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[0-0-0] Can the Saint bless my Slice - Reinhard Vs Dante - Re:Zero vs Devil May Cry

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Reinhard decides to steal Dante's Pizza​

Combatants:
Reinhard:
  • AP: >>> 23.9622 Teratons of TNT
  • LS: >>> 7.51934701e16 kg

Dante (DMC 3 Pre DT Key):
  • AP: 9.6 Megatons Of Tnt
  • LS: 101.97162 Metric Tons

Arena + Rules:
  • The Battle takes place in a Pizza Hut - a classical one
  • The Combatants starts 10 meters apart
  • Both Characters are in Character
  • Speed is Equalized
Music:

Votes:
  • I understand your regrets. I feel the same way. However, I cannot allow you to blindly lash out because of those feelings. Your vow wounds the world itself. —That is something I absolutely cannot forgive. Yes, because it is not just. —Justice is my standard. My sword… exists to right wrongs. For that reason, I shall cut you down here and now, O Great Spirit:
  • I need some Strawberry Sundae: @Ang4I00
  • Netflix Victims:
 
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This match is dead but I have to ask, what does Reinhard do? why the meme?
He has good resistances and a ilities overall, but his big thing is existence erasure, and there's currently a revision challenging it. If it goes through he's going to be losing a lot of his wins and his ability to fight stronger characters.
 
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His thing is existence erasure, and there's currently a revision challenging it. If it goes through he's going to be losing a lot of his wins and his ability to fight stronger characters.
I see. Well, assuming the thread gets rejected he still won't be able to kill Dante and erasing his body will only trigger this:

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Saw this coming a mile away.
Anyway, the only real wincon Rein has here is KOing Dante with his superior AP, which you can't really do with a sword normally. His EE is useless, this Dante has Low Godly regen so he will just come back instantly. Dante's also a much more versatile fighter from what I'm reading, he can Royal Guard any attack and tp with Trickster if needed. Dante's wincon is gonna be either shooting him with E&I deconstruction or deciding to do soul damage on any attack so he can one shot. Voting for Dante because I think his wincon is far more reliable here.
 
Saw this coming a mile away.
Anyway, the only real wincon Rein has here is KOing Dante with his superior AP, which you can't really do with a sword normally. His EE is useless, this Dante has Low Godly regen so he will just come back instantly. Dante's also a much more versatile fighter from what I'm reading, he can Royal Guard any attack and tp with Trickster if needed. Dante's wincon is gonna be either shooting him with E&I deconstruction or deciding to do soul damage on any attack so he can one shot. Voting for Dante because I think his wincon is far more reliable here.
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Saw this coming a mile away.
Anyway, the only real wincon Rein has here is KOing Dante with his superior AP, which you can't really do with a sword normally. His EE is useless, this Dante has Low Godly regen so he will just come back instantly. Dante's also a much more versatile fighter from what I'm reading,
what does he have here that makes him more versatile?
he can Royal Guard any attack
he hasnt guarded against any attacks using royal guard that is that much stronger than him. So no, this isnt working.
and tp with Trickster if needed.
And that helps him how? The gluttonies can teleport too and they aren't a threat to Reinhard.
Dante's wincon is gonna be either shooting him with E&I deconstruction
if you try to shoot anything at him, it will change direction. He could also just dodge it
or deciding to do soul damage on any attack so he can one shot. Voting for Dante because I think his wincon is far more reliable here.
Dante isnt skilled enough to hit him before Reinhard knocks him out with a single hit

I am sure dante has more than this right?
 
what does he have here that makes him more versatile?
Mostly the fact that he has more equipment available like Cerberus/Agni & Rudra and his styles
he hasnt guarded against any attacks using royal guard that is that much stronger than him. So no, this isnt working.
It will work because RG is power null.
And that helps him how? The gluttonies can teleport too and they aren't a threat to Reinhard.
Just an advantage in mobility, not saying it's a deciding factor or anything.
Dante isnt skilled enough to hit him before Reinhard knocks him out with a single hit
You would have to elaborate on that one since both are EG and I didn't see anything that makes Rein overwhelmingly more skilled than what basic Sparda Inheritance provides.
I am sure dante has more than this right?
I mean, Rein's ESP might cook him since he will just get hit by the passives due to feeling his aura and will get his soul crushed.
Rein is also cooked if he ever tries to KO him really since it will just trigger Majin DT which will power null him into oblivion
 
Doesn’t Dante have his demonic haxes active in his human form? I think this has been understood since the "hybrids" section in demonic physiology was removed.
 
Doesn’t Dante have his demonic haxes active in his human form? I think this has been understood since the "hybrids" section in demonic physiology was removed.
Dante only does that when he is:
a) bloodlusted
b) Going all out in battle
c) Angry, like really angry

Otherwise he just **** round. Now, given the huge AP gap I don't think he will get the time to do any of those, instead Majin form will take over and just insta hax Reinhard.

Skill is irrelevant because AP/LS difference, any sword clash will just be tearing Dante apart and that's enough to trigger Majin.

Reinhard doesn't have any hax that works or kills Dante nor will he know his only option is to be as careful as possible and try to KO Dante.
 
Mostly the fact that he has more equipment available like Cerberus/Agni & Rudra and his styles

It will work because RG is power null.

Just an advantage in mobility, not saying it's a deciding factor or anything.

You would have to elaborate on that one since both are EG and I didn't see anything that makes Rein overwhelmingly more skilled than what basic Sparda Inheritance provides.
EG isnt a deciding factor in skill especially since its not even usable for skill scaling anymore. That doesn't matter anyways because its variable, like ayanokouji was genius or EG in combat skill and still would have been cooked by a low tier with gifted rating. Feats are all that matters, and dante's section is empty in that. He doesnt have a response to a perfect sword slash that will instantly knock him out.
I mean, Rein's ESP might cook him since he will just get hit by the passives due to feeling his aura and will get his soul crushed.
Rein is also cooked if he ever tries to KO him really since it will just trigger Majin DT which will power null him into oblivion
Reinhard resists soul crush, how does the power null work?
 
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Skill is irrelevant because AP/LS difference, any sword clash will just be tearing Dante apart and that's enough to trigger Majin.

Reinhard doesn't have any hax that works or kills Dante nor will he know his only option is to be as careful as possible and try to KO Dante.
Reinhard's intuition will allow him to choose the optimal action to win, in this case its KO so he would go for that

btw if majin dt activates even if he is knocked out then this is a stomp
 
EG isnt a deciding factor in skill especially since its not even usable for skill scaling anymore. That doesn't matter anyways because its variable, like ayanokouji was genius or EG in combat skill and still would have been cooked by a low tier with gifted rating. Feats are all that matters, and dante's section is empty in that. He doesnt have a response to a perfect sword slash that will instantly knock him out.
<Sword slash
<knock him out

fam a sword slash is a lethal attack lol

as for the whole skill slop, I can start spouting bs tomorrow but like I said that's irrelevant given the massive stat difference, one tap and Rein gets consumed by darkess
Reinhard resists soul crush, how does the power null work?
Oh he won't be resisting anything.

Even ignoring how soul hax carries Concept 1 and Info 2 Dante has enough layers to just stand there if he decided to start with that and kill Reinhard.
 
<Sword slash
<knock him out

fam a sword slash is a lethal attack lol
he doesnt need to unsheath his sword, he has fought with the scabbard before but even without that, he can choose to just fight barehanded instead.
as for the whole skill slop, I can start spouting bs tomorrow but like I said that's irrelevant given the massive stat difference, one tap and Rein gets consumed by darkess
you are speaking as if Reinhard can't control his power when an inferior cecilus managed to take down an army without killing a single person😭
Oh he won't be resisting anything.

Even ignoring how soul hax carries Concept 1 and Info 2 Dante has enough layers to just stand there if he decided to start with that and kill Reinhard.
He doesnt start with it though so thats fine
 
EG isnt a deciding factor in skill especially since its not even usable for skill scaling anymore. That doesn't matter anyways because its variable, like ayanokouji was genius or EG in combat skill and still would have been cooked by a low tier with gifted rating. Feats are all that matters, and dante's section is empty in that. He doesnt have a response to a perfect sword slash that will instantly knock him out.
In case of Dante his EG is directly linked to his combat skills but yeah, I see what you mean.
The profile just kinda sucks so it's missing a lot stuff, I can tell some stuff though, I have it in text but gathering the scans for that is something that I don't have time for right now.
Reinhard resists soul crush, how does the power null work?
Not this soul crush since it's CM1, Info 2 and layered to hell.
Basically wraps the opponent in darkness and power nulls him instantly, it's on the profile in his first key.
 
Dante definitely has a lot of skill. He can instantly master any fighting style or weapon. This is both shown and described.
 
Dante definitely has a lot of skill. He can instantly master any fighting style or weapon. This is both shown and described.
this isnt really worth anything when you're talking about sword saints.
Reinhard's swordsmanship is unparalleled even when compared to past Sword Saints such as Theresia van Astrea, who stood at the very pinnacle of swordsmanship, the sheer might of her overwhelming, natural-born genius utterly crushing the time and effort of anyone else. The Divine Protection of the Sword Saint bestowed her flawless battle instincts, regardless of whether it's a holy sword, enchanted sword, or even the Dragon Sword itself, no steel would not lay bare in her hands, and she was even blessed with intimate knowledge of not only swords, but any weapon whatsoever so long as it was connected to battle. To even the skilled soldiers of the Kingdom, all Theresia saw in their fighting styles were imperfections— when the soldiers’ mistakes were pointed out to them by her one by one, they would eventually correct themselves. However, from Theresia’s perspective, although the way of fixing those faults may be correct, it was never enough. Without even turning around, she caught Wilhelm's silent surprise attack which came from behind her between 2 fingers. She thought Wilhelm's swordsmanship was lacking in his youth, despite him already being the most skilled swordsman in the Kingdom. Wilhelm himself thought Theresia's swordsmanship could never be reached in a lifetime or eternity. Merely witnessing Theresia in battle made Wilhelm despair for his own ability as a swordsman, to the point that he was confused as to how anyone could worry for her safety even as she fought a thousand soldiers by herself. While she was unarmed, a light dancing step from Theresia completely nullified the ultimate demonstration of Wilhelm's life as a swordsman, as if he were merely a little boy.
Even if you spend an eternity training, you did still not be able to reach Theresia's level of skill. These are also not fodder but absolute masters of their field. To compare btw, Reinhard is at a level which is unachievable for even the sword saints; including Theresia.

I suggest you go through Reinhard's intelligence section, there is more stuff but it still covers the basics at the very least
 
Reinhard's swordsmanship is unparalleled even when compared to past Sword Saints such as Theresia van Astrea, who stood at the very pinnacle of swordsmanship, the sheer might of her overwhelming, natural-born genius utterly crushing the time and effort of anyone else. The Divine Protection of the Sword Saint bestowed her flawless battle instincts, regardless of whether it's a holy sword, enchanted sword, or even the Dragon Sword itself, no steel would not lay bare in her hands, and she was even blessed with intimate knowledge of not only swords, but any weapon whatsoever so long as it was connected to battle. To even the skilled soldiers of the Kingdom, all Theresia saw in their fighting styles were imperfections— when the soldiers’ mistakes were pointed out to them by her one by one, they would eventually correct themselves. However, from Theresia’s perspective, although the way of fixing those faults may be correct, it was never enough. Without even turning around, she caught Wilhelm's silent surprise attack which came from behind her between 2 fingers. She thought Wilhelm's swordsmanship was lacking in his youth, despite him already being the most skilled swordsman in the Kingdom. Wilhelm himself thought Theresia's swordsmanship could never be reached in a lifetime or eternity. Merely witnessing Theresia in battle made Wilhelm despair for his own ability as a swordsman, to the point that he was confused as to how anyone could worry for her safety even as she fought a thousand soldiers by herself. While she was unarmed, a light dancing step from Theresia completely nullified the ultimate demonstration of Wilhelm's life as a swordsman, as if he were merely a little boy.
Honestly that only seems on par with what Tony/early Dante can do.

Natural genius that is above the time and effort of others? Check.

Can use any weapon no matter what? Check

Catching imperfections in fighting styles? check

Instinctive actions? That too


Like for example, The Sparda bloodline are almost perfect beings capable of achieving anything, conquering tasks they had yet to master in a few seconds and mastering any moveset in mere moments of observation. Gilver, a demon created with the battle data of Vergil, Dante and Sparda , became familiar with a gun in seconds despite not knowing much about firearms and be uncomfortable with them in the first place and both Dante and Vergil have shown to be able to use any weapon with extreme mastery despite only getting a hold of them seconds prior. Dante can blend art and science in his movesets and has shown to be able to quickly master all the objects, weapons and vehicles he uses. Gilver, being a clone of the Sparda bloodline, has all the skill of them obviously and as such he can can detect patterns behind opponent's attack in an instant and read all their moves, is capable of completely analyze the sword of the enemy and become aware of all it's capabilities. Heck the scan even mentions how their skills keep evolving as the fight goes on. Not to mention there is some skill wank that says Dante's skill is beyond human capacity and can attack without any time lag from all angles and all directions at the same time.

Sparda himself is (or was) an old demon who is often claimed to be the greatest swordsman among their entire race. Idk about Re:0 but if we are glazing time and soldiers and all that shit then we are dealing with beings that predate the existence of the universe, had time to train, hone their abilities and become stronger/better and still fall short to Sparda's sword skills.

That's all ignoring how they can copy fighting styles in mere seconds after observing them so even if by some miracle Reinhard had the edge on skill it would become useless as Dante copies it and keeps evolving.
 
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