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Welt Yang Vs Infinite Zamasu (Honkai: Star Rail Vs Dragon Ball)

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Welt Yang Vs Zamasu

Post-Sea of Quanta Welt will be used
Attack Potency: 30.453235 ZettaFOE, Varies up to Multiverse level+ with Star of Eden, Varies up to High Complex Multiverse level Environmental Damage with Singularity Rebuild
Durability: 30.453235 ZettaFOE, higher with Imaginary Barriers
Lifting Strength: Class P

Infinite Zamasu will be used
Attack Potency: Complex Multiverse level
Durability: Complex Multiverse level
Lifting Strength: Class G

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Speed is equalized
Fight takes place in Universe 7

Fight OST:
 
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Does it take time to start up/build up, etc?

Also Star of Eden profile looks outdated with its rating. Shouldn't it be 2-A instead of Low 1-C

Though does Star of Eden still have 12-D range?
 
Apotheosis69 said:
Does it take time to start up/build up, etc?

Also Star of Eden profile looks outdated with its rating. Shouldn't it be 2-A instead of Low 1-C

Though does Star of Eden still have 12-D range?
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suprisingly it isnt outdated its just a bit incorrectish

its low 1-C from bronya's feat but welt cant replicate that hes only 2-A which i guess is why they put varies up to low 1-C but idk people might take it out of context like nether did and upgrade zephyro
 
I guess it just depends on who gets it the first shot.

Can Walt survive or dodge Zamasu's insane Danmaku Ki blasts tho. Especially since it comes from ALL directions
 
Apotheosis69 said:
Is it 6-D protection?
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After the events of the fight against Ryusuke, his Imaginary Barrier capabilities are up to 11D now (Welt 5 minutes prior got his barriers obliterated by False R>F 5D attacks due to not understanding and perceiving Higher Dimensions)

 
Weird, only says higher in Durability in his page. But I thought none of that stuff can be used for AP/Dura, only Range
 
Actually can zamasu even kill welt? He has type 8 immortality from the herrscher core which is ae1 cm3 can zamasu interact with cm3
 
Infinite Zamasu's size: Tier 10. His lifting strength: Class G.

Hahahahaha. All I can do is laugh. His size is Tier 10, yet his lifting strength is only Class G. Where is the logic? Where is the reasoning? Where is the common sense?

I challenge anyone to explain the logic behind this.
 
Azertyhuuh said:
Infinite Zamasu's size: Tier 10. His lifting strength: Class G.

Hahahahaha. All I can do is laugh. His size is Tier 10, yet his lifting strength is only Class G. Where is the logic? Where is the reasoning? Where is the common sense?

I challenge anyone to explain the logic behind this.
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hes human level in size? how is this even a matchup welt solos
 
Azertyhuuh said:
Infinite Zamasu's size: Tier 10. His lifting strength: Class G.

Hahahahaha. All I can do is laugh. His size is Tier 10, yet his lifting strength is only Class G. Where is the logic? Where is the reasoning? Where is the common sense?

I challenge anyone to explain the logic behind this.
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He just merges with the universe and I guess doesn't automatically gain its power.
Goku says if he could go SSJB he might be able to do something against Infinite Zamasu. The dude doesn't get more Ki or power up.

Anyway, here's the actual logic.
He merges with the universe and from there we don't have an actual equivalent or LS feat for him. Because of that he can't be put any higher than Class G..
 
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PlungingThroughTime said:
He just merges with the universe and I guess doesn't automatically gain its power.
Goku says if he could go SSJB he might be able to do something against Infinite Zamasu. The dude doesn't get more Ki or power up.

Anyway, here's the actual logic.
He merges with the universe and from there we don't have an actual equivalent or LS feat for him. Because of that he can't be put any higher than Class G.
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Could you provide a source for that claim?

What does Goku potentially being able to do something have to do with lifting strength? Do you think that if one character has greater lifting strength than another, that automatically makes them stronger overall?

I don't think you've forgotten about speed, attack potency, striking strength, abilities, durability, and the many other factors that determine a character's overall power.

There is no logic here. He has Large Size 10, which by itself qualifies him for Immeasurable Lifting Strength. That's all there is to it. His size alone is sufficient to qualify for that level of lifting strength.
 
Azertyhuuh said:
Could you provide a source for that claim?

What does Goku potentially being able to do something have to do with lifting strength? Do you think that if one character has greater lifting strength than another, that automatically makes them stronger overall?
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How do you manage to completely misunderstand what I said? I'm saying Infinite Zamasu isn't any stronger than the Zamasu Vegito fought, or the one Trunks fought with the Spirit Sword thing. I'm saying this because Goku said he might be able to do something if he had a senzu.
Azertyhuuh said:
There is no logic here. He has Large Size 10, which by itself qualifies him for Immeasurable Lifting Strength. That's all there is to it. His size alone is sufficient to qualify for that level of lifting strength.
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TBF I don't know about the standards of the wiki on size stuff but if that's true then I'd be surprised DB fans are sleeping on it.
 
PlungingThroughTime said:
How do you manage to completely misunderstand what I said? I'm saying Infinite Zamasu isn't any stronger than the Zamasu Vegito fought, or the one Trunks fought with the Spirit Sword thing. I'm saying this because Goku said he might be able to do something if he had a senzu.

TBF I don't know about the standards of the wiki on size stuff but if that's true then I'd be surprised DB fans are sleeping on it.
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What? That's completely incorrect.

Infinite Zamasu is far stronger than the Zamasu Vegito fought.

The Zamasu that Vegito fought: 2-C.
Infinite Zamasu: 1-C, with Higher-Dimensional Existence (6-D), Abstract Existence Type 1, and Large Size 10.

I think you've misunderstood the situation. It's true that Goku said he might have been able to do something if he had access to Super Saiyan Blue, but that does not mean he would have defeated Infinite Zamasu or anything close to that.

The regular Fused Zamasu that Vegito fought is already significantly stronger than Super Saiyan Blue Goku. Infinite Zamasu is, in turn, vastly stronger than the Zamasu Vegito fought.

Super Saiyan Blue Goku wouldn't even be able to do anything against the Zamasu that Vegito himself fought while using Super Saiyan Blue.

I think the profile already makes this clear, so there's no need to argue further.

What happened here is simply a mistake. The only thing that needs to be changed is his Lifting Strength to Immeasurable Lifting Strength, and that's it.
 
looking at the large size page nothing there says type 8 grants immeasurable LS
 
Azertyhuuh said:
What? That's completely incorrect.

Infinite Zamasu is far stronger than the Zamasu Vegito fought.

The Zamasu that Vegito fought: 2-C.
Infinite Zamasu: 1-C, with Higher-Dimensional Existence (6-D), Abstract Existence Type 1, and Large Size 10.

I think you've misunderstood the situation. It's true that Goku said he might have been able to do something if he had access to Super Saiyan Blue, but that does not mean he would have defeated Infinite Zamasu or anything close to that.

The regular Fused Zamasu that Vegito fought is already significantly stronger than Super Saiyan Blue Goku. Infinite Zamasu is, in turn, vastly stronger than the Zamasu Vegito fought.

Super Saiyan Blue Goku wouldn't even be able to do anything against the Zamasu that Vegito himself fought while using Super Saiyan Blue.

I think the profile already makes this clear, so there's no need to argue further.

What happened here is simply a mistake. The only thing that needs to be changed is his Lifting Strength to Immeasurable Lifting Strength, and that's it.
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Doesn't it say eventually to 1c, he doesn't even get there when Goku talks about fighting him if he had a senzu, idk if he even gets there by time he's erased
 
Mbpoops said:
looking at the large size page nothing there says type 8 grants immeasurable LS
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Infinite Zamasu has Large Size Type 10, as clearly stated in his profile.

This size should qualify him for Immeasurable Lifting Strength.
It is impossible for a character whose size surpasses space-time and even timelines to have mountain-level lifting strength or anything lower than that.

Imagine a character whose size exceeds universes and time itself, yet cannot lift a planet. How does that even make sense? That is simply impossible.

It’s like trying to convince me that a human cannot lift a coin. I don’t know if you understand that point.

And on top of that, are you also claiming that planet-level lifting strength would be enough to crush a being the size of a universe or multiple universes?
 
KingOfDarknessBelow said:
Doesn't it say eventually to 1c, he doesn't even get there when Goku talks about fighting him if he had a senzu, idk if he even gets there by time he's erased
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We are currently talking about him at his final state, i.e., after reaching 1-C, as clearly stated in his last key. This matchup is using his end key, which is 1-C.
 
Azertyhuuh said:
Infinite Zamasu has Large Size Type 10, as clearly stated in his profile.

This size should qualify him for Immeasurable Lifting Strength.
It is impossible for a character whose size surpasses space-time and even timelines to have mountain-level lifting strength or anything lower than that.

Imagine a character whose size exceeds universes and time itself, yet cannot lift a planet. How does that even make sense? That is simply impossible.

It’s like trying to convince me that a human cannot lift a coin. I don’t know if you understand that point.

And on top of that, are you also claiming that planet-level lifting strength would be enough to crush a being the size of a universe or multiple universes?
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according to the large size page this doesnt automatically grant you any LS you can make a qna about it or ask staff why this is but as the profile says his LS is class G as of right now
 
Mbpoops said:
type 10*
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Look at Super Shenron, for example. In the justification for his lifting strength, since his size is that of galaxies, his lifting strength is of course considered galaxy-level, and this is based purely on size.

The same thing applies here in the case of Infinite Zamasu, who is even larger than Super Shenron in terms of size itself.

Super Shenron has Large Size Type 7, while Infinite Zamasu has Large Size Type 10, which could grant him Immeasurable Lifting Strength.

Lifting Strength: At least Multi-Galactic (His teeth alone dwarf galaxies in size[16])

Large Size (Varies - At least Type 5, up to 7; Can freely choose[6] his own size when he appears.[16] Even Super Dragon Balls constitute him is already as large as planet,[11] his biggest known size dwarfs multiple galaxies[16])
 
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