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IM2 backed up by some CM3.
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Honkai: Star Rail Discussion Thread
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Idk im2 seems weird for that. It's not like information is changed, elation still exists and taste ofc exists in all its forms. It's just that a whole targeted range of beings can no longer taste through the act of removing their concept's tastebuds, and I do think what they're trying to show fits best with CM2.
It probably depends on the staff icl. There's other similar cases in HSR like the path of permanence changing / being manipulated into various smaller paths.
It does genuinely feel like the writing is yelling towards conceptuality and it's just being shrugged off because 'its energy' despite that being what the story is yelling about. VSBW is awkward like that ig.
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Nova is a she?
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Not sure why that wouldn’t fit IM2. What the concepts of a Path determine is the functionality of the Path Energy. That’s really all.
Nono. I know that’s what it’s trying for. But I also know that it’s in the intention of the writers to harmonize the idea with the quantum mysticism-esque setting of Honkai.
Because again, if Shaoji were taking the ideas incorporated into the series as they are in an isolated fashion, it’d surely scale higher. Unfortunately the way they work are altered to fit the themes of the aforementioned “setting”.
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Woomy just has a genderbend kink.
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No clue why the msg duplicated.
Fun side-tangent because I do feel like Shaoji and the writers have made a good framework for CM and explaining it to an audience less-powerscaly, it's just that it doesn't completely fit in with what VSBW wants with energy being CM.
i mean... Ruan Mei herself said a concept was removed
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Not CM, but CM2, if we’re being technical with it.
I know. I’m not sure how that changes anything though.
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Imo, path itself should be type 2 concept, but draw energy from path produce isn't the same thing with manipulating concept (like pathsrider) as much like aeon do
To me it kinda like
Path = concept type 2
Using energy from path ≠ CM2
But changed the path itself the way like aha do voracity = CM2
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There’s an issue with this in that the Path itself is the energy.
Not that it matters much because your claim would make the function of the Paths double. So there’s the concept itself which affects all particulars, but there’s also the energy that does the same thing. Which would just be highly unparsimonous.
the line itself states a concept was removed, thats the positive evidence for CM2. if you think that's actually describing an energy-level functionality change dressed in conceptual language, thats your reading, and id want to see what in the text supports reading it that way rather than at face value
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to be honest, the voracity thing is a CM1 feat.
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Yea this doesn’t address the second paragraph of my message.
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it didn't really make much sense to be fair
it kinda does, but this is lowkey getting us nowhere and so we all should kiss
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Yes it does. Because the CM2 then relies on additional assumptions and headcanons that have no founding holistically. Because again, it means that Paths affect the universe in a twofold manner, which is not parsimonious at all when it can be explained by one function.
Read the above message.
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no genuinely what are you saying? what is the other way they are affecting it
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Alright, I guess we have to start a littler simpler: Do you believe the Path’s Energy affects the Universe?
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In what way? Path energy is just imaginary energy made a more specific concept
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Do you believe Paths affect the Universe through their energy
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again, in what way? they aren't radiating energy randomly all over the place. just explain your reasoning and idea
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