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Lookism Discussion Thread

Has anyone ever tried compiling the best feats of every spinoff? I feel like after that one calc debunk thread, we lost about 60% of the spinoff calcs.

I recently reread some early fights in Juvenile Law and these guys are easily putting hands on armed fighters, we might be able to get much better speed calcs for PTJVerse mid-tiers through this. (Thanks to Lil Eli stating that Base Sean is weaker than Olly)

In Chapter 20 we see the little kid perception blitzing Armed Bodyguards while they were staring at him
Eugene Perception Blitz
And in that same chapter, Hyeonho intercepts a gun after the trigger is pressed and before the bullet could come out (coming in from multiple meters off to the side)
Hyeonho Intercepting
Then in Chapter 4, Shion comes from off-screen (she couldn't see him while aiming at his Mom) to block Rachel's bullet with a frying pan
Sean Blocking

Lowkey would be nice if anybody tried their hand at calc'ing these
I agree with CatLover, they seem more like aim dodging, but Eugene's feat could really be used if it's not a considerable accumulation of calculations, since they still seem to be having trouble dealing with those who are supposed to be blitzing.
 
I agree with CatLover, they seem more like aim dodging, but Eugene's feat could really be used if it's not a considerable accumulation of calculations, since they still seem to be having trouble dealing with those who are supposed to be blitzing.
Didn't even realize there was that feat. Yeah, Eugene feat will be viable
 
Shouldn't this be multiplied by 4 because we literally see Akira moving like more than 1 time YET he said he can't see ANYTHING. Maybe i should recalc it.
Should I? I don't really know how blitz feats work like that, but if it can be improved, then it would be useful. Besides, this feat is very well supported since we have several characters who can keep up with vehicles (Lil Daniel alone was going to overtake a motorcycle at full speed).
 
Should I? I don't really know how blitz feats work like that, but if it can be improved, then it would be useful. Besides, this feat is very well supported since we have several characters who can keep up with vehicles (Lil Daniel alone was going to overtake a motorcycle at full speed).
I mean, sure. If he said he couldn't see ANYTHING that means throughout the numerous times Akira moved, he couldn't perceive any of his movements. That mean you can just throw the distance he moved in athletic human perception timeframe.
 
I mean, sure. If he said he couldn't see ANYTHING that means throughout the numerous times Akira moved, he couldn't perceive any of his movements. That mean you can just throw the distance he moved in athletic human perception timeframe.
Well, you're free to recalculate it. Perhaps you could use the upper limit of the athletic level to calculate it, considering that Akira's statements put him almost in the superhuman range for being among athletes.
 
Well, you're free to recalculate it. Perhaps you could use the upper limit of the athletic level to calculate it, considering that Akira's statements put him almost in the superhuman range for being among athletes.
Alright then, I'll do it probably after i finish with the CGD. Anyways, it's safer to just use athletic human perception time which is 0.1 since that unnamed guy is well...an unnamed NPC and he's the one getting blitzed.
 
Has anyone ever tried compiling the best feats of every spinoff? I feel like after that one calc debunk thread, we lost about 60% of the spinoff calcs.
Actually, yeah, because there's another feat like this in DM Rachel was shooting someone else, but someone shot her from the darkness Yeah, he did yell something out of mockery which could have given her a heads up, but her hair blocked her vision almost entirely when the bullet came and she couldn't have seen her shooter either, that's why I think it shouldn't be count as aim dodging

Not related to DM, but during the initial chapters of MK, Hansu was dodging bullets. I thought it was aim dodging, but Gukcheol was able to tag him with a knife despite getting overwhelmed, giving him a cut on his face. Also, to add, Gukcheol was able to perceive the 1440° kick, which is like Hansu's strongest attack. That's why I'm confused, because it looks like aim dodging, but then again Gukcheol being able to tag and perceive base Hansu iffs up.
 
Actually, yeah, because there's another feat like this in DM Rachel was shooting someone else, but someone shot her from the darkness Yeah, he did yell something out of mockery which could have given her a heads up, but her hair blocked her vision almost entirely when the bullet came and she couldn't have seen her shooter either, that's why I think it shouldn't be count as aim dodging

Not related to DM, but during the initial chapters of MK, Hansu was dodging bullets. I thought it was aim dodging, but Gukcheol was able to tag him with a knife despite getting overwhelmed, giving him a cut on his face. Also, to add, Gukcheol was able to perceive the 1440° kick, which is like Hansu's strongest attack. That's why I'm confused, because it looks like aim dodging, but then again Gukcheol being able to tag and perceive base Hansu iffs up.
You'll prob need to show more panels for the Rachel one. Like you said, she couldn't see the bullet, so how did she know how to dodge it? Did she even dodge it or did the guy just miss? (I can't see her moving in the panels).

As for the Hansu one, it's prob still counted as aim-dodging because he's doing acrobatic flips and jumping around while the shooter is exhausted and injured. Plus there's a sizeable distance between them, which someone would argue helps Hansu dodge bullets, whereas there'd be less distance for a knife slash.
 
Should I? I don't really know how blitz feats work like that, but if it can be improved, then it would be useful. Besides, this feat is very well supported since we have several characters who can keep up with vehicles (Lil Daniel alone was going to overtake a motorcycle at full speed).
Apparently i DID made the calc, here.

But haven't made the CGD🥀. NP tho, I've already made all the required pixel scans, all i need is to js put those into a doc.
 
Apparently i DID made the calc, here.

But haven't made the CGD🥀. NP tho, I've already made all the required pixel scans, all i need is to js put those into a doc.
Shouldn't the calculation be evaluated before being used for CGM? Anyway, very good work.
 
Shouldn't the calculation be evaluated before being used for CGM? Anyway, very good work.
Which calculation ur talking about? Like my version of the Kitae and James feat? If that's what u talking about then it'll be brought up either ways in the CGD for CGMs to potentially see so there's no point waiting for another century for it to get evaled.
 
Apparently i DID made the calc, here.

But haven't made the CGD🥀. NP tho, I've already made all the required pixel scans, all i need is to js put those into a doc.
Sheesh, that's high. Staff might find it questionable though

As for the CGD, please @ me once it's started, I've got some input to give on the crater measurements
 
Which calculation ur talking about? Like my version of the Kitae and James feat? If that's what u talking about then it'll be brought up either ways in the CGD for CGMs to potentially see so there's no point waiting for another century for it to get evaled.
I was referring to Akira's calculation, but I suppose it's also valid to refer to the church's.
 
Sheesh, that's high. Staff might find it questionable though
What should've been questionable is the amount of downplay that had been unecessarily done to that calc by assuming he only covered the distance from the screen to that fighter just once while he moved around ALOT more and he couldn't see ANY of his movements so i don't see any problems with it, infact even that didn't took consideration for all his movements.
As for the CGD, please @ me once it's started
Sure. I'll try to finish it by today if I'm free.
 
Shouldn't this be multiplied by 4 because we literally see Akira moving like more than 1 time YET he said he can't see ANYTHING. Maybe i should recalc it.
in hunt for workers . complete fodders perception blitzed him (self admitted) isnt that calcable? could be a good upscale for low tier characters. he should have subsonic reaction speed by just being subsonic himself
 
in hunt for workers . complete fodders perception blitzed him (self admitted) isnt that calcable? could be a good upscale for low tier characters. he should have subsonic reaction speed by just being subsonic himself
Huh? How're u still here? Anyways. Low tiers would deffinately scale to this feat easily, blitzing is around a 1.2x multiplier so low tiers would scale to 725 m/s.
 
Huh? How're u still here? Anyways. Low tiers would deffinately scale to this feat easily, blitzing is around a 1.2x multiplier so low tiers would scale to 725 m/s.
Just to correct, you can only do a 1.2x upscale if it’s within the next baseline level.
 
Huh? How're u still here? Anyways. Low tiers would deffinately scale to this feat easily, blitzing is around a 1.2x multiplier so low tiers would scale to 725 m/s.
He was utilising my account which he said he'd stop using but I didn't see he logged on until I saw this notifications. I had to change the password because little bro almost got me banned over lookism 😭💔
 
He was utilising my account which he said he'd stop using but I didn't see he logged on until I saw this notifications. I had to change the password because little bro almost got me banned over lookism 😭💔
He? Wdym by 'he'? Are u even the real Saint?
 
He is Saint. If you check Rule violation thread Saint explained the account belonged to me and he'd permanently log off which mods/admin accepted then he told me he wouldn't log on anymore.
Yeah, I saw the RVR thread, saw him comment here and the crt and had a feeling it wasn’t the real you but didn’t want to say anything….
 
Small tangent, while I have never considered myself particularly media literate, something I pride myself on is my abbility to adapt and grow the more media I consume, the more passionate I am about something and the more I care about something the more I learn about it, as a result I rapidly become more media literate and gain a better understanding of narrative, visual, calc, logical scaling (and also general media, writing, composing, art, movie etc analysis) to me this abbility is my biggest blessing in life but also sometimes kind of a curse💀

Anyhow that is all to say due to our constant back and fourth over MK I had to reread MK a bunch and I realised to my horror,
Dear God my whole MK chain scale is wrong😭
All of it😭

Past me was exponentially less media literate and his analysis skills sucked so I ended up low balling it by a BIG margin

So now I am gonna have to reread all of Manager Kim, again.. yey...😭

And redo my notes again... yey😭 (remember that big esoteric block of chain scaling text? Yeah, that💀)

What's worse is that it's not even the proper vswiki standard approved chain scale that I've been procrastinating working on (tbh its a good thing I didn't start so I have more time to become more media literate and take better notes)
 
This calculation has just been approved. It's a shame the chain scaling is so limited, since it mostly only affects Hit Viral and MK, but at least it gives some LS level to secondary characters.
By chance, I came across an interesting feat listed on Johan's wiki that doesn't seem to have been approved yet.
Johan cleanly ripping a steel door off faster than Daniel can even tell what he did
The statement might not be enough to suffice Johan doing it faster than Daniel could perceive, though it's definitely good for lifting strength in Low Tiers (since this is from Chapter 150, which is before even the God Dog arc, wherein Johan's hardware was called out for being terrible)
You could prob calculate the size of the door with Johan's hand

Seth bending a metal bar with his thumb (If anyone can find a study that calculates the strength of a hand in proportion to a thumb it might work? Johan overpowers in a thumb battle after this) Chapter 261 btw

I ended up rereading through Hostel while looking for Seth's feats and got emotional from how much of a masterpiece the Hostel Tragedy was
 
By chance, I came across an interesting feat listed on Johan's wiki that doesn't seem to have been approved yet.
Johan cleanly ripping a steel door off faster than Daniel can even tell what he did
The statement might not be enough to suffice Johan doing it faster than Daniel could perceive, though it's definitely good for lifting strength in Low Tiers (since this is from Chapter 150, which is before even the God Dog arc, wherein Johan's hardware was called out for being terrible)
You could prob calculate the size of the door with Johan's hand

Seth bending a metal bar with his thumb (If anyone can find a study that calculates the strength of a hand in proportion to a thumb it might work? Johan overpowers in a thumb battle after this) Chapter 261 btw
I don't think the first feat is about speed, but it's definitely useful for LS. I actually saw it more as SS than LS, but if we can say it ripped the lock off, then maybe it's a Class 1 or Class 5.

Also, I don't know how high the other feat is, but at the very least it's a pretty high Peak Human.
 
Out of topic ik, but still y'all can see if anyone is interested.

 
BTW, Rainangel's Doom feat got accepted. Will that fall like Gun's Class K? or will it upgrade the LS of God tiers to Class M, since Doom should have physical stats of LL Tom (Jincheol never saw FP Tom)
 
Out of topic ik, but still y'all can see if anyone is interested.

I don't have much to add, it's mostly calculations.
The only thing I think should be reviewed are the numerous Class M and K that were calculated. They seem a bit questionable to me, although I can't say much more; some of them are valid.
 
BTW, Rainangel's Doom feat got accepted. Will that fall like Gun's Class K? or will it upgrade the LS of God tiers to Class M, since Doom should have physical stats of LL Tom (Jincheol never saw FP Tom)
I really only scaled the Top Gods (Tom Lee, Gun, Goo, James, Kitae, Gapryong, and Shingen). Perhaps if we're being precise, we could say the military trio, since Hansu Seong can keep up with Doom individually (even while injured), Jincheol could also fight him, and obviously Samdak or Sophia surpass Doom by a considerable margin.
 
Small tangent, while I have never considered myself particularly media literate, something I pride myself on is my abbility to adapt and grow the more media I consume, the more passionate I am about something and the more I care about something the more I learn about it, as a result I rapidly become more media literate and gain a better understanding of narrative, visual, calc, logical scaling (and also general media, writing, composing, art, movie etc analysis) to me this abbility is my biggest blessing in life but also sometimes kind of a curse💀

Anyhow that is all to say due to our constant back and fourth over MK I had to reread MK a bunch and I realised to my horror,
Dear God my whole MK chain scale is wrong😭
All of it😭

Past me was exponentially less media literate and his analysis skills sucked so I ended up low balling it by a BIG margin

So now I am gonna have to reread all of Manager Kim, again.. yey...😭

And redo my notes again... yey😭 (remember that big esoteric block of chain scaling text? Yeah, that💀)

What's worse is that it's not even the proper vswiki standard approved chain scale that I've been procrastinating working on (tbh its a good thing I didn't start so I have more time to become more media literate and take better notes)
To be fair, it would be best to address chain scaling in parts rather than trying to connect everything immediately, especially given how extensive and ambiguous it can be.
 
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