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Low 1C - 1C Dc Comics Upgrade Attempt For Heralds (Every Universe Destruction Feat Would Be 2A)

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Bimgus8010 said:
@Qawsedf234

Can this be used to scale this version of brainiac to bleed?

-he exist outside space and time
-his energies in his system is described of that similar to bleed
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The Imgur links are not working (Imgur has not been working well lately) but I assume that they are the scans that state that Brainiac exists “beyond space and time in darkness as thick as blood”. Yes he scales to the Bleed, but only up to the portion of the Bleed just beyond the Speed Force Wall which is 1A.
 
Qawsedf234 said:
Then it's just incorrect. Strings aren't big. Even if its talking about range it's still not a tierble AP showing.
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Shaking these strings resulted in changes of laws of physics of universes


Unless you want to say these universes are weaker than strings?
 
Qawsedf234 said:
Then it's just incorrect. Strings aren't big. Even if its talking about range it's still not a tierble AP showing.
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Then we should revise our DC Comics tiering accordingly. 🙏
 
The Strings mentioned here are not 1D strings from any scientific theory. The reality is most mentions of quantum mechanisms in fiction, especially in comics, really have nothing to do with actual science and is instead using new age spirituality and mysticism combined with quantum mechanics terminology and buzzwords like vibrations. Regardless, I fail to see how Barbatos or the metaphysical strings that he shook have any relevance to this Heralds upgrade thread.
 
PromptedElephant641 said:
The Strings mentioned here are not 1D strings from any scientific theory. The reality is most mentions of quantum mechanisms in fiction, especially in comics, really have nothing to do with actual science and is instead using new age spirituality and mysticism combined with quantum mechanics terminology and buzzwords like vibrations. Regardless, I fail to see how Barbatos or the metaphysical strings that he shook have any relevance to this Heralds upgrade thread.
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No offense but why do you keep coming to me?

Say that x character/realm is 1A, high 1A or low 1C or 2A

Or whatever you think something is

You do not provide sources even though I mentioned many times to you, to provide sources🙏🙏
 
You seem to misinterpret people’s intentions a lot. I was not even addressing you. I was addressing Qawsedf234’s inaccurate downplayed interpretation of Barbatos’ capabilities.
 
PromptedElephant641 said:
You seem to misinterpret people’s intentions a lot. I was not even addressing you. I was addressing Qawsedf234’s inaccurate downplayed interpretation of Barbatos’ capabilities.
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We are talking about strings in which I brought up to qaw

Also......sources for your previous claims?
 
KirbyFan03 said:
But regardless I am interested on who you think scales to the 5D stuff, if any?
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Personally speaking, there is evidence pf quantum waveform collapse in the The Next series, which is a Low 1-C showing. The issue I'm having is that the cosmology fits in with the established Brane-Bulk Bleed Cosmology which is already High 1-C.

Having said that, the universes would still count as part of the multiverse. So it would upgrade a 2-A feat into a Low 1-C one.
 
Bimgus8010 said:
Unless you want to say these universes are weaker than strings?
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String compose the universe and their vibrations are what makes up the fudemental particles that create fudmental forces, which in turn would effect those universes. I can see range, but AP I'm not sure of. Though either way I guess he's effecting a 2-A/Low 1-C space so it would count as an AP showing irrelevant of my issues with it.
 
Qawsedf234 said:
String compose the universe and their vibrations are what makes up the fudemental particles that create fudmental forces, which in turn would effect those universes. I can see range, but AP I'm not sure of. Though either way I guess he's effecting a 2-A/Low 1-C space so it would count as an AP showing irrelevant of my issues with it.
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So can you like do an in a nutshell explanation just so that I am actually hearing what I'm hearing which is the 2A being low 1C?

And are you agreeing with changing 2As to low 1C?
 
Bimgus8010 said:
So can you like do an in a nutshell explanation just so that I am actually hearing what I'm hearing which is the 2A being low 1C?

And are you agreeing with changing 2As to low 1C?
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Basically the Next acan shows that the multiverse operates on Quantum Wave form collapse. Which generates a power set or Aleph-1 number of universes.

This means the totality of universes is Low 1-C with the Greater Orrey of Worlds/Bleed Space being High 1-C due to Bulk cosmology.

Destroying a universe is still Low 2-C. But destroying the multiverse would be Low 1-C.
 
Qawsedf234 said:
Basically the Next acan shows that the multiverse operates on Quantum Wave form collapse. Which generates a power set or Aleph-1 number of universes.

This means the totality of universes is Low 1-C with the Greater Orrey of Worlds/Bleed Space being High 1-C due to Bulk cosmology.

Destroying a universe is still Low 2-C. But destroying the multiverse would be Low 1-C.
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So affecting infinite universes would be low 1C?
 
Qawsedf234 said:
Basically the Next acan shows that the multiverse operates on Quantum Wave form collapse. Which generates a power set or Aleph-1 number of universes.

This means the totality of universes is Low 1-C with the Greater Orrey of Worlds/Bleed Space being High 1-C due to Bulk cosmology.

Destroying a universe is still Low 2-C. But destroying the multiverse would be Low 1-C.
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That is 100% on the spot
 
Qawsedf234 said:
Effecting the multiverse is Low 1-C with the Next scan.
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So what I said was wrong?......I'm confused

What is actually low 1C?

The multiverse as in just the universes

Or multiverse as in with the bleed included but I heard it was 11D?

Was the barbatos feat that I linked low 1C?
 
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KirbyFan03 said:
No just that any feat that references threatening DCs multiverse itself should be low 1-C as the structure of the multiverse supports the thing
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So basically text boxes that have
X character is gonna destroy/change the multiverse should qualify?

Anti, monitor, parallax Hal, god machine brainiac, barbatos, starbreaker did all these right through their actual destruction feat? (there's prolly more characters but I can't remember)
 
Qawsedf234 said:
  • Universe = Low 2-C
  • Multiverse = Uncountable Infinite number of Low 2-C = Low 1-C
  • Bleed Bulk Space = High 1-C
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So basically, the word multiverse is just treated as low 1C?

Therefore any statement or showings of multiverse destruction/affecting would qualify as low 1C?

This would include people like barbatos, anti monitor, parallax Hal, god machine brainiac and starbreaker right?
 
I am fine with Qawsedf234's conclusions in themselves, but this story seems to likely have been an outlier for that time, as it was explicitly stated repeatedly elsewhere that there were only 52 universes in the DC multiverse during the Post-Crisis era. 🙏
 
Never mind. I likely mixed up this revision thread with another one. 🙏
 
Antvasima said:
I trust Qawsedf's sense of judgement. 🙏
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Dunno who edits the cosmology but it would be something along the lines of "Every instance of time produces an infinite number of universes, which inturn produces there own infinite number of variations throughout time. The scaling infinity would generate an uncountable infinite number of universes, which per our FAQ is equivalent to a Low 1-C space".
 
KirbyFan03 said:
That's amazing!

And consistent given its not a once off statement
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There is more interesting stuff that I will get around to posting. Since I have found pretty much every statement of their being infinite (or more) universes in all of DC comics I have come across some pretty niche stuff that likely nobody in the VS space is aware of.
 
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