Natsuki Subaru VS Gojo Satoru

[Niklmfao]

Rules:
1. Natsuki Subaru is in his Arc 10 key with all Optional Equipment (9-B, 9-B with Whip, higher with Invisible Providence, higher with Beatrice) while Gojo Satoru has up to 7-B with his Cursed Techniques.
2. Speed is equalized.
3. Starting distance is 20m.
4. SBA.

Vote:
Natsuki Subaru:
Gojo Satoru:
Inconclusive:

 

[Random-Helper323]

9-B vs 7-B. Is there any reason this isn't a stomp?

 

[Niklmfao]

9-B vs 7-B. Is there any reason this isn't a stomp?

9-B is only physically. There are spells that are much higher tiered that Natsuki can cast.

 

[NitroWatch]

I think this depends on who can figure out their wincons first. Like Subaru using BFR or Gojo using domain expansion. I think Subaru would win tho since Gojo doesn’t really use domain expansion at first and would use something like purple or blue to instant kill Subaru. Subaru would realize Gojo isn’t something to be trifled with, and use Ui/Al shamak next loop

 

[Niklmfao]

I think this depends on who can figure out their wincons first. Like Subaru using BFR or Gojo using domain expansion. I think Subaru would win tho since Gojo doesn’t really use domain expansion at first and would use something like purple or blue to instant kill Subaru. Subaru would realize Gojo isn’t something to be trifled with, and use Ui/Al shamak next loop

Subaru also has Invisible Providence. That bypasses infinity, so he can do that too. And Beatrice can help Subaru dodge his attacks, so I don't think it'll be an insta-kill. Subaru also have Ol Shamak, which can seal Gojo but that's probably not needed.

 

[NitroWatch]

Subaru also has Invisible Providence. That bypasses infinity, so he can do that too. And Beatrice can help Subaru dodge his attacks, so I don't think it'll be an insta-kill. Subaru also have Ol Shamak, which can seal Gojo but that's probably not needed.

Invisible providence would literally do no damage to Gojo even if it bypassed infinity and Gojo’s blue can pull his opponents closer, rendering dodging useless

 

[AThe1412]

9-B vs 7-B. Is there any reason this isn't a stomp?

Yeah, I don't see how Subaru won't eventually win here. Gojo won't go for UV right away, and every time Subaru dies, he forgets about it and just kills him again. The cycle repeats until Subaru uses his wincons.

 

[Niklmfao]

Invisible providence would literally do no damage to Gojo even if it bypassed infinity and Gojo’s blue can pull his opponents closer, rendering dodging useless

If Subaru crushed Gojo's heart or brain stem or something, Gojo would die. And yeah Gojo can use blue but it's very much possible for Subaru to win if he uses EMM to propel himself towards Gojo, then use IP to one-shot him.

 

[Mbpoops]

how does subaru or beatrice touch gojo

 

[NitroWatch]

how does subaru or beatrice touch gojo

Bfr

 

[Phoenks]

Gojo only win con is 0.2 second domain expansion. Meanwhile Subaru has multiple options like space manipulation, BFR, black holes, invisible Providence...

So Subaru just wins on versatility and likelihood of win condition happening.

 

[Mbpoops]

Bfr

fairs

 

[Niklmfao]

how does subaru or beatrice touch gojo

spatial manip, invisible providence, not to mention that they have Shamak which would do wonders to Gojo.

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

Subaru resists mind hax, dawg. UV isn't doing anything to him.


And Infinity isn't stopping Minya either. They're time-stopping crystals. On top of that, Beatrice has multiple forms of spatial manipulation, so bypassing Infinity would be a complete cakewalk for her.

but if yall disagree with that then count my vote for

 

[TauanVictor]

Satoru's Profile is outdated. Probably this needs to be closed.

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

Satoru's Profile is outdated. Probably this needs to be closed.

its not like he is getting anything added that will change this matchup atm, and other matchups have been made for jjk too so i think this is fine

 

[Niklmfao]

Satoru's Profile is outdated. Probably this needs to be closed.

Nothing that needs to be added for Gojo would change this matchup, so it's fine as it is.

 

[Niklmfao]

Subaru resists mind hax, dawg. UV isn't doing anything to him.


And Infinity isn't stopping Minya either. They're time-stopping crystals. On top of that, Beatrice has multiple forms of spatial manipulation, so bypassing Infinity would be a complete cakewalk for her.

but if yall disagree with that then count my vote for

So Subaru FRA?

 

[LaserPrecision]

If we think Subaru has a 100% win-rate, and nothing that could be added to the profile would change how the match go then what're we voting for. It'd just be a stomp match.

 

[Phoenks]

If we think Subaru has a 100% win-rate, and nothing that could be added to the profile would change how the match go then what're we voting for. It'd just be a stomp match.

Subaru doesn't have a 100% win rate and Satella is wanking as always.

Subaru does not resist UV. He doesn't resist information type 1 being pumped into his head.

And no, Minya does not bypass Infinity. It time stops whatever it hits. It has to hit you to time stop you. It isn't hitting Gojo through Infinity.

Gojo has win conditions if he uses a short duration UV or just KOs. They are simply unlikely, so Subaru wins majority of the time via his actual methods of bypassing Infinity.

 

[Niklmfao]

Subaru doesn't have a 100% win rate and Satella is wanking as always.

Subaru does not resist UV. He doesn't resist information type 1 being pumped into his head.

And no, Minya does not bypass Infinity. It time stops whatever it hits. It has to hit you to time stop you. It isn't hitting Gojo through Infinity.

Gojo has win conditions if he uses a short duration UV or just KOs. They are simply unlikely, so Subaru wins majority of the time via his actual methods of bypassing Infinity.

Problem with short duration UV is that, its OOC for him to do that. And a regular KO could work, but he does have Beatrice with him, so Gojo would need to do both of them at the same time. Otherwise one would wake the other. Not to mention, it'd be OOC for him to KO too since he doesn't normally do that in 1v1s, since I'm assuming they're fighting to the death. Not to mention, one full UV would kill Subaru and he'd be able to come back from that.

TLDR; Gojo has wincons, but is OOC to do them (since he doesn't know about RBD). Subaru has too many wincons that are in-character.

 

[LaserPrecision]

Gojo has win conditions if he uses a short duration UV or just KOs. They are simply unlikely, so Subaru wins majority of the time via his actual methods of bypassing Infinity.

What moves actually bypass infinity then and what do they do?

 

[LaserPrecision]

Problem with short duration UV is that, its OOC for him to do that. And a regular KO could work, but he does have Beatrice with him, so Gojo would need to do both of them at the same time. Otherwise one would wake the other. Not to mention, it'd be OOC for him to KO too since he doesn't normally do that in 1v1s, since I'm assuming they're fighting to the death. Not to mention, one full UV would kill Subaru and he'd be able to come back from that.

TLDR; Gojo has wincons, but is OOC to do them (since he doesn't know about RBD). Subaru has too many wincons that are in-character.

Gojo has never once used Unlimited Void to kill someone in the entire series. He's tried/killed people after affecting them with it, but he's never once shown trying to kill someone with information overload. Not Jogo, not the Disaster Curses/Transfigured humans, nor Sukuna.

So how can you say it's out of character when every time we've seen him use it it wasn't to kill someone with it. That'd be an assertion without evidence to substantiate it (Even if you want to argue the circumstances of each).