proof that he can simply outspeed her reaction for him to get out of her range before she decides to use this ability.
Once again, to keep it simple:
Your arguement seems to be that he will fly out of her range before she uses her ability. They both have equalized speed, and he starts within her range. As such, unless he has some ability to move far faster with his flight than he does without it, there is no reason to assume he will cross the 10-20 meters before she can activate her ability. After all, it's not like Spirit Whisper takes forever to activate, it's a very simple and fast action, and with speed equalized, the action speed from both parties will become proportionate.
It is true that he could abuse various spells while flying. You weren't really focusing in on that point though, you brought it up maybe once, and then hard focused on him somehow being able to get away before she could act. I will admit I don't have a great counter to the combination of flying and magic, because the only argument against Magic is genuinely that "If he doesn't do it fast enough, he will lose." You don't believe he will sell, I do. Difference of opinion, simple as..
You aren't reading my messages evidently.
Death Hax is not the wincon at this point of the debate, I have not been treating it as such. I have been using it as a point of comparison. A faulty point, I admit. But you are putting words into my mouth when you say that I have been stawmanning and saying that his only wincon is Death Manip, that simply isn't what I said. I have admited that if he can just bypass everything and incinerate or freeze her, that he wins. May you please cease your false accusations?
Okay. I don't have much of a argument against that last bit. Just clarifying that so you don't assume I'm ignoring it.
Removing my vote as it's no longer needed for grace, Kefka Grace achieved.
... Uh, why remove your vote either way, even if it didn't push into grace in theory?
