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Skeleton Bunny fights a Giant Red Guy (3-0-0)

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Red vs Skeleton bunny

Rules​

  • Red is in his 4th Key, The Skeleton Bunny is in its 1st.
  • Fight takes place in an open field
  • Speed is equalized
  • Anything Above 7-B is restricted
  • SBA applies
  • They are 50 meters away from each other

Notes:​

Skeleton Bunny has:
58 Megatons of AP (1.706x Advantage)
43022.8052 Metric Tons Lifting Strength (Massive Disadvantage)
Several Meters of Range (Gigantic advantage)
Superhuman Stamina (Minor Advantage?)

Above Average Intelligence (Disadvantage)


Red has:
33.9967 Megatons of AP (1.706x Disadvantage)
142,057,512.742 Tons/force Lifting Strength (Massive 3301.9119x Advantage)

Tens of Meters physically, Kilometers of Energy Burst Range (Gigantic advantage)
Lesser(?) Superhuman Stamina (Minor Disadvantage?)
Gifted in both Combat and General Intelligence (Advantage)

Votes:​

Skeleton Bunny: @FlipLaScript @TheBoxofIncidents @Bookmanfpe

Red:

Inconclusive:
 
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I feel like Skeleton bunny could lose here, sure he has Surel physiology. but thats where his luck ends.

Red is an extremely adaptable individual when it comes to intelligence, he can immediately understand things once it hits him, and even understood that Orange was under human control without anything telling him
 
Though neither have true Hax (Except maybe Red's electricity manipulation). I am not sure if the heat from his energy bursts would work, because I am not sure if 88 was in the center of the 3 nukes he tanked. but even if he did, the hundreds of millions of degrees experienced in a nuclear bomb are in the first.... oh I dont know fraction of a microseconds to a few milliseconds, depending on the exact stage of the detonation.

Usually nukes in 1 - 10 seconds reach temperatures between 5000 - 7000 degrees, in the fireball I mean, so the outside is much cooler. The Hypocenter (Ground Zero): If the nuke is detonated in the air, the ground directly beneath it reaches roughly 3,800°C to 6,000°C. This is hot enough to instantly melt concrete, fuse brick, and vaporize organic tissue. but thats still nowhere near Red's heat

Red has notoriously been able to instantly vaporize steel with ease, sure gradual boiling of steel is much lower, but the vaporization within a single instant would need about the critical temperature of iron, or 8,500°C to 9,000°C, and in his profile its said the temperatures they reach are about 9000°C to 12000°C. this should be more than enough to burn the shit out of 88
 
I feel like Skeleton bunny could lose here, sure he has Surel physiology. but thats where his luck ends.
You're going to learn throughout the duration of this debate that Surel Physiology is a MUCH bigger pain in the ass than you think it's gonna be >:3

Though neither have true Hax (Except maybe Red's electricity manipulation). I am not sure if the heat from his energy bursts would work, because I am not sure if 88 was in the center of the 3 nukes he tanked. but even if he did, the hundreds of millions of degrees experienced in a nuclear bomb are in the first.... oh I dont know fraction of a microseconds to a few milliseconds, depending on the exact stage of the detonation.

Usually nukes in 1 - 10 seconds reach temperatures between 5000 - 7000 degrees, in the fireball I mean, so the outside is much cooler. The Hypocenter (Ground Zero): If the nuke is detonated in the air, the ground directly beneath it reaches roughly 3,800°C to 6,000°C. This is hot enough to instantly melt concrete, fuse brick, and vaporize organic tissue. but thats still nowhere near Red's heat

Red has notoriously been able to instantly vaporize steel with ease, sure gradual boiling of steel is much lower, but the vaporization within a single instant would need about the critical temperature of iron, or 8,500°C to 9,000°C, and in his profile its said the temperatures they reach are about 9000°C to 12000°C. this should be more than enough to burn the shit out of 88
Surel Users have crazy resistances to temperatures. Surel users have been able to be near, stand on and be within the core of stars, which can get to a crisp 15,000,000 celsius, so he should be fine with the heat stuff

I feel like Skeleton bunny could lose here, sure he has Surel physiology. but thats where his luck ends.

Red is an extremely adaptable individual when it comes to intelligence, he can immediately understand things once it hits him, and even understood that Orange was under human control without anything telling him
Experiment 88 definitely isnt the smartest, but he is incredibly persistent, which has helped him win fights before :3
 
Surel Users have crazy resistances to temperatures. Surel users have been able to be near, stand on and be within the core of stars, which can get to a crisp 15,000,000 celsius, so he should be fine with the heat stuff
Looking into Surel Physiology, the closest thing to being able to surviving inside of the cores of stars is for Nob, who is a Master user.
"Experiment 88 was also unaffected by being near stars in space" this would still be under that temperature range because it doesn't say anything about solar flares at all
assuming pre-ruby absorption (who is a novice) would be close to a master who did so is kind of silly unless you have evidence that 88 did that.

"(God Blood users, such as Nucleotherma, are capable of withstanding incredible heat. In specific, Alagay was capable of tanking being thrown in lava, while Nucleotherma was unaffected by being punched 3000 miles deep into the earth's crust by Experiment 88. Experiment 88 was also unaffected by being near stars in space and was completely unharmed by being within the earth's core, also tanking the heat of nuclear bombs without issue. Characters like Nob, meanwhile, have been entirely unaffected by sitting within the sun's core, with all of the characters listed being unaffected by being in space)"
exact quote in the physiology section implies that Nob and other characters in his class are the ones who can do that.

Nob is an Incomplete/Complete Corrupted and Master Surel User

Experiment 88 in this scenario is a Novice

If Novice < Master
then unless its proven that it applies to 88 aswell (I have already gone about the nuclear bomb thing), Experiment 88 isn't comparable to Nob.

Experiment 88 definitely isnt the smartest, but he is incredibly persistent, which has helped him win fights before :3
Persistent? Yes. However considering the fact that Red could easily just hit Experiment 88 with lightning multiple times (Experiment 88 has no resistance to electricity). He could easily just spam lightning and then pin him, and because Experiment 88 doesn't have the means to one-shot him, the range advantage, and the extremely adaptable fighting style he has, Red could probably overcome this too
 
Looking into Surel Physiology, the closest thing to being able to surviving inside of the cores of stars is for Nob, who is a Master user.
"Experiment 88 was also unaffected by being near stars in space" this would still be under that temperature range because it doesn't say anything about solar flares at all
assuming pre-ruby absorption (who is a novice) would be close to a master who did so is kind of silly unless you have evidence that 88 did that.

"(God Blood users, such as Nucleotherma, are capable of withstanding incredible heat. In specific, Alagay was capable of tanking being thrown in lava, while Nucleotherma was unaffected by being punched 3000 miles deep into the earth's crust by Experiment 88. Experiment 88 was also unaffected by being near stars in space and was completely unharmed by being within the earth's core, also tanking the heat of nuclear bombs without issue. Characters like Nob, meanwhile, have been entirely unaffected by sitting within the sun's core, with all of the characters listed being unaffected by being in space)"
exact quote in the physiology section implies that Nob and other characters in his class are the ones who can do that.

Nob is an Incomplete/Complete Corrupted and Master Surel User

Experiment 88 in this scenario is a Novice

If Novice < Master
then unless its proven that it applies to 88 aswell (I have already gone about the nuclear bomb thing), Experiment 88 isn't comparable to Nob.
Experiment 88 was still able to survive being within the earth's core, which is 6000 degrees celsius (not enough to resist fully but still)

Actually on that note

Though neither have true Hax (Except maybe Red's electricity manipulation). I am not sure if the heat from his energy bursts would work, because I am not sure if 88 was in the center of the 3 nukes he tanked. but even if he did, the hundreds of millions of degrees experienced in a nuclear bomb are in the first.... oh I dont know fraction of a microseconds to a few milliseconds, depending on the exact stage of the detonation.
This actually made me go back to Experiment 88's source material for the first time in a few years lmao

Quote The Kambo Co Files (the source material for experiment 88 up until he got sealed by one of The Creator's hive mind avatars), "Firstly, The two governments have all attempted to destroy Ex. 88. 3 nukes were dropped, directly on him one after another, then the ground forces and tanks went in to finish him off. "

That should make the 100,000,000 degrees celsius value applicable, and I'm quite positive that's too large of a heat difference between that and boiling steel for Red's heat to work effectively, even if it was for a short duration :000

Persistent? Yes. However considering the fact that Red could easily just hit Experiment 88 with lightning multiple times (Experiment 88 has no resistance to electricity). He could easily just spam lightning and then pin him, and because Experiment 88 doesn't have the means to one-shot him, the range advantage, and the extremely adaptable fighting style he has, Red could probably overcome this too
pushes up glasses

So remember that thing earlier about Surel Physiology being a pain in the ass? Well, there's one more thing to it that I'm pretty sure would allow him to win this: the fact that Surel Users, with enough willpower (which shouldn't be a problem for Experiment 88 given that he had enough willpower to literally fight god), can go up levels. In this case, this would allow Experiment 88 to become an Advanced Surel user, which would grant him some crazy regeneration and a massive stat boost. When Helse Syr did this after dying at the hands of Prime Tomato (just after being blitzed and one-shot by his second form), he was able to speed-blitz Prime Tomato and harm him incredibly easily, which required the work of Prime Tomato's third form just to fight on par with Helse Syr. This caused Helse Syr to jump from getting one-shot by High 6-C values to fighting on-par with 6-A+ values, which is a 11358.6047x AP jump at a minimum. Given, everything above 7-B here is restricted, so this would probably push Experiment 88 to a 99.9999 something megaton value, which is a much larger AP advantage than previous. That plus the speed-blitzing and I doubt that Red would be able to keep up with Experiment 88 once he comes back :0
 
That should make the 100,000,000 degrees celsius value applicable, and I'm quite positive that's too large of a heat difference between that and boiling steel for Red's heat to work effectively, even if it was for a short duration :000
Reminder that red doesnt just boil steel, he brings it to its critical point instantly.

also I have already pointed out that 100,000,000 degrees celcius can be as low as in a few fractions of a MICROSECOND. If we assume this is 0.5. The amount of equivalent temperature 50 degrees celsius. So he cant really scale to 100 million degrees
I doubt that Red would be able to keep up with Experiment 88 once he comes back
Comes back in what sense?
 
Reminder that red doesnt just boil steel, he brings it to its critical point instantly.

also I have already pointed out that 100,000,000 degrees celcius can be as low as in a few fractions of a MICROSECOND. If we assume this is 0.5. The amount of equivalent temperature 50 degrees celsius. So he cant really scale to 100 million degrees
If Experiment 88 didnt scale to the full 100 million degrees, he'd be vaporized by the nuke and would die :0

Also, if this were the case, this means that characters like Bakugo, Deku & Megumin wouldnt have any resistance to heat from the explosions they took either (with these explosions taking similar or less time than Experiment 88's nuke for their full heat).

Comes back in what sense?
He has a one-time revive and incredible stat amp that activates upon death given his high willpower, more is explained above :3
 
If Experiment 88 wouldnt scale to the full 100 million degrees, he'd be vaporized by the nuke and would die :0

Also, if this were the case, this means that characters like Bakugo, Deku & Megumin wouldnt have any resistance to heat from the explosions they took either (with these explosions taking similar or less time than Experiment 88's nuke for their full heat).
Those characters should only be scaling to the 5000-7000 degree Celsius temperatures. because 0.5 microseconds of 100 million degrees is the equivalent of getting hit by 50 degrees for one second. but 5000-7000 lasts longer
He has a one-time revive and incredible stat amp that activates upon death given his high willpower, more is explained above :3
If Red can know info without it being revealed, he can probably figure this out and decide to not kill him and instead do something else, like incapacitate via pinning or electrocution. He may be aggressive, but he isn't stupid
 
"well orange had a collar" how would he know what the collar does beforehand, its never shown that he thinks that Collar = Controlled
 
Those characters should only be scaling to the 5000-7000 degree Celsius temperatures. because 0.5 microseconds of 100 million degrees is the equivalent of getting hit by 50 degrees for one second. but 5000-7000 lasts longer
...what? How does that make sense? TwT

This is really confusing for me and I doubt it's correct, so imma call in a friend to prove/disprove its validity :0

If Red can know info without it being revealed, he can probably figure this out and decide to not kill him and instead do something else, like incapacitate via pinning or electrocution. He may be aggressive, but he isn't stupid
How would Red find out about the revive? Theres no indicator of any sort about Experiment 88's revive until after he's already dead. Him knowing what Orange's collar did could have been found out by any number of things (such as gathering intel, rumors, etc), it should be specified if it's an ability :0

(Also, Prime Tomato, who has similar Combat IQ to Red, had absolutely no clue Helse Syr would come back, to the point of walking away from the crater he made by punching Helse Syr :000)
 
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...what? How does that make sense? TwT

This is really confusing for me and I doubt it's correct, so imma call in a friend to prove/disprove its validity :0
Yo wsg I'm Dawn aka that friend.
Those characters should only be scaling to the 5000-7000 degree Celsius temperatures. because 0.5 microseconds of 100 million degrees is the equivalent of getting hit by 50 degrees for one second. but 5000-7000 lasts longer
Temperature on that scale rises stupidly slow and by the time you've been hit by anything above 100° you're gonna be scorching hot overtime I will say. .5 microseconds, assuming that nothing has been altered in the middle of getting whalloped, is either going to keep rising but slowly, or decrease quickly.

However...

This is assuming that a nuke's explosion's temperatures are slow and overtime. In the case of Exp. 88 getting hit by a nuke and I'd assume point blank (Flip feel free here to correct me), he should scale to those temperatures assuming he had handles scenarios like those, because those ******* are hawt.

TL;DR: I am Dawn and I disagree with this claim with my ratty rational. @ me when there's a winner because this is not my debate to participate AND I'm busy.
 
Temperature on that scale rises stupidly slow and by the time you've been hit by anything above 100° you're gonna be scorching hot overtime I will say. .5 microseconds, assuming that nothing has been altered in the middle of getting whalloped, is either going to keep rising but slowly, or decrease quickly.
Nuclear weapons go from 100 million degrees celcius to just 5000-7000 degrees celcius in 1 to 10 seconds. And its peak temperature disappears pretty quickyl
This is assuming that a nuke's explosion's temperatures are slow and overtime. In the case of Exp. 88 getting hit by a nuke and I'd assume point blank (Flip feel free here to correct me), he should scale to those temperatures assuming he had handles scenarios like those,
Even if you were in the exact epicenter of a nuclear blast, you would vaporize, but you wouldnt be hit with those temperatures for long enough to be able to withstand CONSTANT 100 million degrees celcius.

Its a part of the reason why the earth around a nuclear blast doesnt get instantly turned into superheated plasma. if it constantly had temperatures of 100 million degrees celcius for even one second, the earth around the blast would be turned into plasma. Regardless if it detonated on the surface or if it detonated at the standard nuclear detonation heigh
 
How would Red find out about the revive? Theres no indicator of any sort about Experiment 88's revive until after he's already dead. Him knowing what Orange's collar did could have been found out by any number of things (such as gathering intel, rumors, etc), it should be specified if it's an ability :0
Thats just appeal to speculation. Nothing in his fight with orange (because he had no time to prepare) indicates he heard of anything regarding mind control, and he deduced it anyway. And yeah that is left out information analysis that I forgot about maybe
 
Also there is the fact that nukes (especially the one you used for your character) detonate in an airburst.
It still detonated directly on top of him :u

Nuclear weapons go from 100 million degrees celcius to just 5000-7000 degrees celcius in 1 to 10 seconds. And its peak temperature disappears pretty quickyl

Even if you were in the exact epicenter of a nuclear blast, you would vaporize, but you wouldnt be hit with those temperatures for long enough to be able to withstand CONSTANT 100 million degrees celcius.

Its a part of the reason why the earth around a nuclear blast doesnt get instantly turned into superheated plasma. if it constantly had temperatures of 100 million degrees celcius for even one second, the earth around the blast would be turned into plasma. Regardless if it detonated on the surface or if it detonated at the standard nuclear detonation heigh
Wouldnt being able to survive a small dose of 100 million degrees outweigh a constant stream of 12,000 degrees, given that the difference is over 30x?

Im not going to argue on this fact anymore, I'm quite confident Experiment 88 has the required heat stuff to tank all of Red's heat stuff :0

Thats just appeal to speculation. Nothing in his fight with orange (because he had no time to prepare) indicates he heard of anything regarding mind control, and he deduced it anyway. And yeah that is left out information analysis that I forgot about maybe
Thats appeal to speculation cuz I didnt think there would be any logical explanations besides that given the fight context TvT

...or it could be a plot hole rather than an ability, I sincerely doubt it is any kind of ability :u
 
And even if he was in the fireball due to the fact that tsar bomba is a nuke that hit the ground despite being midair, its not epicenter
 
Nah he can genuinely just figure it out mid fight
...
Im speechless TwT

Does it say this literally anywhere in the original content or profile? I've scoured all of the video descriptions and it says jack about any info analysis-type ability, it just seems like a plot hole, especially since it was one time :u

Regardless, I dont realistically see any way that Red can tell the death stuff is coming beforehand, nor that he'd realistically try to KO 88 instead of killing him. That plus the heat stuff not working and I'm quite sure experiment 88 has this :0
 
In what way? Explosion or bomb? If its the bomb itself, tsar bomba should not be used because tsar bomba is detonated midair.
I used the Tsar Bomb because it was likely that the governments of the world would try to use their strongest weaponry on Experiment 88 in order to take him out, and the Tsar Bomb is currently humanity's strongest deployed weapon :0
 
I used the Tsar Bomb because it was likely that the governments of the world would try to use their strongest weaponry on Experiment 88 in order to take him out, and the Tsar Bomb is currently humanity's strongest deployed weapon :0
Detonating the bomb directly on top of something when using the tsar bomba (especially 3 ******* times) would cause so much damage to the earth that the ground forces, even with the most advanced radiation shielding on the planet, would have ******* died regardless due to fallout and the fact that the area would be so filled with gamma radiation that any normally biological organism would be completely incapacitated in just 10 seconds.
While it takes hours for the heart to stop beating, a human becomes clinically useless and functionally dead in less than 10 seconds due to Cerebrovascular Syndrome
 
Detonating the bomb directly on top of something when using the tsar bomba (especially 3 ******* times) would cause so much damage to the earth that the ground forces, even with the most advanced radiation shielding on the planet, would have ******* died regardless due to fallout and the fact that the area would be so filled with gamma radiation that any normally biological organism would be completely incapacitated in just 10 seconds.
While it takes hours for the heart to stop beating, a human becomes clinically useless and functionally dead in less than 10 seconds due to Cerebrovascular Syndrome
It's stated that the troops were moved in after the explosions (it would be stupid to drop a nuke on 1.4 billion troops). I was in 7th grade when I wrote this so not a lot of thought was put into the radiation, and Magnus Olsen (the guy wielding the God Sword) was unaffected by it, so it wouldnt be a stretch to think the troops werent super affected either (albeit it wasnt specified what they were wearing, just that they were mainly from the U.S and Russia).

It wouldnt be a stretch to think that humanity at this point has invented higher-grade radiation shielding also. In this version of earth, the government built a testing lab in the center of the earth and also helped Magnus Olsen create the God Sword with god blood-nullifying power - extraordinary genius type stuff :0
 
It's stated that the troops were moved in after the explosions (it would be stupid to drop a nuke on 1.4 billion troops)
That... doesnt change anything?
The environmental effects of 3 TSAR BOMBAS detonating on the surface and not in the air would make the environment completely uninhabitable. Even for a few seconds
 
It wouldnt be a stretch to think that humanity at this point has invented higher-grade radiation shielding also.
Oh but we are just getting started with the effects of detonating 3 tsar bombas directly on the surface of the earth
Considering that:
the crater would be so deep that it would reach hundreds if not thousands of feet deep

The general environment would be so hot it would make Tantalum Hafnium Carbide structurely fail

And the fact that it would create a permanent atmospheric vacuum or firestorm.

This is why detonating 3 tsar bombas directly on the ground is completely impractical. Even for desperate measures
 
strongest deployed weapon
Also, funny you should mention that. The TSAR BOMBA is actually NOT the strongest deployed weapon, it is the strongest TESTED weapon. The strongest nuclear weapon DEPLOYED was the B41 nuclear bomb, which capped at 25 megatons of TNT. It was officially in service from 1961 to 1976.
 
That... doesnt change anything?
The environmental effects of 3 TSAR BOMBAS detonating on the surface and not in the air would make the environment completely uninhabitable. Even for a few seconds

Oh but we are just getting started with the effects of detonating 3 tsar bombas directly on the surface of the earth
Considering that:
the crater would be so deep that it would reach hundreds if not thousands of feet deep

The general environment would be so hot it would make Tantalum Hafnium Carbide structurely fail

And the fact that it would create a permanent atmospheric vacuum or firestorm.

This is why detonating 3 tsar bombas directly on the ground is completely impractical. Even for desperate measures
Experiment 88 and The Kambo Co files was made by me in seventh grade, it is not the most scientifically accurate piece of literature the land has ever known, nor generally scientifically accurate (as my stories are usually) TwT

Also, funny you should mention that. The TSAR BOMBA is actually NOT the strongest deployed weapon, it is the strongest TESTED weapon. The strongest nuclear weapon DEPLOYED was the B41 nuclear bomb, which capped at 25 megatons of TNT. It was officially in service from 1961 to 1976.
My dude, you are splitting hairs here and we're getting really off-topic 😭

I presume that the worlds governments would use their strongest available weapon, which I'm quite positive is the Tsar Bomb :0

Is there any more arguments for Red? :0
 
Experiment 88 and The Kambo Co files was made by me in seventh grade, it is not the most scientifically accurate piece of literature the land has ever known, nor generally scientifically accurate (as my stories are usually) TwT


My dude, you are splitting hairs here and we're getting really off-topic 😭

I presume that the worlds governments would use their strongest available weapon, which I'm quite positive is the Tsar Bomb :0

Is there any more arguments for Red? :0
Tbh I dont see a win condition
 
Tbh I dont see a win condition
For Red or for Experiment 88? :0

Both have win cons. Experiment 88 has either killing Red before he dies or much more easily killing Red after he dies. Meanwhile, Red has the unlikely to happen circumstance of KO-ing Experiment 88 :u
 
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For Red or for Experiment 88? :0

Both have win cons. Experiment 88 has either killing Red before he dies or much more easily killing Red after he dies. Meanwhile, Red has the unlikely to happen circumstance of KO-ing Experiment 88 :u
Reds win con goes into WOG. So idk
 
Reds win con goes into WOG. So idk
Red's win con goes into word of god?-

For a match to be a stomp, one character has to have absolutely no means of defeating the other. Red does have a way via KO, but it seems more likely Experiment 88 is able to achieve his win cons first :0
 
I dont think Red potentially KO-ing experiment 88 counts as word of god. If you're talking about the information analysis stuff though, that makes sense :0

Im going to start by voting for Experiment 88. Even if Red does kill the dude, he's going to come back with significantly higher stats to the point of blitzing speed-wise. Red's only viable wino con is Ko-ing Experiment 88, which is more likely to be accidental rather than purposeful :000
 
I dont think Red potentially KO-ing experiment 88 counts as word of god. If you're talking about the information analysis stuff though, that makes sense :0

Im going to start by voting for Experiment 88. Even if Red does kill the dude, he's going to come back with significantly higher stats to the point of blitzing speed-wise. Red's only viable wino con is Ko-ing Experiment 88, which is more likely to be accidental rather than purposeful :000
The second best thing is pinning Experiment 88, but thats about it
 

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