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Low Tier Marvel Comics Speed Revisions

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I wasn't even referring to the SW CRT but now that you mention it, that case is a good example of you rejecting calcs and feats based of glorified vibes, something which you tend to do quite frequently.
Actually hilarious post.
Can we stop arguing and get back to the point?
So right now I guess we can go through and see which characters aren't getting Unknown ratings ig, so for that check Variable speed ratings on profiles.

Beyond that we are ONLY AND ONLY removing Reaction/Combat speed for now. Everything else stays.

As said any revision that has an argument for "Yeah these are consistent speed feats" can basically instantly re-add them after this thread is concluded. As all possible characters are Unknown, it'll probably be easier to propose solo ratings on focused threads (this thread is 10 pages long let's not extend it further)

We don't have any staff approval so right now it's just in air. @Antvasima contact staff ig
 
Stop yelling at each other like that, it's only making things more difficult to address.

Are you high?
I wish I was, it would turn these threads actually fun. Or give a really bad trip. Either way, it would be something to feel.

Tell me to my face right now that Rex and Suig read JACK for this revision and didn't just copy paste pre-existing calc blogs (Which I KNOW SAID CALCERS GOT from RESPECT THREADS) or linked feats on files.
I'm aware that Suig is familiar with a few characters listed, I'm not familiar with Rex's reading. However, to question if they read or not it is weird, especially with your last comment about personal attack. One thing that should've happen is story context being given at the calc blog, which I said two time here that it should become standard procedure, if it already is, then enforcing it is required.

I'd rather the files stay honestly ass to let someone else fix them later down the line, than perpetuate dishonest ratings.
By your logic, eventually all is ass. So nothing matters. This thread, being accepted or not, will not matter. Dishonest ratings? What's dishonest here?

What the ** is the scaling here? Literally nobody scales. This is the proposal. I just also know for a fact that nobody researched anything for this. I'm not replacing one ***** arbitrary scaling chain with another ******* arbitrary scaling chain where characters randomly are assumed to outspeed another class of characters when they have zero reasoning to, but the system still works on scaling characters that barely interact together.
It's really difficult to even understand your point here. Nobody scales...? What does that even mean? OP has given a list of characters being scaled already, if that's accurate or not, it's up to discussion (something that is not truly happening). Your last point is funny because the said class being outspeed are regularly being treated as people that can easily dodge bullets and move around them with acrobatic skill. The other class that is outspeeding is constantly dodging lasers, fighting in space against aliens and gods. I don't think there's a need to put two and two together.

The proposal isn't "Everyone's Unknown", the proposal is "Unless you can confidently claim a character is one speed consistently I am not going to let you slap shit onto a file to repeat this fuckery 6 months later when another genius comes up with an idea to do a speed thread."
It's difficult to even know what you seek because of how you talk here, Impress. Mostly you say "it's dumb take lol," while that can true or not, it does not help your case or what you think is correct. You gotta help us too. "Unless you can confidently claim a character is one speed conssitently," the way this is achived is through calculations, with more being equal to greater consistency. Is that not what OP did?

Also Variable characters are basically immune to it.
Yeah.

The problem with this ******* wiki is that we have ass files, people KNOW we have ass files, people CONSTANTLY COMPLAIN we have ass files, but if anyone says "Hey this is an ass file" onto the file itself, people lose their shit.
The problem is that any change is being instantly rejected. Help is being denied, even if misguided in someone's eyes. We got ass files? That's cool, that means that changes need to be made, be deleting the profiles (which some are deletion worthy. i'm also not stating that we should delete all marvel profiles), collection of calculated feats (which we have in OP. I've also talked to others off-site constantly to bring even more here to have them updated and re-evaluated), or through complete profile revamps (which Confluctor has blessed us with three times. I also hope that Confluctor's profiles become the new standard to our profiles).

Like for all the shit you guys are giving here, you do realize literally everyone presently on this thread was either not on the wiki or didn't approve whatever ******* speed scaling chain you're complaining about, right? And the geniuses who approved it also approved the 4 different ratings for Thor on the notion he's unscaleable and should scale to his own feats but not really?
The staff problem I'm... Aware of. It's true, we lack staff that are knowledgeable on Marvel. I'm going to be honest, in that area, I don't know how to fix it. I'm willing to help staff if they need a second opinion or more eyes, but that's the best any blue name can do.

But go off on trying to null Electro's 9-B+ I guess. Real pressing issues. Ignore the actual issue that the verse got straight up griefed and vandalized for an year under the eyes of ignorant staff checkers who even right now go "Seems fine" on threads that immolate whenever you research anything.
Cite names so we don't call them into threads then?

It seems that most of the current Marvel problems we got comes from the lack of knowledgeable marvel comics staff. Maybe addressing that can snowball into profiles being fixed.
 
Tell me to my face right now that Rex and Suig read JACK for this revision and didn't just copy paste pre-existing calc blogs (Which I KNOW SAID CALCERS GOT from RESPECT THREADS) or linked feats on files.
No, I read the comics with the feats I mentioned to Rex, I was the one who revised Carol Danvers page so yes one or 2 of the calcs are based on feats that were on her profile, because I added them there, I think maybe 3 of the calcs already existed which were Rogue's feat, Namor's meteor calc which is a recalc from an already existing one and Namor and Mar-vell flying feat. I read the respect threads and I guarantee that a lot of what's on Carol's profile and the calcs in this thread were not even there.
 
It's difficult to even know what you seek because of how you talk here, Impress.
Because every time I post in this thread either Suig begins to relentlessly strawman me, you and M3X keep sidetracking to an entirely different revision altogether to attack my proposals on some scaling chain I didn't even ******* approve, nobody is checking shit and there is not a single staff member. Hell Eseseso straight up attacked me for shit I don't even register why. And all of this is when I am juggling 3 different threads alongside IRL shit because there is no active staff yet everyone keeps ******* pinging me relentlessly whenever a thread is posted.

Like, if I'm getting exasperated on this thread it's not exactly a thing that's happening out of nowhere lol.

But fine, I'll try to properly frame my points later.
 
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After careful consideration, I have decided to request for this thread's temporary closure. It is clear that M3X 2.0's thread regarding Marvel and DC cross scaling will ultimately determine how Marvel speed ratings will be indexed going forward. I recommend that any revisions regarding mainline Marvel and DC Comics be paused until that is sorted out, or else any conclusion reached risks being completely upended.
 
After careful consideration, I have decided to request for this thread's temporary closure. It is clear that M3X 2.0's thread regarding Marvel and DC cross scaling will ultimately determine how Marvel speed ratings will be indexed going forward. I recommend that any revisions regarding mainline Marvel and DC Comics be paused until that is sorted out, or else any conclusion reached risks being completely upended.
I wouldn't mind if we let that thread conclude first.

@The_Impress Regardless I'd really appreciate if you could calm down. There are more respectful ways to disagree with people than accusing them of using drugs.
 
My idea would just be something along the lines of having a 'typical' rating and a 'peak' rating.
We can't always just discard the higher feats, but I do think we could better acknowledge the inconsistency in our ratings.
That is my current ideal version as well. 🙏
 
you and M3X keep sidetracking to an entirely different revision altogether to attack my proposals on some scaling chain I didn't even ******* approve
That’s a very bold accusation to make. I have no idea about what your proposals are, when you created them or anything.

You’re not as important as you think you are to play this card here.
 
Anyway, can somebody summarise what our staff currently needs to evaluate here? 🙏
 
You’re not as important as you think you are to play this card here.
Well, Impress usually has very good common sense regarding Marvel Comics, but also has problems with controlling her temper. 🙏
 
Anyway, can somebody summarise what our staff currently needs to evaluate here? 🙏
Nothing, OP has asked this thread to be temporary closed until M3X's thread is finalized.

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After careful consideration, I have decided to request for this thread's temporary closure. It is clear that M3X 2.0's thread regarding Marvel and DC cross scaling will ultimately determine how Marvel speed ratings will be indexed going forward. I recommend that any revisions regarding mainline Marvel and DC Comics be paused until that is sorted out, or else any conclusion reached risks being completely upended.
 
Okay. I will do so then. Thank you to everybody who helped out here. 🙏
 
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