My Hero Academia General Discussion Thread #18

[1000TonsofFun]

Thats INSANE?? So Shoto can block Weakened All Mights %100??? Is that not absurd for S2

I mean, he did get into UA through recommendations. He’s gonna be pretty OP.

with how his upbringing went he dead ass should've went full villain mode but he didnt

I wouldn’t say he “should’ve”. His arc is way more impactful with him going through all that abuse but choosing to be a hero in spite of it. If you meant that he had every reason to, then yeah I agree.

Shoto's just autistic-coded (more like abused and isolated but I know of people who relate to him) I don't remember Shoto ever acting malicious or too sanctimonious, everything he does until the Sports Festival was to spite Endeavor.

I would say he is quite malicious/uncaring towards his classmates at the beginning of the story

Spoiler: ShionAH don’t read, major spoilers for later seasons

especially with how it parallels Toya and his relationship with the league, ultimately caring more about spiting his father than their own well-being

As a person on the spectrum myself, I think there is a difference between finding it difficult to communicate your feelings and being uncaring. Shoto seems more like the latter imo at this point in the story. Later on I can see him being more autistic coded though.

Shoto was "created" by Endeavor with the sole purpose of surpassing All Might. He's actually not that bad given his upbringing.

This.

 

[Metalballrun]

Uncaring? Perhaps to an extent. He doesn't consciously sympathize with others around him like Deku does due to his singleminded goal, but he cares when his actions affect them directly.
Malicious? Absolutely not (except towards Endeavor). An example of a person with malice would be Bakugo towards Deku.
An uncaring/malicious person wouldn't apologize to Sero for nearly giving him the Nora Fries treatment.

I agree that Shoto doesn't really come off as autistic-coded early on, though considering how he does in the next arc afterwards it should be intentional. Asking Deku if he's All Might's secret love child is a hint.

 

[MANOFGOD7]

how we feel abt inf speed izuku with gearshift :3

It's only theoretical...........

 

[MochOath]

ShionAH when Shoto exists:

 

[ShionAH]

ShionAH when Shoto exists:

I will get back to yall when I like him, because I hated Bakugos guts in S1 but now he is one of the best parts of the show so who knows maybe the same will happen here

There is only one certain character I dont think I will ever like, yall probably can guess it since seems like everyone hates him too

 

[1000TonsofFun]

Uncaring? Perhaps to an extent. He doesn't consciously sympathize with others around him like Deku does due to his singleminded goal, but he cares when his actions affect them directly.
Malicious? Absolutely not (except towards Endeavor). An example of a person with malice would be Bakugo towards Deku.
An uncaring/malicious person wouldn't apologize to Sero for nearly giving him the Nora Fries treatment.

Yeah maybe malicious is a big harsh, but he was uncaring at first. He let the zero point robot that he froze fall on his classmates without a care towards their survival. The Sero moment does show he’s not completely uncaring, but if it’s a choice between his goal or his classmates well-being then he’ll pick his own goal (unlike post-season 2)

I agree that Shoto doesn't really come off as autistic-coded early on, though considering how he does in the next arc afterwards it should be intentional. Asking Deku if he's All Might's secret love child is a hint.

It’s hard to tell whether it’s autism or just due to his lack of a social life. I’m completely fine with a harmless headcanon like autistic Shoto though, I sometimes think Deku might be autistic as well so I can’t really criticise.

 

[ShionAH]

So he isn't even gonna check up on Deku who is badly injured and actively helped him during their fight. Cool, nice nice... what a fun character

 

[Nierre]

as long as im not seeing any bakugoat slander

 

[MrTayman616]

as long as im not seeing any bakugoat slander

He only rised in ranks after Deku became a hero again. So he wasn't being a good hero on purpose and wasn't even trying? Not very heroic tbh

 

[ShionAH]

as long as im not seeing any bakugoat slander

He is at least funny, actually Bakugoat is the one who went to see Deku after he got "saved" by him. Shoto didn't even do that despite Deku being badly injured and actively helping him a lot even though it cost him the tournament.

I mean he has to turn into like superman after this for me to have an ounce of respect for his character

 

[JoeDM021]

I wouldn’t say he “should’ve”. His arc is way more impactful with him going through all that abuse but choosing to be a hero in spite of it. If you meant that he had every reason to, then yeah I agree.

Yuh I mean that with all he's gone through he had perfect reasons to go full villain mode but didnt

 

[1000TonsofFun]

I mean he has to turn into like superman after this for me to have an ounce of respect for his character

In that case, he might grow on you

Yuh I mean that with all he's gone through he had perfect reasons to go full villain mode but didnt

Oh yeah, definitely agree then

 

[JoeDM021]

dead ass once saw someone say FW deku vs the 12 moons were a close fight

I think they were trolling or ragebaiting cuz no one some1 acc believes that unless they are glazing kny and downplaying mha

 

[1000TonsofFun]

dead ass once saw someone say FW deku vs the 12 moons were a close fight

I think they were trolling or ragebaiting cuz no one some1 acc believes that unless they are glazing kny and downplaying mha

Muzan after getting hit by one 45% smash:

 

[BiggestOpp]

dead ass once saw someone say FW deku vs the 12 moons were a close fight

I think they were trolling or ragebaiting cuz no one some1 acc believes that unless they are glazing kny and downplaying mha

Reddit don’t think he’s above Mach 10

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

I am on S2 Ep10

Can someone please tell me if this thing gets better?? Does Deku ever beat Shoto and Bakugo up for being little jerks with basically no morals?? Because Shoto especially PISSES ME OFF. I can't watch anymore if the show is gonna keep glazing him

How is Shoto pissing you off specifically and not Bakugo

 

[Metalballrun]

It’s hard to tell whether it’s autism or just due to his lack of a social life.

Autistic-coded just means he has those traits or experiences enough to be identifiable or even relatable while not necessarily being confirmed to be autistic in canon.
There's a degree of subjectivity for coded characters here especially if it's not intended by the author so it's mostly fan interpretation. It could be objective when a character is meant to be autistic or gay but due to censorship they aren't confirmed to be so they're just coded to get the message across.

dead ass once saw someone say FW deku vs the 12 moons were a close fight

I think they were trolling or ragebaiting cuz no one some1 acc believes that unless they are glazing kny and downplaying mha

It gets worse when you find out a lot of MHA fans on reddit thinks Deku is Prime All Might level at the start. So they're saying the 12 Moons are on that level.

But generally this happens because MHA redditors are humongous ******* who are only capable of infighting within the fandom but they cower when an MHA character has to fight someone from a different verse.

The exception is places like MHAPowerscaling but they're even more extreme compared to VSBW in terms of highball and wank as far as I know. They have MFTL+ Bakugo calcs.

 

[JoeDM021]

But generally this happens because MHA redditors are humongous ******* who are only capable of infighting within the fandom but they cower when an MHA character has to fight someone from a different verse.

The exception is places like MHAPowerscaling but they're even more extreme compared to VSBW in terms of highball and wank as far as I know. They have MFTL+ Bakugo calcs.

MHAPowerscaling?

gng that place is infamous for downplaying its own verse

 

[Metalballrun]

Wouldn't know for sure I don't really visit the place but there's probably an overlap

 

[Metalballrun]

Powerscaling might be the sub with actual MHA wank.
The Deathbattle subs are the ones with the closest "ambience" to this forum, almost even too openminded due to how Deathbattle inflates things.

 

[MochOath]

r/powerscaling is just r/jjkpowerscaling in a mustache

 

[BiggestOpp]

Mhapowerscaling thinks Deku was using second gear against Shigaraki

 

[JoeDM021]

Wouldn't know for sure I don't really visit the place but there's probably an overlap

no trust me ive been there and seen posts on it and 90% of it is downplay but theres probably like 1 or 2 glazers there i havent seen but eh

 

[ShionAH]

How I feel after watching Episode 16 and seeing Shoto lowkey cook

 

[1000TonsofFun]

Mhapowerscaling thinks Deku was using second gear against Shigaraki

Which fight? I’m pretty sure they’re wrong either way, but I want to try and understand their logic.

 

[BiggestOpp]

Which fight? I’m pretty sure they’re wrong either way, but I want to try and understand their logic.

2nd fight where Shigaraki “adapted” to Deku’s gearshift and stole danger sense.
The belief is Deku was using 2nd gear in order the reduce the recoil he’ll have afterwards.
A way to argue Deku is still a speed blitz over Shiggy.
Deku literally says it’s his final gearshift and he’s not gonna hold anything back

 

[JoeDM021]

2nd fight where Shigaraki “adapted” to Deku’s gearshift and stole danger sense.
The belief is Deku was using 2nd gear in order the reduce the recoil he’ll have afterwards.
A way to argue Deku is still a speed blitz over Shiggy.
Deku literally says it’s his final gearshift and he’s not gonna hold anything back

deku atp is bleeding and tired so honestly im not surprised he didnt blitz cuz atp he was gassing out with gshift

 

[Gitagon]

Mhapowerscaling thinks Deku was using second gear against Shigaraki

That was like one guy who thought that.

 

[BiggestOpp]

deku atp is bleeding and tired so honestly im not surprised he didnt blitz cuz atp he was gassing out with gshift

Which is fine to think (though I don’t think it’ll affect someone like Deku much) but to say he’s using 2nd gear is bullshit

That was like one guy who thought that.

I’ve seen 4 different people say it and that’s just with me lurking the sub. Upvotes also speaks to who agrees with it

 

[1000TonsofFun]

How I feel after watching Episode 16 and seeing Shoto lowkey cook

I fell this is a few people’s thoughts on Shoto. I remember not liking him much at first as well, although I think hearing his backstory made me like him more. But he quickly got more likeable as a person as he progressed from trying to spite his father to simply being the hero he wants to be.

 

[Metalballrun]

Shoto and Iida rubbed off some viewers at first.

 

[1000TonsofFun]

Shoto and Iida rubbed off some viewers at first.

Makes sense, they are supposed to be viewed more antagonistically upon introduction. The series has a common thread about judging people too soon (Shigaraki being the one who sticks out in my mind, being initially seen as just a whiny spoiled brat henchman before we learn of the hardships of his life. All Might in chapter 1 is similar, as we view him initially as this unbreakable symbol of peace, before we learn of his own fear and depression).

 

[ShionAH]

Stain was an amazing villian and Endeavour is kinda goated to watch, I like that he is clearly still a REALLY great hero despite his... messed up acts

 

[MANOFGOD7]

The series has a common thread about judging people too soon

Pretty much the reason why there's a saying that "Don't judge a book by it's cover"

MHA embodies that saying well for almost all its characters, with a clear exception of Deku ofc.

 

[ShionAH]

Alright here is a fun question to the MHA fans here

How would you use Shigaraki's Decay Quirk as a Hero if you were born in the universe with it? Is it even possible? You would kinda kill the villians which is not a good idea for a Hero

 

[Ghengiroo115]

Alright here is a fun question to the MHA fans here

How would you use Shigaraki's Decay Quirk as a Hero if you were born in the universe with it? Is it even possible? You would kinda kill the villians which is not a good idea for a Hero

I’d use it mainly as a supportive and defensive ability. Destroying a villain’s support tool or weapon, saving people stuck in collapsed buildings, breaking down a locked door at a villain’s base, stuff like that.

It’s not the most reliable Quirk for a hero since there are cases where it’s basically useless, but there are other cases where it would still be powerful.

 

[JoeDM021]

Alright here is a fun question to the MHA fans here

How would you use Shigaraki's Decay Quirk as a Hero if you were born in the universe with it? Is it even possible? You would kinda kill the villians which is not a good idea for a Hero

Basically what ghengiroo said with the inclusion if the villain we are facing is EXTREMELY heartless and irredeemable.. then i'd be willing to use it against a person

 

[Mommyleona]

How would you use Shigaraki's Decay Quirk as a Hero if you were born in the universe with it? Is it even possible? You would kinda kill the villians which is not a good idea for a Hero

Use it on the limbs. Make them limbless.

 

[RidleyX]

MHAPowerscaling subreddit is like the special ed class of powerscaling subreddits

 

[1000TonsofFun]

Pretty much the reason why there's a saying that "Don't judge a book by it's cover"

MHA embodies that saying well for almost all its characters, with a clear exception of Deku ofc.

Even Deku has more than meets the eye with him. There’s a competitive side to him that he gets from Bakugo that is unexpected from his usual behaviour.

Spoiler: ShionAH big big spoilers don’t read

His overlay/dark hero forms use this theme as well via contrasting against Deku’s caring and self-sacrificial nature (inherently heroic) vs his darker and more jagged design (which are both acknowledged as scary in verse and based off of Carnage, a maniacal villain, for his Dark and overlay forms respectively). He’s perhaps the truest example of a hero in the series yet his appearance and fighting style often contradict the stereotypical ideas of heroism.

Stain was an amazing villian and Endeavour is kinda goated to watch, I like that he is clearly still a REALLY great hero despite his... messed up acts

Yeah, Endeavour is a fun character to watch due to the dichotomy between his effectiveness as a hero and his failures as a father/husband. Stain is great because of his convictions obviously but as you will see, his actions have an effect on several other characters and kickstarts many of their character arcs.