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Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

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literally me rn:
 
but other games seem to suggest the opposite.
I mean tbf, other games don't erase the feat performed. If Sonic Chaos is a legit feat then yk
Yeah, by running
Again that's a possibility, but it's more likely he ran until he found something that could help him get out. Now that being said, I would like it more if Sonic literally did exit the Arabian Nights book by running
 
Again that's a possibility, but it's more likely he ran until he found something that could help him get out. Now that being said, I would like it more if Sonic literally did exit the Arabian Nights book by running
What could he find that could help him get out of there?
The only way to get out was using Shayrah or the carpet...and we know that he didn't do that.
And it is extremely weird that the story never shows us that there is another way to get out of there.
 
immeasurable speed base sonic? 👀
Inaccessible Speed Sonic ong frfr
"Immeasurable" "irrelevant" "infinite" "Inaccessible" screw all that let's make a new speed tier called "Sonicmeasurable Speed" and it's beyond all other speed tiers

Don't talk about being the strongest in fiction unless you got Gokuversal AP with Sonicmeasurable Speed.
 
I don't know, made up some new cool feat, like.
"He is moving faster than what i can calculate, i can't calculate that fast"
And it is a Eggman supercomputer or something
 
I am like 99.99% sure I'm suffering brainrot but possible MFTL+ feat?
Semi-continuation, hopefully offering more support for a MFTL+ feat for Void /Lumina/Illumina, and Sonic and co. if you scale them outside this site

Lumina flying past innumerable dream worlds to reach the Temple of Light is accepted as a MFTL+ feat, I mostly agreed with it. But you also have the other parts of the Precioustone outright flying away to the Temple of Light, out of the dream world they were in. Void, as we know, is part of the Precioustone, with him flying to the Temple of Light as well.

We also know Void is a fragment of everyone's dreams, the negative emotions that let them be dreams, being a part of the Precioustone. Riot Train is likely MFTL+ as seen in my previous message. But it also created the Fire Bird, who seemingly encompasses the dreams of those who cross the sea of stars. That being said, it could just refer to their desire of freedom. Regardless, it's supporting.
 
I was thinking something and it sounds non sensical no matter how much I think about it.
White space is able to be restored (or the places erased on it) by Sonic moving fast.
Now in Shadow Generations, it is said that Time will eventually heal itself if you just pass through it, which indicates that time is the one who can readjust itself.
Now this will kill the first one...if it wasn't for the fact that also makes no sense since Gerald isn't seeing Sonic do anything (he doesn't even know him).
It also doesn't even make sense considering to that the Chaos Emeralds are restored by Sonic and those things don't belong in White Space.
 
Now in Shadow Generations, it is said that Time will eventually heal itself if you just pass through it, which indicates that time is the one who can readjust itself.
Gerald didn't say that, though. It's true he did say that "So long as the pivotal moments in history are restored, the rest will find equilibrium." But that's the thing, pivotal moments need to be restored for time to start healing itself, which is exactly what the Sonics and Shadow were doing anyways, restoring space-time in pivotal moments in history. It's just that time can heal itself after the Sonics and Shadow got it started. Tails, the guy who said Sonic was restoring space-time with his speed, backed this up.

Like, it's "Sonic's speed is restoring space-time" not "time heals itself when Sonic reexperiences the past"
 
I was thinking something and it sounds non sensical no matter how much I think about it.
White space is able to be restored (or the places erased on it) by Sonic moving fast.
Now in Shadow Generations, it is said that Time will eventually heal itself if you just pass through it, which indicates that time is the one who can readjust itself.
Time can't do it alone is the thing. It needs to be restored enough in the first place for it to begin.

It's essentially like a shattered mirror; for it to fix itself, you need to fix 85% of it first. Time can't bring itself back from nonexistence.
Now this will kill the first one...if it wasn't for the fact that also makes no sense since Gerald isn't seeing Sonic do anything (he doesn't even know him).
It seems to be implied that Shadow is able to restore space-time with his speed as well, as the levels he goes through undergo the same restoration effect that Classic and Modern's levels go through.

E-123 Omega is somehow aware of Classic and Modern restoring space-time lol.
 
I was thinking something and it sounds non sensical no matter how much I think about it.
White space is able to be restored (or the places erased on it) by Sonic moving fast.
Now in Shadow Generations, it is said that Time will eventually heal itself if you just pass through it, which indicates that time is the one who can readjust itself.
Now this will kill the first one...if it wasn't for the fact that also makes no sense since Gerald isn't seeing Sonic do anything (he doesn't even know him).
It also doesn't even make sense considering to that the Chaos Emeralds are restored by Sonic and those things don't belong in White Space.
These statements aren't contradictory

Contradictions would be if X, Y won't happen and if Y, X can't happen, but we assume both X and Y happen

Time can heal itself, Sonic running can heal time, and the Chaos Emeralds also can do it.

If they stated "Only time can heal itself" and the others happened, that would be a contradiction. But they didn't say it, did they?
 
I was thinking something and it sounds non sensical no matter how much I think about it.
White space is able to be restored (or the places erased on it) by Sonic moving fast.
Now in Shadow Generations, it is said that Time will eventually heal itself if you just pass through it, which indicates that time is the one who can readjust itself.
Now this will kill the first one...if it wasn't for the fact that also makes no sense since Gerald isn't seeing Sonic do anything (he doesn't even know him).
It also doesn't even make sense considering to that the Chaos Emeralds are restored by Sonic and those things don't belong in White Space.
Gerald talks about how the future doesn't change as time heals itself to how it should be, he NEVER talks about it restoring itself back into existence

seriously, where did that perception even came from? everytime i have to correct it it feels like i am ignored for some reason
 
Gerald didn't say that, though. It's true he did say that "So long as the pivotal moments in history are restored, the rest will find equilibrium." But that's the thing, pivotal moments need to be restored for time to start healing itself, which is exactly what the Sonics and Shadow were doing anyways, restoring space-time in pivotal moments in history. It's just that time can heal itself after the Sonics and Shadow got it started. Tails, the guy who said Sonic was restoring space-time with his speed, backed this up.

Like, it's "Sonic's speed is restoring space-time" not "time heals itself when Sonic reexperiences the past"
Time can't do it alone is the thing. It needs to be restored enough in the first place for it to begin.

It's essentially like a shattered mirror; for it to fix itself, you need to fix 85% of it first. Time can't bring itself back from nonexistence.

It seems to be implied that Shadow is able to restore space-time with his speed as well, as the levels he goes through undergo the same restoration effect that Classic and Modern's levels go through.

E-123 Omega is somehow aware of Classic and Modern restoring space-time lol.
He following line is "Do whatever you must to stop Black Doom. Whatever ripples you create will be nothing in comparison to the evil he would bring"

He is not talking about White Space returning to color... he is talking about Shadow experiencing changes from the past and future due to him experiencing other alterations of the timeline and future events, the previous dialogue to that was him literally talking how the damage to the timestream is stirring up past alterations and how Shadow is experiencing future events as much as past events due to the nature of White Space, in fact, he talks about the "ripples" EXACTLY like how he talks about changing the past, same analogy and all, he NEVER talks about the places being restored in White Space being "pivotal" nor does he say they are healing the rest, in fact, why would healing time heal space? Healing only time would do nothing to heal the space that is still erased... people remember, the Time Eater erased all of SPACE-time, not ONLY time

His first lines of dialogues give more context to what he observed to get to the conclusion he did, that being exclusively about time paradoxes and experiencing future events

All this to say... no, time cannot "heal" White Space'd areas(I will use this term... that's right) it simply can make sure events play as they should given pivotal details stay the same... that's ALL GERALD SAYS, he NEVER talks about Shadow or Sonic healing and returning color to White Space at all... i sincerely don't know where people got that from
 
For powerscaling purposes, Item Keeper now protects against Dark Chao's hammerspace hax, and a new Gadget ( Damage Evolution ) is Lucario's aura mechanic from Smash, as in each hit taken buffs your stats in some form.
 
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