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A Wild Last Historian Appeared ! (KLEIN MORETTI VS RUPHAS MAFAHL | 9 - 2 - 0)
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Thunderman101
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king of the atoms fra (scp atoms scale higher smh smh)
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So if I'm getting this correctly, Klein's MM3 functions not by directly looking at him or him just passively/thought-based causing you to go mad, but rather by NOT inherently understanding his true nature as it is limited to perception, and to merely grasp his true nature, you'd have to transcend individuality and dualism as a whole. Is that correct? @SuperNova55555
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how does this stop ruphas gaining a personal resistance exactly
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I was asking for clarification, not arguing who wins.
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Leaning more towards Klein from what was said
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Open RE page and quote me last lines of page before I go "Negative Tracking"
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Here I thought you wereEither way, I'm guessing the argument is some manner of turning her greatest asset in not needing to comprehend things/go at stuff in a simple manner (punching shit away) into something that's bad for her
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You still gotta answer for that 'always on switch' analogy I told you about
Edit: P.S, that same analogy already covered what you brought up before off-site if you forgot before now, lol
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anyway, after some further clarification, yeah add my vote for klein
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Yea. In fact, so goes for pretty much all mysticism stuff. This is affirmed multiple times even. If you’ve heard of H1A+ LoTM, this is a type of reasoning which is going to be related to it; but it not being accepted currently for AP doesn’t prevent if from being used in stuff like this.
Also. Where is all this Klein glaze coming from?
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I vote for Zhou Mingrui.
Ngl, seeing their haxs getting boosted make me want to create YTSY protags against Klein or Ruphas.
Ngl, seeing their haxs getting boosted make me want to create YTSY protags against Klein or Ruphas.
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Such thing is possible only if they have Tier 0 Atoms
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Bro doesn’t know YTSY will get nodiffed by lotm atoms soon 
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Alright here's my question, is there smurf in play or not? Bc to my understanding to this nonsense, it still doesn't dictate how every verse, like awlba, works, because they overlay their own aspects. In other words they are not determined by the function i am being told, but their very own rules. Try and limit their ascending and they will just overlay an entirely new definition of infinity.
Not only that but said this stuff still doesn't include the plot aspect. So it's not stopping the passive from taking place, and gaining auto resistances. That individuality is cool and all, but again, please provide proof it extends to literally infinitely many more fundamental aspects which Ruphas can adapt to. Otherwise we are just NLFing it to say it bypasses any transcendence automatically no matter what. Which is, QUITE LITERALLY, more NLF based than anything I've ever said, and certainly NOT how this site works if this ISNT smurf.
All I'm seeing is glaze followed by "Bluey do not respond with ruphas wins because she wins." "Oh my god LOTM atoms AARRGHHH!!!" as if that's not just ignoring the entire purpose of her ability. You could be AC5, PCP, it's still NOT WORKING if the setting, which is infinitely many more layers above what you're working with (or just layers in general), enforces it's OWN RULES onto them. "The mm3 is more fundamental-" okay, then you need to have the plot aspect to get around their hax. You need to have more fundamental hax to bypass settings, thus everything about their being including mm3 haxing them.
Matter fact let's just be boring. Plot hax, and more plot hax. And please, PLEASE say plot hax is "just flavored fate hax". Bc that opinion doesn't matter, we have standards for a reason. If it's separate, then it's separate and treated as such. It helps them be stronger, edits their character building to be unaffected by anything including madness, edits all of reality. It makes their passives hit first to klein gets instantly killed, nullified, etc.
Not only that but said this stuff still doesn't include the plot aspect. So it's not stopping the passive from taking place, and gaining auto resistances. That individuality is cool and all, but again, please provide proof it extends to literally infinitely many more fundamental aspects which Ruphas can adapt to. Otherwise we are just NLFing it to say it bypasses any transcendence automatically no matter what. Which is, QUITE LITERALLY, more NLF based than anything I've ever said, and certainly NOT how this site works if this ISNT smurf.
All I'm seeing is glaze followed by "Bluey do not respond with ruphas wins because she wins." "Oh my god LOTM atoms AARRGHHH!!!" as if that's not just ignoring the entire purpose of her ability. You could be AC5, PCP, it's still NOT WORKING if the setting, which is infinitely many more layers above what you're working with (or just layers in general), enforces it's OWN RULES onto them. "The mm3 is more fundamental-" okay, then you need to have the plot aspect to get around their hax. You need to have more fundamental hax to bypass settings, thus everything about their being including mm3 haxing them.
Matter fact let's just be boring. Plot hax, and more plot hax. And please, PLEASE say plot hax is "just flavored fate hax". Bc that opinion doesn't matter, we have standards for a reason. If it's separate, then it's separate and treated as such. It helps them be stronger, edits their character building to be unaffected by anything including madness, edits all of reality. It makes their passives hit first to klein gets instantly killed, nullified, etc.
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Character: Can resist MM3 derived from 4-dimensional complexity
Bluey: So they can resist MM3 derived from 5-dimensional complexity?
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beyond t0 feat
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I mean, "dimensional complexity" or "being dimensionless" doesn't matter here. But naturally, if a character can RE up dimensions, including the 4th, or the 5th, beyond infinitely, why the HELL would they go mad from the "complexity" of the 6th, if they can reach the infinite. That makes...absolutely no sense? Especially since they forcefully re-apply, concepts of dimensions, size, space-time, etc anyway.
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You can't be serious with this comment bro
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MM3 derived from 4th Dimensional complexity (resisted) -> 5th dimensional complexity -> Character can go up to infinite dimensional complexity. Gets mm3 haxed by the...5th dimensional complexity.
Guess I'm not seriously serious enough with that one tho, oops!
Guess I'm not seriously serious enough with that one tho, oops!
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Bro took an analogy and strawmanned it into an argument that still implicitly creates a false equivalence.
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Yooo funni man. Anyway:
After viewing more on it this match it is very much a stomp. The madness is caused by corruption of looking at anything related to the OC. The corrupting comes from the spirit of the OC, which infests and corrupts the things and beings it comes in touch with to further awaken the OC (not literal touch obv)
It corrupts the body, mind and spirit, concept (bc of the symbolism), and the symbolism of the pathway corruption would be causing the madness.
You can call it madness "just looking into the OC's mind" but that's still a smurf. Especially when said OC is the symbol that governs everything and is chaos and madness itself at that level.
Naturally overlaying defenses, mental resistances, and layers won't work when this is coming from a high 1A being as a source (assuming this comes from high 1A key, im sure it does. If it's 1A they ascend that OC key, it gets resisted by their ability, more fundamental aspects. Concept, plot, fate, mind, soul, info, etc, and they can default view incomprehensible stuff anyway. All while adapting faster than being in any presence). But ur literally being infected by a high 1A being. Lamest match oat under the guise of trying to be funny. I hope verse profiles get revised to make that more clear in the future on a serious note
The ragebait WAS successful tho, congrats guys..
After viewing more on it this match it is very much a stomp. The madness is caused by corruption of looking at anything related to the OC. The corrupting comes from the spirit of the OC, which infests and corrupts the things and beings it comes in touch with to further awaken the OC (not literal touch obv)
It corrupts the body, mind and spirit, concept (bc of the symbolism), and the symbolism of the pathway corruption would be causing the madness.
You can call it madness "just looking into the OC's mind" but that's still a smurf. Especially when said OC is the symbol that governs everything and is chaos and madness itself at that level.
Naturally overlaying defenses, mental resistances, and layers won't work when this is coming from a high 1A being as a source (assuming this comes from high 1A key, im sure it does. If it's 1A they ascend that OC key, it gets resisted by their ability, more fundamental aspects. Concept, plot, fate, mind, soul, info, etc, and they can default view incomprehensible stuff anyway. All while adapting faster than being in any presence). But ur literally being infected by a high 1A being. Lamest match oat under the guise of trying to be funny. I hope verse profiles get revised to make that more clear in the future on a serious note
The ragebait WAS successful tho, congrats guys..
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And what do you think that "spirit" is? Can't possibly be the mental mark in the subconscious of all beings no? It is corrosive in that it is incompatible, since at that level there is varying degrees of unification with Symbolism. They look at spirituality (since all beings have a unified mind), which therein causes them to fragment it (since they can't perceive it) and therein are corrupted by it. It is looking at a mind and getting corrupted by such a mind. There's a reason it doesn't say some shit like "information" or whatever.
^ Their minds literally get upgraded as they attain Godhood. Something all of AWLBA lacks.
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Just to reiterate to make it clear, corruption is a metaphor for the prospect of incompatibility within the varying minds. Since not only do minds/spirits attain differing instincts (marks) depending on the symbols they experience, but they also exist at a different level of intellection. This is the entire reason for the acting principle as well, since humans are naturally incompatible with the particular spirit existing in their beyonder characteristics, so they emulate that to harmonize and "trick" it per se.
If it was merely corruption, there'd be no need to perceive it. But spirit is mind. So the only way to interact with it is vis-a-vis mental faculties, which is why OCs corrosion exists at the level of the sea of collective subconscious, since all beings unify mentally at some point. This is how it is possible for you to "look at a mind" per se. But naturally, this spirituality cannot be perceived, thus is incompatible, and thus is damaging to you. So the only way to perceive it becomes literal reversion and unification into the Universe/OC, which then can lead to the attainment of Godhood as shown in the comment above, which quite literally gives beings new intellectual capabilities.
AWLBA simply cannot do this, and thus are annihilated from within the deepest part of their very mind. That's all.
The information stuff and whatnot is simply talking about knowledge at a higher level, which normal beings are intrinsically incapable of perceiving, which is why it might be analogized as information sometimes, yet remains explicitly differentiated as "symbols" or whatnot.
If it was merely corruption, there'd be no need to perceive it. But spirit is mind. So the only way to interact with it is vis-a-vis mental faculties, which is why OCs corrosion exists at the level of the sea of collective subconscious, since all beings unify mentally at some point. This is how it is possible for you to "look at a mind" per se. But naturally, this spirituality cannot be perceived, thus is incompatible, and thus is damaging to you. So the only way to perceive it becomes literal reversion and unification into the Universe/OC, which then can lead to the attainment of Godhood as shown in the comment above, which quite literally gives beings new intellectual capabilities.
AWLBA simply cannot do this, and thus are annihilated from within the deepest part of their very mind. That's all.
The information stuff and whatnot is simply talking about knowledge at a higher level, which normal beings are intrinsically incapable of perceiving, which is why it might be analogized as information sometimes, yet remains explicitly differentiated as "symbols" or whatnot.
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As known, AWLBA is widely a bum verse, and the only good thing about Ruphas is her rival Alevnous.
Jokes aside, yeah voting for Klein to end this, the match was doomed from start, respect Bluey fro trying his best though.
Jokes aside, yeah voting for Klein to end this, the match was doomed from start, respect Bluey fro trying his best though.
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My glorious foolish king humbles the verse, next question
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I was asked to close this thread for being a stomp, so closing.
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