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Mr Incredible Vs The Homelander

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Mr Incredible Vs Homelander


  • Battle takes place in a 90m Skyscraper
  • Mr Incredible has prior knowledge of Homelander's lasers vision
  • Both start 10 meters apart In a hotel hallway
  • Combat Speed is equalized
  • Bob is High 8-C, Homey is 8-B


Will the real heroes win.... or the imposters lose
 
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YES

Y E S

My man Bob has actual experience, skill and slightly outsmarts John. Bob also has superior LS and Shockwave
I'm leaning HEAVILY on Mr. Incredible taking this Mid-Low diff
 
YES

Y E S

My man Bob has actual experience, skill and slightly outsmarts John. Bob also has superior LS and Shockwave
I'm leaning HEAVILY on Mr. Incredible taking this Mid-Low diff
John flies tho, I believe Bob has higher reaction speeds so he should be able to react to John's laser vision for some time. Id also like to point out Homie isn't affected whatsoever by his value and upscales decently above multiple people in his chain scale being the strongest, so Its gonna take alot and quite some time for Bob to make a dent in Homie. Homie again, also flies, his mobility is much higher and will be able to catch up to and dodge projectiles from Bob pretty easily. I doubt he'd be able to pull of LS strats on Homie when Homie can easily laser vision through him, his projectiles and Bob's physical body
 
YES

Y E S

My man Bob has actual experience, skill and slightly outsmarts John. Bob also has superior LS and Shockwave
I'm leaning HEAVILY on Mr. Incredible taking this Mid-Low diff
Id like you to contexualize. Bob hasn't fought and opponent with True Flight iirc. His skill is usually against other land based heroes/villains and mostly CQC/Combat experience and overall fighting style. Outsmarting John means nothing to a couple punches above 2x his Durability, and Laser vision. He also can't hide from Homie due to X ray Vision and Enhanced Senses. Bob will likely get hunted down, Honed down with flight and laser'd. His shockwaves dont mean anything to Homie's durability.
 
Id like you to contexualize
Syndrome flies, for starters, so he has seen at least one villain that flies

He was a supe for years, more than John 100%, so the possibility that he faced more than just Omnidroid as opposing force who outstat him is also very huge

Shockwave via Thunderclap is a very intuitive way to try getting a flying opposing force to the ground, by disrupting their fly, and...
Physical: [...] Loud noises can mess with his super-hearing. (John's Weakness Section)
...It is absurdly likely for Bob, who is absurdly well known to develop s* up in the fly in all of his fights, to get a countermeasurement for his flying very easily.
(Speaking of the weakness section, Mr. Incredible is a god of one-liners, so the psychological weakness John has is 100% going to be a thing for Bob's strategization near the end of the fight)

Outsmarting John means nothing to a couple punches above 2x his Durability, and Laser vision.
Omnidroid also did outstat a weaker unprepared Bob and he still defeated it, even though the robot was made to kill him

Later versions got closer to killing him and also failed, and John is not outsmarting a f*ing supe-killing adapt-to-all robot

He also can't hide from Homie due to X ray Vision and Enhanced Senses.
He did hide from robots with thermovision with ease though, so John'd have to focus his hearing Joel-Miller-style to get Bob if he hides, which would be a problem since his hearing get compromised by anything thrown and/or thunderclaps

Honed down with flight and laser'd.
The main problem with this line of thought is because anything that hits John gets him cooked, since the gap between their LS is of one tier, too much even though John likely upscales from the indexed calc
And what doesn't hit him, makes noise, making John's weakness proc and Bob can very easily spam thunderclaps to f* him up
 
Bob pretty decently upscales from his value. He literally 2-shot knocked a person who bullied him literally seconds prior. So those punches if it comes down to that, will freaking hurt. Will Homelander ever get close? Hell no, not by his style very much.
Leaning Incredible due to skill however.
 
It doesn't help that Bob's suit is, like, very heat resistant.

Voting Mr. Incredible FRA.
Are you all trolling or ragebaiting me? Homelander is far above 3x his value with Heat

Ignore that he is also WAY stronger being above 2x.

What the **** is happening here?? This GOTTA be a rule violation
 
Well, i went quite deeply onto why he can out-strategize John today
I think you overastimate the loud noises, specific tunes that were engineered to harm Homelander was only a minor annoyance that he brushed off and destroyed

X Ray Vision >>>>>>>>>>>> Anything else you mentioned, so no he can't hide. Especially when John can hear his heart.

Skill is enough when your opponent is a robot you can pick apart and use as a weapon, plus he fought the OmniDroid made for Frozone not himself I believe. So not like it was engineered to kill him, John on the other hand was winning a 1v2 against two veterans with combat training so he is no fool either
 
Syndrome flies, for starters, so he has seen at least one villain that flies
No correlation. Homelander has superior mobility with his flight ability than Syndrome anyways. They're not comparable.

He was a supe for years, more than John 100%, so the possibility that he faced more than just Omnidroid as opposing force who outstat him is also very huge
Experience doesn't help against John here. John may be less skilled but evens out that field massively with significantly more abilities than the one trick ponies Bob has combatted for years

Shockwave via Thunderclap is a very intuitive way to try getting a flying opposing force to the ground, by disrupting their fly, and...
He'd have to figure out Homelander's weakness to sound and even then, he can still resist sound waves to an extent as seen when he and Ryan were blasted with them from miles away. He can also fly away or simply home in on Bob to stop him from creating shockwaves. Or just heat vision lowk. Homelander would simply power through his attempts to use heavy frequencies to disable him, this is seen multiple times in The Boys.

He did hide from robots with thermovision with ease though, so John'd have to focus his hearing Joel-Miller-style to get Bob if he hides, which would be a problem since his hearing get compromised by anything thrown and/or thunderclaps
Means nothing. His stealth mastery doesn't help when Homelander has not one, but 3/4 different types of senses working with him, especially X ray damn vision to see through walls. His eye sight and hearing and overall senses are superior to those bots.
He'd see, hear and even smell Bob no matter where he goes within the building and home him out with his laser vision since he doesn't have to get close.
Can't hide from, The Homelander, and Bob sure as hell can't.

The main problem with this line of thought is because anything that hits John gets him cooked, since the gap between their LS is of one tier, too much even though John likely upscales from the indexed calc
And what doesn't hit him, makes noise, making John's weakness proc and Bob can very easily spam thunderclaps to f* him up
John has higher durability than Bob's AP lmao. They are not even. He will be fine, but he cam be restrained, and even then, Homelander can force Bob to let him go by ramming him through walls shakimg him off via flight. Using sound waves against Homelander only irritates and temporarily incacipates him. In no way does it stop him from fighting back, moving or using his abilities such as flight, infact it will push him to use them.

How I see it'll go if he tries;

  • Bob figures out John's weakness.
  • He starts spamming thunderclaps to disable John
  • John gets very angry and either; Flies and Homes down Mr Incredibles slamming him into walls to stop him or angrily fires his heat vision in hopes of stopping him, in that scenario, Bob dies because the Heat And AP cuts through him like butter. Voting John
 
Bob pretty decently upscales from his value. He literally 2-shot knocked a person who bullied him literally seconds prior. So those punches if it comes down to that, will freaking hurt. Will Homelander ever get close? Hell no, not by his style very much.
Leaning Incredible due to skill however.
Homelander face tanked his value unphased, an 8-B 20 ton explosion 2-3x Mr Incredible's value, he is also stronger than Soldier Boy, Maeve, Comp V Butcher who all scale to him and can hurt him. Strong enough to outstrength them with ease 1 on 1. Gets even stronger through rage. Homelander does engage in CQC, and uses heat vision interchangebly mid combat. It doesn't matter what he does, he's still fighting Bob with a AP advantage and laser vision that kills him once its deployed once
 
No correlation
The correlation exists, actually
Since nothing changes the fact he has dealt with flying fellas before and if he tries to fly directly to Bob he'll just get beaten due to the LS gap

Experience doesn't help against John here. John may be less skilled but evens out that field massively with significantly more abilities than the one trick ponies Bob has combatted for years
John may have many tricks up his sleeve, but Bob is years more experient and we don't know every single guy he fought
Not only that, but John has shown that he is not the most strategical user of his powers, many many times relying solely on one or 2 of his powers iirc, so calling John predictable isn't farfetched

He'd have to figure out Homelander's weakness to sound
I brought up 2 possible scenarios on how that would go, either by throwing s* and noticing it or by using thunderclaps and noticing it

he can still resist sound waves to an extent as seen when he and Ryan were blasted with them from miles away.
Sound's potency diminishes heavily with increased distance, and John's problem is that Bob is close to him, so this argument ain't much, sorry.

He can also fly away
Self-BFR?
That'd make the lasers easier to predict which can make debris for bob to use

or simply home in on Bob to stop him from creating shockwaves.
As i've said, if John home-in's Bob can exert LS and just stop John on his tracks, subsequentially throwing him on the floor or beating his head on it or something alike

Or just heat vision lowk.
Bob has dealt with heat vision and even had a friend who used it, so it is not unimaginable to say he'd be able to deal with John's attempt to laser him to death
Specially considering John, again, not being the beeeeeeest user of his powers to ever exist

Homelander would simply power through his attempts to use heavy frequencies to disable him, this is seen multiple times in The Boys.
Bob may seem resourceless but he actually can do a lot and his experience(s) would help him simply getting through John's attempts to "power through his attempts of taking him down"

Means nothing.
I don't see Stealth ending up being a thing in this battle since they are in a skyscraper anyway so it means as much as it matters, honestly

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Homelander can force Bob to let him go by ramming him through walls shakimg him off via flight.
The LS gap between them is of one tier, since they upscale heavily from the indexed values... So John can't fly if he's restrained, 100%.

Using sound waves against Homelander only irritates and temporarily incacipates him.
John being psychologically weak is also something that won't escape Bob's experienced eyes, mate!
If it ever gives him an opportunity against John, Bob will use it and his LS will help John get GGd

How I see it'll go if he tries;

  • Bob figures out John's weakness.
  • He starts spamming thunderclaps to disable John
  • John gets very angry and either; Flies and Homes down Mr Incredibles slamming him into walls to stop him or angrily fires his heat vision in hopes of stopping him, in that scenario, Bob dies because the Heat And AP cuts through him like butter. Voting John
  • He can do more than just spamming Thunderclaps as he knows just trying the same thing can give his opponent an opportunity to counter and Bob haven't forgotten he's in the top of a skyscraper lol;
  • As i've said before, Homing-in doesn't work because of the large LS gap
  • John's never used heat vision in an unpredictable way, basically, so he won't be "just cutting" Bob ever lol
John does not have what it takes to win against Robert "Mr. Incredible" Parr, i guarantee ya
 
While I agree that Homie being stronger and having those 3500 C heat lasers would pose a challenge to Bob, Homelander's genuinely such a chud when it comes to fighting that Mr. Incredible probably takes this purely off of having actual skill and experience.

Also, should I remind everybody that Bob singlehandedly took down a threat with a decent AP and Dura advantage over him, who could analyze and adapt to his every move, all while he was still greatly out of shape? Can I remind you guys that Bob has direct experience with lasers above his own AP that are faster than himself? What I'm getting at here is that everything Homelander has is something Mr. Incredible is already used to and has already countered in some way.

In short, Bob FRA
 
Never getting the Homelander beef on this wiki ngl
Anyway, Bob scales to 8.9758 tons, while Homelander HEAVILY upscales from 20.56 tons of TNT + >>>>3,500°C heat vision

Homelander FRA
 
Homelander is far above 3x his value with Heat
My bad.

I still think Bob is stupidly OP in hand to hand, though John would have the advantage at a range. Then again, he would have to find out how stupidly outmatched he is to warrant such caution.

I’m changing my vote to inconclusive.

Okay but these votes can't be serious, its clear spite against Homelander who's going through it already if you peek his profile and the threads themselves.
I’ll admit I don’t like Homelander, or the Boys, but that’s not informing who I vote for.
 
Ngl, heat vision pretty much beats Bob everytime. If he tries to go hand-to-hand or use his LS advantage, Homelander can just spams his lasers and kill him.
I vote for Homelander
 
i would just LOVE if anyone at least attempted answering me like OP did instead of just saying "John wins because laser go boom"
 
i would just LOVE if anyone at least attempted answering me like OP did instead of just saying "John wins because laser go boom"
Lasers tend to do that when they are way over 3.5x hotter than Incredibles SUIT can withstand. He himself probably cannot even go there. Difference between 1000C and 3500C is INSANE. It would MELT him even ignoring the 2x AP advantage helping out
 
Lasers tend to do that when they are way over 3.5x hotter than Incredibles SUIT can withstand.
If John's laser ever ends up hitting, that is
I and @IDK3465 went deep on why this ain't happening

even ignoring the 2x AP advantage helping out
Which he won't be able to exert because of the LS advantage, Bob abusing his sound weakness and sheer experience gap too
 
Arguments for bob in this thread are lowkey buns as hell. Like hella buns. Like uber buns. Like i can get behind Bob somehow winning but these arguments aint it.

Why are we arguing syndrome uses his flight like homelander at all and that translates to Bob being able to deal with it? The mf is notoriously grounded the entire time in his first confrontation with Bob, and the one time Bob deals with syndrome while he's actually flying the guy fking dies 2 seconds later. (And even then, Helen was mostly the one who dealt with him...) That ain't experience against flying opponents man.

Why are we arguing Bob's shockwaves would do anything to John? John can generate his own shockwaves when flying and they don't hurt his hearing. Clearly it's not just any vaguely loud sounds do him under.

Why are we arguing that Bob is nimble enough to go untouched from John's heat vision the entire fight? That's just lowkey kinda dumb. Just in general. We aint dealing with a Warhammer 40k Skillslop character here with Bob, not to discredit the guy but Bob can still get reasonably tagged even if he's skilled in dodging, which is an issue when he honestly needs to be going untouched from the heat vision.
 
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If John's laser ever ends up hitting, that is
I and @IDK3465 went deep on why this ain't happening
And I disagree with it, the skill gap is there but it isn't enough to stop John from looking at him and winning. Literally one mistake and its over, Bob is good at fighting sure but is he good enough to consistently dodge a super fast beam faster than him that can follow him??
Bob abusing his sound weakness and sheer experience gap too
You keep overastimating this sound weakness, there isn't even enough proof if the shockwaves Bob creates would be loud enough. Like what?? This is also ignoring Homelander specifically is pretty resistant to sound we are talking about. Like @Comiphorous he HIMSELF creates a bunch of shockwaves with no problem



It hurts him but he can easily power through it, even after getting way closer later on.

And the experience gap isn't enough to stop a one shot beam from melting Bob's ass
 
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